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October 02, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
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And if there was only one shooter, then why are there two windows smashed?  Shocked

I imagine the shooter very quickly lost sight and had difficulty breathing due to the amount of rounds he was firing off, requiring him to find another vantage point.

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Breaking news on TV. Mass shooting 50+ dead. Las Vegas Nevad. He shot from a hotel room window down to a big crowd at a music festival. They say the shooter shot himself. According to TV, the shooter's home as been searched and the garage door on his home is completely destroyed. What's up with that?

These kinds of things are usually orchestrated by the government. Why? Gun control? Blaming it Islam?

He probably could have used several an RPGs and done more damage. But he used a gun, which is typically what's done to support the gun control agenda when a bomb could have otherwise been used to do more damage.

Sandy Hook turned out out to be a lie. The school wasn't even open and the victims were all fictitious characters. Is it some kind of government test to see what people will believe?

The target was a County Music concert, not some music festival full of extreme left hippies. If the government was involved in making it happen then they wouldn't want to target their own supporters.

Just think of how things like this happen all the time in Iraq and similar places but when we read about it we don't think much of it. Another 70 people killed in a bombing is just another day.

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the shootings can be categorized acts of terrorism in public places, it shows that not all acts of terrorism are done by the Muslims, because usually the media always assess that the perpetrators of terror acts are always the Muslims, the media always cover news such as this news, the news ordinary unlike if there is a Muslim who do shoot or war that always considered terrorist.
I personally condemn the shootings, regardless of religion we can not judge acts of violence or terrorism on the basis of what their religion is, only the wrong perpetrators, not the religion.
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October 02, 2017, 08:40:31 PM
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The answer is basic. Here is a simple example.

Imagine you are driving your neighbor to work a couple times a week. Every time, your neighbor asks that you stop at the local convenience store to pick up a bottle of water to drink at work. If your neighbor robs the convenience store while you are in the car waiting, and especially if your neighbor kills someone in the store during the robbery, as you drive away, are you not an accomplice to both the robbery and the murder? The law will look at it as though you are, and you just might have a very difficult time explaining your way out of it.

In other words, the hotel across the street was an accomplice.

In Arizona and some other states where it is free to open or conceal carry, the law states that, if a place of business wants to deprive you of your right to bring weapons into their building, onto their premises, they need to provide lock-boxes for you to place your weapons into, and also provide the security for you that you would have done for yourself if they had allowed you to keep your gun.

If hotels and businesses took security serious, they would provide some REAL security, and check their "guests'" luggage for weapons thoroughly.

The hotel might be considered innocent by standard law. But if people wake up to what is going on, they just might be able to sue the hotel for $zillions in damages. Security just might become an individual thing for all business. And, as somebody mentioned above, arm the populace so that they can protect themselves (It's the people that are too chicken to arm themselves; they would rather die in mass shootings like this.).

Roughly 95% of the people are good people who would never harm anyone. Even among the 5% of bad people, only a few would ever do something like this. If everyone wore a gun strapped to his thigh, people would learn to respect each other, and most of the 5% would be too scared to try anything against the people at all. The few who did would be dead in short order.

Gun respect with an armed populace might take a bit of time to get going... because of how far away from self-protection the people have moved. It will take a while for them to get used to it once it is started. But get used to it, or die. Why? Because gun control means slavery. Death is the greatest form of slavery, because you can't even wiggle in the grave.

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So you are saying people should not miss this great opportunity to make money for their lawyers? Since I grew up with Christian values, I have a hard time understanding this type of mindset, looking to make a quick buck, turning death into a profit, etc, but I can understand it is useful for some people...


Are you telling me what I am saying? Or are you asking me? If you are asking, did I say anything about lawyers? Part of the mindset of people is to turn to lawyers when they shouldn't. People have been brainwashed into thinking that lawyers have to be part of the deal, just like they have been brainwashed into thinking that the police will protect them. Just ask these dead and injured how much protection they got from the police. Just look at the people in prison to see how much protection they got from their lawyers.

The Christian way is to forgive an injury done between "brothers." This doesn't include public mass shootings. The church has brainwashed you into wrong thinking. Why? Because it is an arm of the Government - it has a Government 501 c 3 number. Let the brainwashing continue until you are fully within Government slavery.

Gun control brings death = full slavery.

