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September 28, 2017, 04:43:12 PM
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TMAN is misrepresenting the cost/value of what he is selling in this thread. http://archive.is/GGmei

The current high bid is .05 btc however the cost to buy it is 0.0243 btc. (Times 2, or 0.0486 - he is selling two)

This was pointed out to TMAN, however he promptly deleted this post as he has a self moderated thread.


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Top bid.. still way below store cost and these actually have some satoshi's on them!

0.05 BTC

Top bid.. still way below store cost and these actually have some satoshi's on them!

I would avoid doing business with TMAN.

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September 28, 2017, 04:56:27 PM
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This post is a bit flawed considering the items that TMAN are auctioning off are not the ones you are showing here. One of them are, the other one is a gilt version that is clearly more expensive than the regular one.

Nothing to see here other than a personal vendetta I assume? Or are you simply doing everything in your power to back up ognasty? Strange either way.

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September 28, 2017, 04:57:03 PM
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TMAN is misrepresenting the cost/value of what he is selling..
If this equals to being a scammer, more than half of the *coin manufacturers* in that section would be scammers. Just my 2 bitcent. Smiley

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September 28, 2017, 05:00:21 PM
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Your trust is so low though. Why should anyone take your word for it?
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September 28, 2017, 05:03:07 PM
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Your trust is so low though. Why should anyone take your word for it?
He's a known scammer, account farmer/trader as well as a liar. The answer to your question is just "they shouldn't".

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September 28, 2017, 05:08:01 PM
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what was the store cost 12 months ago??

the deleted post was 1st quoted by me

I was deleting posts as OG bores me... but I had quoted it for reference...

so QS I think your mum is calling for dinner

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September 28, 2017, 05:08:55 PM
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TMAN is misrepresenting the cost/value of what he is selling..
If this equals to being a scammer, more than half of the *coin manufacturers* in that section would be scammers. Just my 2 bitcent. Smiley
He is claiming the retail cost is lower than it really is.

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TMAN is misrepresenting the cost/value of what he is selling..

If this equals to being a scammer, more than half of the *coin manufacturers* in that section would be scammers. Just my 2 bitcent. Smiley

I don't think it's the misrepresenting that's the problem, mistakes happen.  The censoring of those who point it out as opposed to correcting the statement is what I'd be concerned about, especially since this user has a history of auction manipulation.

The part that really gets me though is that after attacking me for months because I made the comment, "My advice, sell 'em if you got 'em" he decides to take my advice.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2214844.0


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I was deleting posts as OG bores me... but I had quoted it for reference...

Not only did you NOT quote the post showing the current store pricing which contradicted your statement, but you didn't edit your incorrect statement either.  

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Last edit: September 28, 2017, 05:26:37 PM by TMAN
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TMAN is misrepresenting the cost/value of what he is selling..

If this equals to being a scammer, more than half of the *coin manufacturers* in that section would be scammers. Just my 2 bitcent. Smiley

I don't think it's the misrepresenting that's the problem, mistakes happen.  The censoring of those who point it out as opposed to correcting the statement is what I'd be concerned about, especially since this user has a history of auction manipulation.

The part that really gets me though is that after attacking me for months because I made the comment, "My advice, sell 'em if you got 'em" he decides to take my advice.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2214844.0

Og I quoted your post for reference then deleted your own quote...

thats the beauty of a self modded thread..

EDIT---

my error I quoted another of your posts...

but please can you tell me the store cost on the date that both coins were purchased?

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September 28, 2017, 05:32:13 PM
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This post is a bit flawed considering the items that TMAN are auctioning off are not the ones you are showing here. One of them are, the other one is a gilt version that is clearly more expensive than the regular one.
They carried a $20 preimum. TMAN is shipping from the EU and shipping from the EU to the US, along with escrow costs will result in the retail price being lower than the bid price.

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September 28, 2017, 05:53:50 PM
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This post is a bit flawed considering the items that TMAN are auctioning off are not the ones you are showing here. One of them are, the other one is a gilt version that is clearly more expensive than the regular one.
They carried a $20 preimum. TMAN is shipping from the EU and shipping from the EU to the US, along with escrow costs will result in the retail price being lower than the bid price.

