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June 01, 2013, 03:20:26 AM |
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I did the math and if someone is working for $8 an hour (about minimum wage in most places) for 40 hours a week, they make around $1,200 a month.
If you work 30 hours a week (ex: because you have kids other family duties) you make $900 a month
If you work 20 hours a week (ex: because you are in college, or an intern, or handicapped) you make $640 a month
If you work 10-15 hours a week (ex: a highschool student, the elderly, etc) you make around $420 a month
Some states don't allow you to apply for welfare unless you make under $200. But some states go as high as $1400. Meaning EVERYONE that works for minimum wage, 40 hours a week and down... Qualifies for welfare in at least 1 state in America.
Job creators need to pay above minimum wage.
Wal Mart CEOs and Family (The Waltons) have multibillion dollar salaries, while their employees don't make enough to stay off well fare.
Bitcoin can help, because when you trade a BTC for a dollar ABOVE value, you boost the value of the dollar around the world. And job creators can use extra money to do this, while investing in bitcoin.
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June 01, 2013, 05:08:34 AM |
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I did the math and if someone is working for $8 an hour (about minimum wage in most places) for 40 hours a week, they make around $1,200 a month.
If you work 30 hours a week (ex: because you have kids other family duties) you make $900 a month
If you work 20 hours a week (ex: because you are in college, or an intern, or handicapped) you make $640 a month
If you work 10-15 hours a week (ex: a highschool student, the elderly, etc) you make around $420 a month
Some states don't allow you to apply for welfare unless you make under $200. But some states go as high as $1400. Meaning EVERYONE that works for minimum wage, 40 hours a week and down... Qualifies for welfare in at least 1 state in America.
Job creators need to pay above minimum wage.
Wal Mart CEOs and Family (The Waltons) have multibillion dollar salaries, while their employees don't make enough to stay off well fare.
Bitcoin can help, because when you trade a BTC for a dollar ABOVE value, you boost the value of the dollar around the world. And job creators can use extra money to do this, while investing in bitcoin.
Have you considered the effect of abolishing the minimum wage? Here is a link which will help clear up some myths about minimum wage. http://blog.heritage.org/2013/03/05/busting-5-myths-about-the-minimum-wage/ |
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June 01, 2013, 05:25:24 AM |
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Forcing the Waltons to pay their employees more would just mean you'd see less WalMart associates at every WalMart.
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June 01, 2013, 05:28:58 AM |
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I did the math and if someone is working for $8 an hour (about minimum wage in most places) for 40 hours a week, they make around $1,200 a month.
If you work 30 hours a week (ex: because you have kids other family duties) you make $900 a month
If you work 20 hours a week (ex: because you are in college, or an intern, or handicapped) you make $640 a month
If you work 10-15 hours a week (ex: a highschool student, the elderly, etc) you make around $420 a month
Some states don't allow you to apply for welfare unless you make under $200. But some states go as high as $1400. Meaning EVERYONE that works for minimum wage, 40 hours a week and down... Qualifies for welfare in at least 1 state in America.
Job creators need to pay above minimum wage.
Wal Mart CEOs and Family (The Waltons) have multibillion dollar salaries, while their employees don't make enough to stay off well fare.
Bitcoin can help, because when you trade a BTC for a dollar ABOVE value, you boost the value of the dollar around the world. And job creators can use extra money to do this, while investing in bitcoin.
Have you considered the effect of abolishing the minimum wage? Here is a link which will help clear up some myths about minimum wage. http://blog.heritage.org/2013/03/05/busting-5-myths-about-the-minimum-wage/I think minimum wage should go up. |
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June 01, 2013, 05:29:31 AM |
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Forcing the Waltons to pay their employees more would just mean you'd see less WalMart associates at every WalMart.
I know how they WOULD do it, I'm saying how they SHOULD do it. |
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myrkul
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June 01, 2013, 05:30:41 AM |
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I think minimum wage should go up.
So you think there should be more unemployment, huh? |
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June 01, 2013, 05:33:01 AM |
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I think minimum wage should go up.
So you think there should be more unemployment, huh? No, the people with the money should pay themselves less. You think like a republican. |
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myrkul
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June 01, 2013, 05:39:32 AM |
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I think minimum wage should go up.
So you think there should be more unemployment, huh? No, the people with the money should pay themselves less. You think like a republican. No, I think like a Libertarian. Let me teach you a little economics. In order for an employee to be worth hiring, he needs to offer more value to the employer than he commands in wages. A minimum wage limits the number of workers that can provide that value to the employer, by raising the amount that they have to be able to provide in order to be profitable to employ. Since you like Youtube videos so much, here's a short one for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFbYM2EDz40 |
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June 01, 2013, 05:41:14 AM |
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Maybe they could, but first stop forcing them to do it by pointing government guns at them.
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June 01, 2013, 05:44:12 AM |
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I think minimum wage should go up.
