[ANN] ELACOIN fork: retarg @19440 diff .3 |interval calc change? see page 11+

[InfusionDW]

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[FatumNNM]

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Thank you

[mika1977]

http://elc.scryptmining.com cleaned up and reporting well.

Reporting well my ass. This pool rob my coins, for the first 1000 shares i have 1.09 coin, for the next 8000+ i have nothing, and over all of that after repairing pool, my final balance drop to 0.89 coin.
It`s not fair, and until i have not refunded from dev. of this pool i claim that is a scam pool, that works for interest of his dev.

[Llipox]

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[werwolf88]

EPvZPobELp2Ba7H2rX85ZTAsDSPbq7iFf6

thank you!!

[vityaz]

EcExfD87atkZbd6izhwt4fUguCtdCZrWxs

Thanks

[Tranzistor]

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[sal002]

I've been sending some units to the coin for a bit now. Lately, I've found some blocks, but they're immediately rejected. Happened with the last five blocks - gogo solo mining!

Found block for pool 0!
Rejected 00025f9f Diff 27.6K/10234 BLOCK! GPU 0 pool 0
New block detected on network
New block detected on network
New block detected on network
New block detected on network
New block detected on network
New block detected on network
Found block for pool 0!
Rejected 0003089f Diff 21.6K/10234 BLOCK! GPU 1 pool 0

likely cuz of the very fast block times we were having when 80MH joined the network when the coin became profitable based on a 0.05BTC deep base because coinChoose values things wrong.

Subject to disagreement - I value based on currently open orders to purchase averaged up to a minimal order.  I understand you want me to factor in prior orders, but that would require some sort of technical analysis to my calcs, which I am still not a believer in . Plus, I'd rather undervalue (on a consistent basis to all coins), than over value as it would lead miners to be disappointed when they get less than they believe they should have. 

[nearmiss]

http://elc.scryptmining.com cleaned up and reporting well.

Reporting well my ass. This pool rob my coins, for the first 1000 shares i have 1.09 coin, for the next 8000+ i have nothing, and over all of that after repairing pool, my final balance drop to 0.89 coin.
It`s not fair, and until i have not refunded from dev. of this pool i claim that is a scam pool, that works for interest of his dev.

Hey, glad to see you always assume the worst.  Let me know your username, or pm me, and I'll gladly look into it and let you know.  

I love being a pool op, your always a scammer at the slightest sign of inconsistency, when 99% of the time it could easily be fixed off the boards

Other things to keep in mind:  
#1 The orhpan fest for the first 238 blocks when someone with more hash power than the network replaced the chain, and everyone lost all their coins (not just the pool, everyone mining ELC up to that point). So no payouts for those shares, as the pool had no coins to give out.
#2, blocks from ~12am EST to ~6:30am EST (when the pool wasn't reporting properly) where incorrectly paid out as 1 reward blocks instead of 0.909792. This was due to me rushing a bit to clean up the backlog properly.  A slight adjustment to balances was made to correct this shortly after (or the pool would be negative funds).  
#3. Any mining done in the last ~2hrs (since the 6:30am cleanup) should be 100% fine and dandy as I mentioned, if its not, I need some details so I can investigate.  
#4 With the coin requiring 120 confirms and the current global hashrate, we are currently ~4.5hrs delayed in final confirmation of coins (ie: taking 4.5hrs to see payouts).  This has nothing to do with the pool perse, its just how long its taking the network in general to chew through 120 confirmations.  (You can see the last confirmed blocks on the pool blocks stats page).  If the pool had a surplus balance of ELC I'd gladly reduce this (much less stress on the servers storing all the share info over 120 confirms), but it doesn't at this point.

Not saying any of the above is the cause of your problems, but stuff to keep in mind.  As I said, I need your user details so I can look further into your complaint.

[mika1977]

http://elc.scryptmining.com cleaned up and reporting well.

Reporting well my ass. This pool rob my coins, for the first 1000 shares i have 1.09 coin, for the next 8000+ i have nothing, and over all of that after repairing pool, my final balance drop to 0.89 coin.
It`s not fair, and until i have not refunded from dev. of this pool i claim that is a scam pool, that works for interest of his dev.