Hey QS..  new ones don't have any satoshi's on them both BTC and shitcoin so that makes these much more valuable than post fork coins..

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September 28, 2017, 06:25:15 PM
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Your trust is so low though. Why should anyone take your word for it?
You literally have to believe nothing I said. Everything is backed up in the OP

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September 28, 2017, 06:39:51 PM
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Your trust is so low though. Why should anyone take your word for it?
You literally have to believe nothing I said. Everything is backed up in the OP

Hey OG what was the store price last year???

These are still cheaper than store price at the time of purchase

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September 28, 2017, 08:20:10 PM
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TMAN is misrepresenting the cost/value of what he is selling..
If this equals to being a scammer, more than half of the *coin manufacturers* in that section would be scammers. Just my 2 bitcent. Smiley
He is claiming the retail cost is lower than it really is.
Plenty of manufacturers claim that the cost to produce is much higher than it really is. Why are you not going after them?

I don't think it's the misrepresenting that's the problem, mistakes happen.  The censoring of those who point it out as opposed to correcting the statement is what I'd be concerned about, especially since this user has a history of auction manipulation.
Censoring does not make someone a scammer, also the censoring might not be related to content but to the person posting it. E.g. I will pretty much delete any Quickseller post in any of my threads, regardless of the content of said posts.

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I don't think it's the misrepresenting that's the problem, mistakes happen.  The censoring of those who point it out as opposed to correcting the statement is what I'd be concerned about, especially since this user has a history of auction manipulation.
Censoring does not make someone a scammer, also the censoring might not be related to content but to the person posting it. E.g. I will pretty much delete any Quickseller post in any of my threads, regardless of the content of said posts.

I didn't call him a scammer.  I also can understand why he deleted my posts.  I was just pointing out that even after he became aware he still chose to leave up misinformation for posterity.


Hey OG what was the store price last year???

These are still cheaper than store price at the time of purchase

I think the price has actually gone up since then, but it isn't my store so I'll admit I'm less aware of the pricing than I should be.  I can tell you I used to ask $15 for my seats that were minted to coins, now I ask $20.

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September 29, 2017, 03:55:30 AM
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You must be a really miserable bittered individual OP, always trying to attack people like this.

I don't even see how this would make anyone a scammer.

1. It is an auction. People are free to bid whatever they want.
2. He is selling 2 coins, of which 1 is graded MS-69. Graded coins always have a premium attached to them, especially MS-69 or MS-70.
3. He is including a COA, adding a little value to the package.

So I think it's safe to say that your claim that TMAN is misrepresenting the cost/value of what he is selling is nonsense. Try harder.

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September 29, 2017, 04:48:31 AM
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1. It is an auction. People are free to bid whatever they want..
In order to entice people to make higher bids, TMAN claimed the then-current high bid was lower than the retail price. This was not accurate.

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1. It is an auction. People are free to bid whatever they want..
In order to entice people to make higher bids, TMAN claimed the then-current high bid was lower than the retail price. This was not accurate.

The retail price includes grading and a gilt coin that isn't for sale any more... so I was correct

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September 29, 2017, 05:32:22 AM
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I don't think it's the misrepresenting that's the problem, mistakes happen.  The censoring of those who point it out as opposed to correcting the statement is what I'd be concerned about, especially since this user has a history of auction manipulation.
Censoring does not make someone a scammer, also the censoring might not be related to content but to the person posting it. E.g. I will pretty much delete any Quickseller post in any of my threads, regardless of the content of said posts.
I didn't call him a scammer.  I also can understand why he deleted my posts.
I was referring to what OP did, which is just biased nonsense. He just needs to go away already.

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September 29, 2017, 05:35:14 AM
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1. It is an auction. People are free to bid whatever they want..
In order to entice people to make higher bids, TMAN claimed the then-current high bid was lower than the retail price. This was not accurate.

The retail price includes grading and a gilt coin that isn't for sale any more... so I was correct
No, you described it as "store cost" which does not include grading, and the increased cost of the gilt coin would not resolve the discrepancy.

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