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December 11, 2010, 12:27:37 PM
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http://www.crowdleak.org/

I thought this was worth supporting . Its a project where everyone donates part of their hard drive which stores parts of leaked documents rather than having one central server or site. They are in fundraising mode so I sent them a message to see if they would add a bitcoin donation address.

It could be an excellent distributed version of wikileaks without the politics. Might be a good thing for bitcoin to get on the ground floor of it where it can have the most impact.
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December 11, 2010, 12:38:15 PM
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Are they going to use Tahoe-LAFS for that?
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December 11, 2010, 01:08:22 PM
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Do they really need to reinvent the wheel? Could they not set it up under something like the "Osiris Serverless Portal"? See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris_(Serverless_Portal_System)

NB: I have never used it, I am just aware of its existance.

ISTM the reason this does not already exist is not due to the absence of the necessary P2P and anonymizing technologies, but rather only needs that "killer" reason for wide spread adoption. 
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December 14, 2010, 04:14:31 AM
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Regarding Crowdleaks, I think this idea is flawed from the start.

One thing Wikileaks does that Crowdleaks cannot is assess the value or credibility of submissions.  This sounds like the sort of thing that will be filled with "leaks" about Viagra, diplomas, "OEM" software, and Nigerian fortunes.  Who'd want to host that?

Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable.  I never believe them.  If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins.  I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion.  Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice.  Don't keep coins online. Use paper wallets instead.
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December 14, 2010, 07:24:31 AM
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Regarding Crowdleaks, I think this idea is flawed from the start.

One thing Wikileaks does that Crowdleaks cannot is assess the value or credibility of submissions.  This sounds like the sort of thing that will be filled with "leaks" about Viagra, diplomas, "OEM" software, and Nigerian fortunes.  Who'd want to host that?

I think the Osiris reputation system solve the issue

Reputations system

The Reputations system and the subsequent generation of multiple points of view of a portal is one of the most innovative aspects of the program. Unlike "traditional" systems where the computational work (calculation of statistics, indexing of content, etc ...) is always made by a central server, Osiris use a distributed approach, where the majority of the works is made by users of a portal, due to this there may be more distinct points of view of a portal, depending on used account.

Each user is free to give reputation (positive or negative) to another user according to its contribution to the portal, based on these reputations, the system processes the pages by removing the contents of users evaluated negatively (such as spammers) and importing the reputations of users considered positively. This allow the creation of a network of assessments that allows management of a portal. Note that each client processes the data independently on its machine in a process that is called stabilization of the portal.
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December 14, 2010, 10:56:39 AM
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Checking the FAQs on both sites show crowdleaks is a honeycomb hideout with no queen, and Osiris is a distributed, open-hive forum. Crowdleaks could become data-cumbersome as a distributed document anonymizer, requiring instant wide adoption with journalists and their ilk. Osiris is more geared towards wild-west justice of the peace. Submit to the hive!
The 2 ideas could work together as a clearinghouse if the left-leaning idealists or right-wing realists never exceed 50% of the hive. Good luck with that. Rugby scrums have nothing on current extreme leanings of the press.

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