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Are you telling me what the Bible is saying? Or are you asking me what an infidel is? No such thing as to not help a non Christian in the bible, and I read the Bible ions ago. Obviously the people will have to hire lawyers if they want to sue a multi billion hotel business, that is reality.

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Now if only we could talk about the victims, lots of them Christians Trump supporters, and the real criminal, the killer.


No, they don't have to hire lawyers. That kind of thinking is brainwashing done by the legal system.

Obviously, there is no way to repay for loss of life as done in this tragedy. What does that have to do with not helping a non-Christian? Why do you even bring this up?

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You said "The Christian way is to forgive an injury done between "brothers." This doesn't include public mass shootings. " I say there is not way for a Christian to know who is a brother or not a brother and should help everybody.
Wow! Hey, thanks for the insight. No, I mean insight into you. I mean, if you think that somebody opening fire on you and a bunch of non-aggression, unarmed people is brotherly or neighborly or godly, please let me know when you are nearby. I don't mean you any ill will. But your ideals there are a bit frightening, and I want to steer a course away from you.



This is how I feel from all those years spending my time on Po&So: We can believe we are good or we can believe we are bad from birth. That is pretty much what you see here and in real life, no matter the shape this takes. I believe we are good from birth, but that is not a way for me to make money or to control other people's life through taxation, or the way they breathe, or the way they've chosen to defend themselves. Common laws are the natural law of creation, but a multi billion hotel that can hire goons to threaten your children is not "good". You have to have lawyers because it is reality, even if we should not have to. This is where they get you, not because you won't crack but because they know you'll not let people you love be a pressure control device against you.
As I said, your brainwashing makes you think that you need lawyers. To see that you don't, Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz common law." Watch the short video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10, and if you are interested after that, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3MI70PFBw.



Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's
Sounds like Somebody is acknowledging the power of State and taxation.


Well, since you are acknowledging the power of the state and taxation, it helps one to understand why you would think that a shooter is your brother, and that Christianity even says so.

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October 02, 2017, 08:44:45 PM
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Just a random psycho? A random wolf running alone slaughtering people...
This is madness whether it has a relation to religions or not and whether it will be used for gun control or not!

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October 02, 2017, 09:24:17 PM
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The answer is basic. Here is a simple example.

Imagine you are driving your neighbor to work a couple times a week. Every time, your neighbor asks that you stop at the local convenience store to pick up a bottle of water to drink at work. If your neighbor robs the convenience store while you are in the car waiting, and especially if your neighbor kills someone in the store during the robbery, as you drive away, are you not an accomplice to both the robbery and the murder? The law will look at it as though you are, and you just might have a very difficult time explaining your way out of it.

In other words, the hotel across the street was an accomplice.

In Arizona and some other states where it is free to open or conceal carry, the law states that, if a place of business wants to deprive you of your right to bring weapons into their building, onto their premises, they need to provide lock-boxes for you to place your weapons into, and also provide the security for you that you would have done for yourself if they had allowed you to keep your gun.

If hotels and businesses took security serious, they would provide some REAL security, and check their "guests'" luggage for weapons thoroughly.

The hotel might be considered innocent by standard law. But if people wake up to what is going on, they just might be able to sue the hotel for $zillions in damages. Security just might become an individual thing for all business. And, as somebody mentioned above, arm the populace so that they can protect themselves (It's the people that are too chicken to arm themselves; they would rather die in mass shootings like this.).

Roughly 95% of the people are good people who would never harm anyone. Even among the 5% of bad people, only a few would ever do something like this. If everyone wore a gun strapped to his thigh, people would learn to respect each other, and most of the 5% would be too scared to try anything against the people at all. The few who did would be dead in short order.

Gun respect with an armed populace might take a bit of time to get going... because of how far away from self-protection the people have moved. It will take a while for them to get used to it once it is started. But get used to it, or die. Why? Because gun control means slavery. Death is the greatest form of slavery, because you can't even wiggle in the grave.

Cool


So you are saying people should not miss this great opportunity to make money for their lawyers? Since I grew up with Christian values, I have a hard time understanding this type of mindset, looking to make a quick buck, turning death into a profit, etc, but I can understand it is useful for some people...


Are you telling me what I am saying? Or are you asking me? If you are asking, did I say anything about lawyers? Part of the mindset of people is to turn to lawyers when they shouldn't. People have been brainwashed into thinking that lawyers have to be part of the deal, just like they have been brainwashed into thinking that the police will protect them. Just ask these dead and injured how much protection they got from the police. Just look at the people in prison to see how much protection they got from their lawyers.

