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June 25, 2011, 06:35:41 AM
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Let's not let our currencies be traded in denominations under $10. Everybody gets paid a decent wage now because they couldn't possibly be paid any lower per a unit of their time. They would have to buy goods in larger amounts but it's always good to prepare right?
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June 25, 2011, 11:21:11 AM
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We would also need to outlaw units of time greater than one hour.
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June 25, 2011, 11:48:36 AM
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We would also need to outlaw units of time greater than one hour.

I think that's in the Patriot Act.

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June 25, 2011, 01:08:57 PM
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June 25, 2011, 11:22:07 PM
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Let's not let our currencies be traded in denominations under $10.

Don't worry, my friend.  In several years, there will be so much inflation that it wouldn't even be economical for the Fed to waste the cotton and ink to print denominations lower than $10.

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June 26, 2011, 03:24:17 AM
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Atlas is obviously not being serious, but his sully argument is no less silly that the argument in favor of the minimum wage. If the minimum wage actually raised the standard of living of the poor, why not make it $100/hr? why not $1,000?  Wages are determined by productivity and job seekers who's productivity is below the minimum wage level are simply not hired. They have no way to gain on-the-job training (unlike all the interns in Nancy Pelosi's office) that will raise their skill level, productivity level and ultimately their wage level. Just because the argument's too complex for your average knee-jerk liberal to comprehend, doesn't make it wrong. Just because the minimum wage is well-intentioned, doesn't make it right.

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June 27, 2011, 06:55:04 PM
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Let's not let our currencies be traded in denominations under $10.

Don't worry, my friend.  In several years, there will be so much inflation that it wouldn't even be economical for the Fed to waste the cotton and ink to print denominations lower than $10.

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June 27, 2011, 07:09:26 PM
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Minimum wage should be denominated in terms of sustenance.  For instance an hours wage is worth the cost of a quart of milk, a loaf of bread, and a pound of butter.  This eliminates the inflationary issue because if the price of food goes up, so does your wage.
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June 27, 2011, 07:14:53 PM
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Atlas is obviously not being serious, but his sully argument is no less silly that the argument in favor of the minimum wage. If the minimum wage actually raised the standard of living of the poor, why not make it $100/hr? why not $1,000? 

Because that's idiotic and not sustainable.  Slippery slope fail.

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June 27, 2011, 07:25:16 PM
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Minimum wage should be denominated in terms of sustenance.  For instance an hours wage is worth the cost of a quart of milk, a loaf of bread, and a pound of butter.  This eliminates the inflationary issue because if the price of food goes up, so does your wage.

In what area, in what store?

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June 27, 2011, 07:52:07 PM
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Atlas is obviously not being serious, but his sully argument is no less silly that the argument in favor of the minimum wage. If the minimum wage actually raised the standard of living of the poor, why not make it $100/hr? why not $1,000? 

Because that's idiotic and not sustainable.  Slippery slope fail.
...but doesn't a man deserve to live at $100 an hour? There should be enough wealth to for everybody to live at such a wage. We just need more central planning. Nothing math can't solve... and maybe a gun or two.
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June 27, 2011, 08:04:00 PM
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Minimum wage should be denominated in terms of sustenance.  For instance an hours wage is worth the cost of a quart of milk, a loaf of bread, and a pound of butter.  This eliminates the inflationary issue because if the price of food goes up, so does your wage.

In what area, in what store?

the area where the worker lives.

an average of all stores in the area.

minimum wage should be set at a level where the basic needs (food, housing, clothing, etc.) for a family can be met with the pay from a single full time job.
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June 27, 2011, 08:22:48 PM
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OK, and let's say that that is... $10 an hour. (just a number I pulled out of thin air)

What happens to the workers whose skills are only worth $9/hr? $8? $5?

What happens to the employers who had 6 workers working at $5/hr?

Does he pay 6 workers twice as much, or does he cut back and pay 3 workers what he used to pay 6?

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June 27, 2011, 08:37:07 PM
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Regulation nationwide ofcourse!

If we're pipe dreaming then dream big and stop nit picking.

Minimum wage should be denominated in terms of sustenance.  For instance an hours wage is worth the cost of a quart of milk, a loaf of bread, and a pound of butter.  This eliminates the inflationary issue because if the price of food goes up, so does your wage.

In what area, in what store?
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June 27, 2011, 09:53:18 PM
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OK, and let's say that that is... $10 an hour. (just a number I pulled out of thin air)

What happens to the workers whose skills are only worth $9/hr? $8? $5?


They'll now be paid $10/hr, obviously.


What happens to the employers who had 6 workers working at $5/hr?

Does he pay 6 workers twice as much, or does he cut back and pay 3 workers what he used to pay 6?

After lots of bitching and threatening during the political debate over the new minimum wage law, when the rubber meets the road he'll just man up and take a less massive chunk for himself and shell out the extra to the workers.

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June 27, 2011, 10:03:28 PM
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Does he pay 6 workers twice as much, or does he cut back and pay 3 workers what he used to pay 6?

better question : why did he have 6 workers when he apparently only needs 3?
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June 27, 2011, 10:19:53 PM
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After lots of bitching and threatening during the political debate over the new minimum wage law, when the rubber meets the road he'll just man up and take a less massive chunk for himself and shell out the extra to the workers.

Well, Lets say this employer is a restauranteur. Here's what will happen: (And I speak from personal experience here)

First, the employer will look to raise his margins, cutting back on quality ingredients, or cutting back on the ingredients themselves (Can anyone say 'McDouble'?)
If that doesn't work, He'll cut back on the hours he allots to the management to parse out to the workers. He doesn't want to fire anyone, but if he goes broke, he can't pay anyone. This results in poorer service, longer lines, and more pissed off customers.
If THAT doesn't work, He'll start letting people go.

Huh. 'Man up' didn't show up in there anywhere. Nor could it, in low-margin industries like Fast Food.

Does he pay 6 workers twice as much, or does he cut back and pay 3 workers what he used to pay 6?

better question : why did he have 6 workers when he apparently only needs 3?

He had six so he didn't have to work them to death.

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June 28, 2011, 09:08:42 AM
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Atlas is obviously not being serious, but his sully argument is no less silly that the argument in favor of the minimum wage. If the minimum wage actually raised the standard of living of the poor, why not make it $100/hr? why not $1,000? 

Because that's idiotic and not sustainable.  Slippery slope fail.

Oh, yes- because YOU know what's sustainable in someone else's business. You must have gone to Princeton.

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