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December 11, 2010, 06:15:03 PM
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i wonder how can i prove that i made transfer to somebody? the reciver may claim that he/she didn't get anything from me. is there any technical possibility to prove it?
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December 11, 2010, 07:04:16 PM
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Yes. Use the Bitcoin Block Explorer (BBE). Search the forums for the URL and its use. Smiley
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December 11, 2010, 07:37:51 PM
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This might be of use to you as well -- ClearCoin escrow:
  http://clearcoin.appspot.com/

The first 100 BTC of each transaction is free, with the escrow fee at 1% for anything over that.

So to protect yourself when sending, you can put the amount you are sending in escrow and then immediately release it.  The result is a publicly visible record that N Bitcoin were sent to XXXX...XXXX address on a date that could have been one of three different values (depending on whether the escrow expiration was 1 months, 6 months or 12 months out.). 

Here's an example of a completed transaction that occurred on Dec 7, 2010:
   https://clearcoin.appspot.com/status/r_T89JAvkdiuTHbWCHCKyFTF

That, along with the instruction from the recipient showing what Bitcoin address you were supposed to send payment to, ... and you end up with a pretty convincing argument that the funds were truly sent.

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December 11, 2010, 08:12:33 PM
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Yes, it's pretty easy to prove you actually sent X coins to an Y address

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December 12, 2010, 12:31:05 AM
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i wonder how can i prove that i made transfer to somebody? the reciver may claim that he/she didn't get anything from me. is there any technical possibility to prove it?

Yes, although the current client doesn't yet do this, it would be possible to use the keypair that produced the address used to send the coins to 'sign' an electronic receipt, proving that the coins that Bitcoin Block Exployer shows went to the receiver were sent by yourself.  There are many little tidbits like this that the system allows, but that are not yet performed.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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