The Christian way is to forgive an injury done between "brothers." This doesn't include public mass shootings. The church has brainwashed you into wrong thinking. Why? Because it is an arm of the Government - it has a Government 501 c 3 number. Let the brainwashing continue until you are fully within Government slavery.

Gun control brings death = full slavery.

Cool


Are you telling me what the Bible is saying? Or are you asking me what an infidel is? No such thing as to not help a non Christian in the bible, and I read the Bible ions ago. Obviously the people will have to hire lawyers if they want to sue a multi billion hotel business, that is reality.

 Smiley

Now if only we could talk about the victims, lots of them Christians Trump supporters, and the real criminal, the killer.


No, they don't have to hire lawyers. That kind of thinking is brainwashing done by the legal system.

Obviously, there is no way to repay for loss of life as done in this tragedy. What does that have to do with not helping a non-Christian? Why do you even bring this up?

Cool

You said "The Christian way is to forgive an injury done between "brothers." This doesn't include public mass shootings. " I say there is not way for a Christian to know who is a brother or not a brother and should help everybody.
Wow! Hey, thanks for the insight. No, I mean insight into you. I mean, if you think that somebody opening fire on you and a bunch of non-aggression, unarmed people is brotherly or neighborly or godly, please let me know when you are nearby. I don't mean you any ill will. But your ideals there are a bit frightening, and I want to steer a course away from you.



This is how I feel from all those years spending my time on Po&So: We can believe we are good or we can believe we are bad from birth. That is pretty much what you see here and in real life, no matter the shape this takes. I believe we are good from birth, but that is not a way for me to make money or to control other people's life through taxation, or the way they breathe, or the way they've chosen to defend themselves. Common laws are the natural law of creation, but a multi billion hotel that can hire goons to threaten your children is not "good". You have to have lawyers because it is reality, even if we should not have to. This is where they get you, not because you won't crack but because they know you'll not let people you love be a pressure control device against you.
As I said, your brainwashing makes you think that you need lawyers. To see that you don't, Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz common law." Watch the short video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10, and if you are interested after that, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3MI70PFBw.



Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's
Sounds like Somebody is acknowledging the power of State and taxation.


Well, since you are acknowledging the power of the state and taxation, it helps one to understand why you would think that a shooter is your brother, and that Christianity even says so.


Cool

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I am acknowledging that... the Bible is acknowledging the State should not keep people from worshiping God. I did not write the Bible. If I am a true Christian I then believe angels are there to shield me and my family, and to fight off and destroy demons. My job is to tell the shooter he should save his soul, he should stop killing. If he kills me my soul is safe. That's pretty much what the Bible (the New Testament) is telling me.

Of course I will have two angels to protect and shield me from demons like the shooter: Archangel Smith and Archangel Wesson...

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October 03, 2017, 05:27:27 PM
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Neighbor of Las Vegas Shooter Claims He Didn't Do It





Neighbor of Las Vegas Shooter Claims He Didn't Do It

Editorial comment:  While it is still too early to know everything that happend.  It is always prudent to take a look at what the Fake News is not reporting.  All too often the original version of the story is proven wrong to fit a narrative.

The question is what narrative are we being socially engineered towards and by whom?

We do not know for certain if this was a false flag or not, but regardless this is a story that needs to be heard.  Always be vigilant.  Always be skeptical… And always question the government's version of the story.

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Originally reported by Paul Joseph Watson of infowars.com

A caller to the Michael Savage radio show who says he was neighbors with Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock asserts that Paddock could not have carried out the massacre and that it was actually a "set-up".

The man, a former Marine who called himself Rick, says he was Paddock's neighbor between December 2015 and June 2016 in Mesquite, Nevada.

"I can tell you 100% this is not that kind of guy," said Rick, adding that he would see Paddock every other day and that the two would go to a local bar and play slot machines.


Michael Savage interviews the neighbor of the shooter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZeiunoX7bY


"He never even told me that he owned a gun," continued the shooter's neighbor, adding that Paddock did not express any religious or political opinions during their conversations.

"I'm not a big conspiracy theory guy, but it don't sit right," said Rick, before making the extraordinary claim that the whole shooting was a "set up" and that Paddock's body may have been left in the hotel room while other assailants carried out the shooting.