So you think there should be more unemployment, huh? No, the people with the money should pay themselves less. You think like a republican. No, I think like a libertarian No, that's why I made the effort to specify. YOU think like a REPUBLICAN. Libertarians are about protecting freedom and property. Republicans are about cutting taxes and getting money to the job creators. |
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June 01, 2013, 05:49:42 AM |
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No, that's why I made the effort to specify. YOU think like a REPUBLICAN.
Libertarians are about protecting freedom and property.
Republicans are about cutting taxes and getting money to the job creators.
Who cares what Republicans want? The difference between a Libertarian and a Republican is this: one wants less/no government, the other can't function without it. |
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myrkul
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June 01, 2013, 05:50:47 AM |
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I think minimum wage should go up.
So you think there should be more unemployment, huh? No, the people with the money should pay themselves less. You think like a republican. No, I think like a libertarian No, that's why I made the effort to specify. YOU think like a REPUBLICAN. Libertarians are about protecting freedom and property. Republicans are about cutting taxes and getting money to the job creators. Do job creators not deserve their freedom and property protected? Have you watched the video? I'm perfectly capable of explaining the concepts therein, but the video has pretty animation and is narrated by a British chick. |
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June 01, 2013, 05:51:28 AM |
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No, that's why I made the effort to specify. YOU think like a REPUBLICAN.
Libertarians are about protecting freedom and property.
Republicans are about cutting taxes and getting money to the job creators.
Who cares what Republicans want? The difference between a Libertarian and a Republican is this: one wants less/no government, the other can't function without it. There are MANY more difference than that. Republican wants a fence to protect the border Libertarian wants the borders between states to be more defined (meaningful/sacred) |
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June 01, 2013, 05:52:07 AM |
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I think minimum wage should go up.
So you think there should be more unemployment, huh? No, the people with the money should pay themselves less. You think like a republican. No, I think like a libertarian No, that's why I made the effort to specify. YOU think like a REPUBLICAN. Libertarians are about protecting freedom and property. Republicans are about cutting taxes and getting money to the job creators. Do job creators not deserve their freedom and property protected? They do, but they also need to see that the money they are making is being made by the workers, and the workers deserve more of it. |
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June 01, 2013, 05:54:22 AM |
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The economy won't work unless we see some "trickle down", or everyone just gets enslaved by their corporate entity.
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myrkul
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June 01, 2013, 05:55:22 AM |
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Do job creators not deserve their freedom and property protected?
They do, but they also need to see that the money they are making is being made by the workers, and the workers deserve more of it. Then they should ask for a raise. If they make enough extra money for the job creator that he can afford to give them a raise, they'll get it. Otherwise, they will not. Really, watch the video. It's only 7 minutes, and it explains all of this with very nice pictures and lovely narration. |
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June 01, 2013, 05:58:52 AM |
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Do job creators not deserve their freedom and property protected?
They do, but they also need to see that the money they are making is being made by the workers, and the workers deserve more of it. Then they should ask for a raise. If they make enough extra money for the job creator that he can afford to give them a raise, they'll get it. Otherwise, they will not. Really, watch the video. It's only 7 minutes, and it explains all of this with very nice pictures and lovely narration. BULLSHIT. I used to work for $7.50 an hour working for MY DAD. He made $11,000 every Friday on a SINGLE project I completed. I asked for a raise and he didn't even fire me, he just stopped giving me hours. |
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June 01, 2013, 05:59:03 AM |
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I think minimum wage should go up.
So you think there should be more unemployment, huh? No, the people with the money should pay themselves less. You think like a republican. No, I think like a libertarian No, that's why I made the effort to specify. YOU think like a REPUBLICAN. Libertarians are about protecting freedom and property. Republicans are about cutting taxes and getting money to the job creators. Do job creators not deserve their freedom and property protected? They do, but they also need to see that the money they are making is being made by the workers, and the workers deserve more of it. What gives you, or anyone else concerned the confidence that you know how to use my money better than myself? Maybe if the authorities remove their guns, we can sit down and talk about how can we do something for the poor, I may have a plan, and it may work better than yours. Now that you force me to contribute on your terms, I will just give you the money and stop giving a damn, no matter how big a mess you have produced. |
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June 01, 2013, 05:59:28 AM |
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Really, watch the video. It's only 7 minutes, and it explains all of this with very nice pictures and lovely narration.
Really READ, it takes about 30 seconds to get through what I've written. |
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myrkul
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June 01, 2013, 05:59:59 AM |
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Do job creators not deserve their freedom and property protected?
They do, but they also need to see that the money they are making is being made by the workers, and the workers deserve more of it. Then they should ask for a raise. If they make enough extra money for the job creator that he can afford to give them a raise, they'll get it. Otherwise, they will not. Really, watch the video. It's only 7 minutes, and it explains all of this with very nice pictures and lovely narration. BULLSHIT. I used to work for $7.50 an hour working for MY DAD. He made $11,000 every Friday on a SINGLE project I completed. I asked for a raise and he didn't even fire me, he just stopped giving me hours. Don't work for your dad? |
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