Hey, glad to see you always assume the worst.  Let me know your username, or pm me, and I'll gladly look into it and let you know.  

I love being a pool op, your always a scammer at the slightest sign of inconsistency, when 99% of the time it could easily be fixed off the boards

Other things to keep in mind:  
#1 The orhpan fest for the first 238 blocks when someone with more hash power than the network replaced the chain, and everyone lost all their coins (not just the pool, everyone mining ELC up to that point). So no payouts for those shares, as the pool had no coins to give out.
#2, blocks from ~12am EST to ~6:30am EST (when the pool wasn't reporting properly) where incorrectly paid out as 1 reward blocks instead of 0.909792. This was due to me rushing a bit to clean up the backlog properly.  A slight adjustment to balances was made to correct this shortly after (or the pool would be negative funds).  
#3. Any mining done in the last ~2hrs (since the 6:30am cleanup) should be 100% fine and dandy as I mentioned, if its not, I need some details so I can investigate.  
#4 With the coin requiring 120 confirms and the current global hashrate, we are currently ~4.5hrs delayed in final confirmation of coins (ie: taking 4.5hrs to see payouts).  This has nothing to do with the pool perse, its just how long its taking the network in general to chew through 120 confirmations.  (You can see the last confirmed blocks on the pool blocks stats page).  If the pool had a surplus balance of ELC I'd gladly reduce this (much less stress on the servers storing all the share info over 120 confirms), but it doesn't at this point.

Not saying any of the above is the cause of your problems, but stuff to keep in mind.  As I said, I need your user details so I can look further into your complaint.

I PM to you and be more than happy when i have an answer - no matter what.

[mat5x]

http://elc.scryptmining.com cleaned up and reporting well.

Reporting well my ass. This pool rob my coins, for the first 1000 shares i have 1.09 coin, for the next 8000+ i have nothing, and over all of that after repairing pool, my final balance drop to 0.89 coin.
It`s not fair, and until i have not refunded from dev. of this pool i claim that is a scam pool, that works for interest of his dev.

In case you didnt notice _ALL 3 POOLS_ suffered the same error and reported the same error at the same exact block number.

Doesnt that sound like a bug to you instead of coordinated malicious attack? Ruining the coin isnt worth any $ to ANYONE, so there's no point in it.

Stop assuming the worst in people.

It's too bad Bitcoin protocols help create and the BTC net is a Super Computer designed to calculate away the need for human trust. It seems that it's WORKING TOO WELL.

[mat5x]

notice the # of giveaways here, esp mika above, compared to my 100 give away. See? I gave more than required.  Giveaway is now closed.

Yes its out of my own pocket. If anyone has a buncha and want to donate, the donation and bounty addr is EPQGSoqhszJM8xHzAXZ7HBYH7x9sRYm6Qp.

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[mat5x]

at block 19400 there'll be a retarget and the difficulty will drop by 4x. profitability will increase by 4x.

value on coinchoose is 35% profitability. that can change up or down in a second of course with buys. I dont agree with coinchoose's valuation, consider this

someone selling 100 ELC for .0025, someone buying at 0.0020, they dont meet. value of coin is based on 0.002 now.

but if the buy price was HIGHER, the trade would execute and _DROP_ the valuation of the coin to the next (possibly much lower) bidder, even though it just performed much higher. so i think it's unfair to ignore previous trades and asking prices.

at any rate, itll climb to 140%.

[sal002]

but if the buy price was HIGHER, the trade would execute and _DROP_ the valuation of the coin to the next (possibly much lower) bidder, even though it just performed much higher. so i think it's unfair to ignore previous trades and asking prices.

What you hope is the market will adapt and a new buy order is placed matching the prior price.  If no buy price is placed at that level, then the coin is in a downward movement.

[Magic8Ball]

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Thanks

[mat5x]

What you hope is the market will adapt and a new buy order is placed matching the prior price.  If no buy price is placed at that level, then the coin is in a downward movement.