For the full story click here


Read more at http://thelibertarianadvisor.com/2017/10/03/neighbor-of-las-vegas-shooter-claims-he-didnt-do-it/.


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Breaking news on TV. Mass shooting 57+ dead. Almost as high as automotive crash deaths in a typical day in the US. Las Vegas Nevad. He shot from a hotel room window down to a big crowd at a music festival. They say the shooter shot himself. According to TV, the shooter's home as been searched and the garage door on his home is completely destroyed. What's up with that?

Enough people were killed to get close to the number of vehicle accident deaths in a typical day in the US, which is around 92.

These kinds of things are usually orchestrated by the government. Why? Gun control? Blaming it Islam?

He probably could have used several an RPGs and done more damage. But he used a gun, which is typically what's done to support the gun control agenda when a bomb could have otherwise been used to do more damage.

Sandy Hook turned out out to be a lie. The school wasn't even open and the victims were all fictitious characters. Is it some kind of government test to see what people will believe?

The target was a County Music concert, not some music festival full of extreme left hippies. If the government was involved in making it happen then they wouldn't want to target their own supporters.

Just think of how things like this happen all the time in Iraq and similar places but when we read about it we don't think much of it. Another 70 people killed in a bombing is just another day.

Is it possible that foreign terrorists actually did this but the police found an innocent man to blame it on? It makes perfect sense if you think about it. They went in, killed the terrorists, then they checked a gun ownership database for all people in the building, which is easily obtained from the all cell phones located in the building. Then they found someone who owned guns, went and got him then put him in the terrorist's room and shot him. This would explain why the news is saying he may have checked in under a false name, since he wouldn't have actually been in that room. And it explains why two windows were broken and how so many people died in such a short time. Audio recordings will tell if multiple guns fired at once. The real terrorists were then smuggled out of the building. The raid of the man's home then fixed any descrepencies of evidence needed to be done. I'm almost sure any security camera recordings were confiscated first thing. Now that all that's covered up the cover story can be used for more gun control, and the terrorist act is defeated in the best way possible way. Even if ISIS claims to be behind the attack, if nobody believes them then it doesn't matter.

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October 06, 2017, 06:39:50 AM
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The Las Vegas Shootings




I will just say it upfront: I am extremely cynical of any and all mass shootings—and the one in Las Vegas is no exception. Soon after the shootings, I posted this on my Facebook page:

Some preliminary thoughts:

*How does ONE guy take that many long guns and that much ammunition into a hotel room without being noticed or raising someone's suspicion? Those Vegas casino hotels have cameras everywhere. This is Las Vegas, for heaven's sake. Every staff person in these establishments is trained to be alert for suspicious behavior.

*Witnesses said that "strange" people were going through the crowd prior to the shooting telling folks that they were going to die. What's that all about?

*There were reports of shots coming out of a lower floor window in the hotel. What's that all about? Early reports quoted people saying that there were several shooters. Then later, it was declared that there was only one shooter. This seems to happen in every single mass shooting incident.

...

By the way, the media is acting as if the ownership of 28 (or whatever the latest number is) firearms is something far out. That might be true in New Jersey or Massachusetts, but here in Montana it is barely average. Reports say the average home in Montana has 27 guns in it. Heck, there are more guns in the average pickup truck here in Montana than in the average home just about anywhere else.


Read more at http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Opinion/226767-2017-10-05-the-las-vegas-shootings.htm.


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October 06, 2017, 07:51:10 AM
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BREAKING: Law enforcement says Las Vegas shooter “did not act alone” … new details





In a stunning statement that adds further weight to many of the questions raised by Natural News and other independent media leaders — the only remaining real journalists in America — Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo publicly affirmed his belief that Stephen Paddock did not act alone.

“…[H]e had to have some help at some point,” Sheriff Lombardo is now quoted as saying by the UK Express.

...

Caller on the Michael Savage show describes TWO shooters, including one who walked through the crowd, spraying gunfire in every direction.


Read more at https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-04-breaking-law-enforcement-says-las-vegas-shooter-did-not-act-alone-new-details.html.


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MGM’s Jim Murren and George Soros Are Co-Conspirators In the Mandalay Bay Massacre





MGM owns the Mandalay Bay Hotel. Murren is the CEO of MGM Resorts. And just like Peter Sutherland as well as the CEO of BP, Jim Murren, and their affiliated organizations dumped their stock in the weeks leading up the Mandalay Bay Massacre. As it was with the Gulf, this demonstrates clear foresight of what was to come.

Does a CEO have a right to involve shareholders, employees or customers in his own personal and very radical politics? Jim Murren is affiliated with the darkest groups in America. Murren put MGM in business with an organization with ties to Islamic terrorism, namely, the Southern Poverty Law Center and its creation, Antifa.

Yes, you read the above paragraph correctly. I just got off the phone with an ex-CIA operative, whom I have known for several years and he told me that Murren and colleagues are deep into Antifa (George Soros and the Southern Poverty Law Center). I have another ex-CIA operative, Robert Steele, coming on my show on Sunday evening who will be exploring these links more fully. Now we are finding that there is some documentation that is publicly available to support the allegation that Antifa is making good on its promise to start an American civil war.


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October 08, 2017, 06:54:40 AM
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Please tell me he's joking. This is not a realistic assessment of the facts.


Breaking news on TV. Mass shooting 57+ dead. Almost as high as automotive crash deaths in a typical day in the US. Las Vegas Nevad. He shot from a hotel room window down to a big crowd at a music festival. They say the shooter shot himself. According to TV, the shooter's home as been searched and the garage door on his home is completely destroyed. What's up with that?

Enough people were killed to get close to the number of vehicle accident deaths in a typical day in the US, which is around 92.

These kinds of things are usually orchestrated by the government. Why? Gun control? Blaming it Islam?

He probably could have used several an RPGs and done more damage. But he used a gun, which is typically what's done to support the gun control agenda when a bomb could have otherwise been used to do more damage.

Sandy Hook turned out out to be a lie. The school wasn't even open and the victims were all fictitious characters. Is it some kind of government test to see what people will believe?

The target was a County Music concert, not some music festival full of extreme left hippies. If the government was involved in making it happen then they wouldn't want to target their own supporters.

Just think of how things like this happen all the time in Iraq and similar places but when we read about it we don't think much of it. Another 70 people killed in a bombing is just another day.

Is it possible that foreign terrorists actually did this but the police found an innocent man to blame it on? It makes perfect sense if you think about it. They went in, killed the terrorists, then they checked a gun ownership database for all people in the building, which is easily obtained from the all cell phones located in the building. Then they found someone who owned guns, went and got him then put him in the terrorist's room and shot him. This would explain why the news is saying he may have checked in under a false name, since he wouldn't have actually been in that room. And it explains why two windows were broken and how so many people died in such a short time. Audio recordings will tell if multiple guns fired at once. The real terrorists were then smuggled out of the building. The raid of the man's home then fixed any descrepencies of evidence needed to be done. I'm almost sure any security camera recordings were confiscated first thing. Now that all that's covered up the cover story can be used for more gun control, and the terrorist act is defeated in the best way possible way. Even if ISIS claims to be behind the attack, if nobody believes them then it doesn't matter.

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October 09, 2017, 12:53:56 AM
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Chief M.D. of Vegas hospital's emergency department says 'mass casualty incident...





Chief Medical Doctor of the Emergency Department at Vally Hospital Medical Center and longtime Chief Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Doctor Jeffrey Davis admitted on camera that a 'mass casualty incident disaster drill' was activated after the massacre in which 59 people were killed, according to official reports.

The famous doctor said that he was at home Sunday night when got a call (around 10 p.m. local time) from one of his office directors who notified the doctor that there was 'possibly' a mass shooting with multiple victims and that the hospital was going to activate a 'mass casualty incident' or 'disaster drill.'

"Sunday evening I was at home. Probably like everyone getting ready for nighttime […] I was notified by one of my office directors that there was a shooting, possibly a mass shooting, with multiple victims and that we were going to initiate what is called a 'mass casualty incident' or 'disaster drill'," the doctor explained. "Initially I didn't know what she was talking about, many people didn't, and she said 'turn on your T.V'. At that time I did and I started to witness what everyone else in the world was witnessing."


Read more at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2017/10/07/chief-m-d-of-vegas-hospitals-emergency-department-says-mass-casualty-incident-disaster-drill-was-initiated-after-massacre-took-place/.


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Note in Las Vegas gunman's hotel room included details of bullet trajectory





A note found in the hotel room of the man who shot into a crowd from his perch in a Las Vegas high-rise included hand-written calculations about where he needed to aim to maximize his accuracy and kill as many people as possible.