Sounds fair in some ways I spose...

it's a tricky thing to value - you say it values on a significant BTC equiv order, what if the market is too small to meet the minimum total BTC value on the buy side, how is that handled?

[sal002]

What you hope is the market will adapt and a new buy order is placed matching the prior price.  If no buy price is placed at that level, then the coin is in a downward movement.

Sounds fair in some ways I spose...

it's a tricky thing to value - you say it values on a significant BTC equiv order, what if the market is too small to meet the minimum total BTC value on the buy side, how is that handled?

All of the orders are averaged.

Honestly, I am debating whether I just want the price for one block of the cryptocurrency.  That would be smaller, but more accurately reflects what the market will have for a minor.   But I am getting constant pressure to "under" report profitability from the users.  Hard to balance.

[mat5x]

All of the orders are averaged.

Honestly, I am debating whether I just want the price for one block of the cryptocurrency.  That would be smaller, but more accurately reflects what the market will have for a minor.   But I am getting constant pressure to "under" report profitability from the users.  Hard to balance.

One block, like power cost? Power cost is different values in different markets. hmm. odd. depth of market is kinda already ignored, since you take an abitrary .5BTC sizing regardless of the sizing of the market - sometimes there's not enuf to satisfy a .5BTC value, othertimes thats just a 100th of the total bid values.

1 block instead would be another abitrary valuation, and interesting in ELC's case with low reward (high value_) coins.

[bubbers214]

http://elc.scryptmining.com cleaned up and reporting well.

Reporting well my ass. This pool rob my coins, for the first 1000 shares i have 1.09 coin, for the next 8000+ i have nothing, and over all of that after repairing pool, my final balance drop to 0.89 coin.
It`s not fair, and until i have not refunded from dev. of this pool i claim that is a scam pool, that works for interest of his dev.

Hey, glad to see you always assume the worst.  Let me know your username, or pm me, and I'll gladly look into it and let you know.  

I love being a pool op, your always a scammer at the slightest sign of inconsistency, when 99% of the time it could easily be fixed off the boards

Other things to keep in mind:  
#1 The orhpan fest for the first 238 blocks when someone with more hash power than the network replaced the chain, and everyone lost all their coins (not just the pool, everyone mining ELC up to that point). So no payouts for those shares, as the pool had no coins to give out.
#2, blocks from ~12am EST to ~6:30am EST (when the pool wasn't reporting properly) where incorrectly paid out as 1 reward blocks instead of 0.909792. This was due to me rushing a bit to clean up the backlog properly.  A slight adjustment to balances was made to correct this shortly after (or the pool would be negative funds).  
#3. Any mining done in the last ~2hrs (since the 6:30am cleanup) should be 100% fine and dandy as I mentioned, if its not, I need some details so I can investigate.  
#4 With the coin requiring 120 confirms and the current global hashrate, we are currently ~4.5hrs delayed in final confirmation of coins (ie: taking 4.5hrs to see payouts).  This has nothing to do with the pool perse, its just how long its taking the network in general to chew through 120 confirmations.  (You can see the last confirmed blocks on the pool blocks stats page).  If the pool had a surplus balance of ELC I'd gladly reduce this (much less stress on the servers storing all the share info over 120 confirms), but it doesn't at this point.

Not saying any of the above is the cause of your problems, but stuff to keep in mind.  As I said, I need your user details so I can look further into your complaint.

I PM to you and be more than happy when i have an answer - no matter what.

I just wanted to give a quick shout out to Nearmiss, we discussed the fact that the pool was not paying out when it was finding blocks because of the bug in the reward numbers and he happily paid me out of pocket to make things right.  Great service from a pool owner and one that I would be happy to point my hashes at whenever I can.

[sal002]

notice the # of giveaways here, esp mika above, compared to my 100 give away. See? I gave more than required.  Giveaway is now closed.

Yes its out of my own pocket. If anyone has a buncha and want to donate, the donation and bounty addr is EPQGSoqhszJM8xHzAXZ7HBYH7x9sRYm6Qp.

I donated 10 to the cause.