In an interview airing Sunday on "60 Minutes," three police officers who stormed Stephen Paddock's hotel room in the Mandalay Bay hotel tell correspondent Bill Whitaker new details about the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history. The officers were the first to see Paddock's body and the arsenal of weapons and ammunition he had stockpiled.

Officer David Newton from the Las Vegas Police Department's K-9 unit said he noticed a note on the shooter's nightstand once officers breached the room. He said the note was located near one of the windows that Paddock had smashed with a hammer to fire onto the crowd below with high-powered semi-automatic rifles outfitted to increase their rate of fire.


Read more, click the links, and watch the video at https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-note-hotel-room-details-of-bullet-trajectory/.


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ISIS Gunmen In Vegas Executed US Defense Spy Paddock





Official cover-ups of crimes that implicate the national-security establishment, as the Vegas massacre surely has done, must be handled with patience learned from prior investigative experience in order to spot disinformation and assemble credible evidence into a reconstruction of the totality of the crime, including the sequence of events, role of other participants, relationship to the government, background and motive.
 
In pathetic contrast, the compliant news media portrays alleged gunman Stephen Paddock as a lone gunman and man of mystery without making an serious effort at uncovering his connections to the intelligence services, which happens to be the key to comprehending the reasons behind this puzzling mass murder. Then there is the planted single gunman claim  like the FBI tip to Infowars that suspect Paddock was killed in the Bureau's assault and that antifa (anti-fascist, anti-racist anarchist) literature was found in the 32nd floor room at the Mandalay. (Sheriff Joseph Lombardo countered that falsehood from the FBI by stating more than one shooter was involved.) Here it will be shown that Paddock was anything but a radical anarchist and instead worked as a contract agent for the Defense Department and CIA.
 
The FBI-Las Vegas police feud was discussed at the 4chan thread that was soon closed for new comments:
According to a source in the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department:: "The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders. Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun-running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS had learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock's true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled thd scene.
 
"Everything is being kept under extreme wraps because 1) armed ISIS terrorists are still at large and 2) this is very embarrassing to the FBI and they don't want their scheme to become public knowledge. . . . People within LVMP are disgusted and are pushing for this information to be released to the public."
 
Arguably more grotesque are the online snipers who falsely insist that the Vegas massacre never happened but was a stage-play faked by crisis actors. (There are crisis actors, but they are hired by public relations firms after a calamity to divert public attention from the actual trauma victims.)


Read more at http://www.rense.com/general96/isisgunmanvegas.html.


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Las Vegas Shooting Victim: "There Was 100% More Than One Shooter," Gates To ...





Las Vegas mass shooting victim Rocky Palermo was shot in the pelvis during the horrific attack and is now speaking out about what he saw and believes happened, including the presence of multiple shooters as well as locked concert gates and police telling frantic civilians to go in the other direction.

Palermo, who has done various interviews since the attack, appeared on "The Blast" with a series of shocking comments that correlate with various other reports indicating that multiple shooters carried out the attack and that the FBI is actively covering this up.

"I definitely do believe that there was 100% more than one shooter, every other person that I've talked to that did unfortunately get hit as well, have all said the same things," Palermo detailed.

The man then goes on to explain that after being shot he ran "about 200 yards" to hide behind a car, all the while hearing bullets fly past him at what he believes was ground level.

"I'm waiting and all of a sudden we hear a little whizzing going by us, all of a sudden bullets are just flying by," he continued.

"When something is coming up and down or at least from a different angle they are either going to hit the ground or… alot of different things are going to happen. When someone is shooting form a horizontal line its just going to keep shooting," Palermo attempted to explain. Take note that what he means here is that people were being shot at from ground level rather than the 32nd floor of the hotel.

Palermo then specifically heard the gun shots get "closer and closer" before quickly deciding it was once again time to run.

Shockingly, he then goes on to detail the fact that at the end of the concert the previous two nights everyone had exited a specific way but on the night of the shooting this route was locked down shortly before the attack.

"Every other night at the concert, everybody kinda exited right off Las Vegas Blvd, that was standard, that was routine, you get out of the concert and you go down to the next casino," he continued.

"At 10pm they closed every exit on Las Vegas Blvd, every single one. They gated them all closed with chain-link fences, 10:08 the shooting started and we were pigs sitting in a corral. We only had one exit to go out of…..everyone was just kinda following the sheep."


Rocky Palermo Las Vegas testimony

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What a hero.  Satanic u.s. suffered major losses that day.

bra i think your camels want to have anal sex with you again.
better run to your kitchen and make love with them.


camel raping scum.
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VEGAS SURVIVOR WHO DIED SUDDENLY HAD PLANNED GROUP TO EXPOSE COVER-UP





A woman who died days after surviving the ill-fated October 1 country music festival in Las Vegas wanted to organize a survivor's group in order to flesh out the strange event, Facebook conversations reveal.

Kymberley Suchomel, 28, died suddenly on October 9 at her Apple Valley, California, residence five days after posting her version of events to Facebook.




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In the days following the massacre, friends reached out to Suchomel over a October 4 post in which she described someone setting off "fire crackers" near the venue, and detailed being chased by numerous people, concluding at one point "There was more than one gun firing. 100% more than one."

One longtime friend of Suchomel's, who asked to remain anonymous, provided Infowars with screenshots of a conversation he'd had with her, in which she indicated planning to "organize a group of survivors" in order "to piece things together."




"You can share my comment for sure. And you can leave my name," Suchomel says in a Facebook message to her friend. "I'm trying to organize a group of survivors so if anyone wants to contact me they can. Because this fucked up shit doesn't make sense and we are trying to piece things together."

"The media can suck it. They have no idea what went down!" she added.


Suchomel goes on to tell her friend, who told Infowars he'd known her for years, that she was compiling a "second by second story" detailing her experience, and pinpoints on an image where she'd been seated with her friends.





Important to note is that much of Suchomel's lengthy account – now deleted from Facebook, but available here – appears to contradict the lone wolf shooter narrative provided to the public from law enforcement.

Another friend of Suchomel who organized a fundraiser to help pay for funeral expenses says her family made the decision to deactivate Kymberley's Facebook account due to "an overwhelming amount of messages" from conspiracy theorists claiming her friend was "murdered."

"They believe she passed away from a grand mahl seizure but the autopsy report has not been finalized," Suchomel's friend wrote on Facebook Sunday.


Read more and watch the videos, including reading Suchomel's lengthy account, at https://www.infowars.com/woman-who-died-suddenly-after-surviving-vegas-massacre-wanted-to-organize-survivors-group/.


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Eyewitness account of rapid gunfire, muzzle flash, people shot at Tropicana...





An eyewitness named Geo Rios and his girlfriend were attending the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival on the night of Oct. 1 when gunfire rang out striking numerous people inside the venue.

Rios said that you could actually hear the bullets hitting bodies all around them and said that several people who were struck fell atop his girlfriend.

"[…] as we're hearing that we all dropped," the eyewitness explained. 'There were people getting shot all around us. Everywhere around us. It was very, very, scary.'

"One second we were listening to Jason Aldean […] the next moment we are fighting for our lives."

Geos said that he and his girlfriend were physically exerted just trying to make it out of the venue and explained how 'it was a real workout' to keep dropping down to take cover and then get back up again.

"[…] you have no idea, it drained us," he said. "It literally drained every little part of us that we could possibly have. […] it took all of what was in us."


Gio Rios - Las Vegas Eyewitness Report of Multiple Shooters at the Tropicana and NyNy

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The Way Things Work in Vegas . . . Part One







Our friend Ernie Hancock, who runs the Freedom's Phoenix radio show and Web site down in Phoenix (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Front-Page.htm) claims I originated the dictum that -– if you want the straight dope on any big, controversial news event -– you just need to "wait three weeks" for the official "massaged for the masses" narrative to start to unravel.

I don't know that 21 days is a truly magic number, but it is interesting that two-and-a-half weeks have now elapsed since depraved killer Stephen Paddock -– motive still not clear – opened fire out his hotel window on the crowd at a country music festival in Las Vegas on the night of October First, killing at least 58 (deaths of the wounded unfortunately continue) and wounding about 500 more . . . all innocents presumably unknown to him.



LAS VEGAS, NV – OCTOBER 01: People run from the Route 91 Harvest country music festival on October 1, 2017 in Las Vegas. (Photo by David Becker/Getty Images)


Read lots more at http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/227526-2017-10-19-the-way-things-work-in-vegas-part-one.htm.


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