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October 06, 2017, 07:07:16 PM
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Hello,

I have seen many websites offering "Lifetime" contracts on cloud mining hashrate. Most ROI calculators that I have come across appear to indicate that these contracts will lose profitability in around 20-30 weeks, so less than a year. Am I looking at this wrong, or are these contracts actually just that much of a scam?
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October 06, 2017, 08:09:58 PM
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No, these contracts are right. With the amount of profits that people can see from buying into the altcoin mining frenzy the difficulity is going to increase at an exponential rate due to this. Plus, my view on Cloud Mining (be it bitcoin or Altcoins) is that all of the companies that offer this out are a bunch of scams, and the few that aren't are the ones that are just going  to stop mining on your 'lifetime' contract when it isn't profitable for them.


Avoid it all together dude, you're bound to lose all your money in the end.




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Hello,

I have seen many websites offering "Lifetime" contracts on cloud mining hashrate. Most ROI calculators that I have come across appear to indicate that these contracts will lose profitability in around 20-30 weeks, so less than a year. Am I looking at this wrong, or are these contracts actually just that much of a scam?

Cloud mining is evil. Why sell contracts for mining, if you can mining coins on this hardware (gpu, asics). Cloud mining this is a fraudulent pyramid.

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October 06, 2017, 10:24:12 PM
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Thanks for the information, I figured it was like anything else that seems too good to be true. Angry
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October 06, 2017, 10:32:32 PM
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Yes, I am sad to say that I will likely lose a decent amount of BTC on a "Lifetime" cloud mining contract. I purchased a cloud mining contract back in August (I got caught up in a fervor and didn't do my due diligence.) While it is still paying out, my earning are decreasing by about .0002/week and, if that stays the case, I will no longer be earning anything 34 weeks from now. I think that I will be lucky if I get even 50% of my initial investment back.....I am currently just trying to figure out how to earn some BTC so that I can at least end up with the same BTC as I started with before getting scammed/wasting my BTC on this cloud hash rate
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October 07, 2017, 03:19:09 AM
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Hello,

I have seen many websites offering "Lifetime" contracts on cloud mining hashrate. Most ROI calculators that I have come across appear to indicate that these contracts will lose profitability in around 20-30 weeks, so less than a year. Am I looking at this wrong, or are these contracts actually just that much of a scam?

Avoid those lifetime contracts, but if you're gonna push with cloudmining, better go on a platform that has a secondary Ghs market, so you can liquidate ur assets anytime, or trade for profit.

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October 07, 2017, 03:25:35 AM
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No, these contracts are right. With the amount of profits that people can see from buying into the altcoin mining frenzy the difficulity is going to increase at an exponential rate due to this. Plus, my view on Cloud Mining (be it bitcoin or Altcoins) is that all of the companies that offer this out are a bunch of scams, and the few that aren't are the ones that are just going  to stop mining on your 'lifetime' contract when it isn't profitable for them.

Avoid it all together dude, you're bound to lose all your money in the end.

That's very correct. Never trust them even the legit ones.
I lost a lot of money with cloud mining contracts before.
And yes, even with the so-called lifetime contracts, they will just stop sending your share.
Hard lesson for me. So please don't ever place big investments on this.
Just money that you can risk of or you're ready to lose, if you really want to invest on cloud mining.
There are a lot of discussions here also related to cloud mining, so you might want to dig deeper & learn more about this before plunging to an unknown venture.
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October 07, 2017, 03:29:29 AM
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You've got past that first hurtle. If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is. All cloud mining ponzis are a scam. They would make more by mining rather than going through the hassle of renting out contracts. Lifetime contracts are good for the lifetime of the business, which will always be short lived. All of these ponzis will fail and if you think you're in a legitimate cloud mining scheme you're going to be very surprised when they reach their end game goal and you get taken for everything.
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October 07, 2017, 04:05:30 AM
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Hello,

I have seen many websites offering "Lifetime" contracts on cloud mining hashrate. Most ROI calculators that I have come across appear to indicate that these contracts will lose profitability in around 20-30 weeks, so less than a year. Am I looking at this wrong, or are these contracts actually just that much of a scam?

You're completely right, actually.

The fact is that "lifetime" contracts are not "lifetime" at all. In fact, as network difficulty goes up and bitcoin rates fluctuates, it is very possible and even probable that your contract is going to be terminated in under a year or two.

Even if your contract keeps going, it won't get you good results after the initial few months. Is it a scam? I don't think that's the right word, but it's close to one.

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October 07, 2017, 04:28:13 AM
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Yeah, you are not looking at the right way. This type of contracts are not acceptable in the market of investment anymore.
Most of the cloud mining platforms are in market likely to put you in loss financially.
Nobody have been profitted by these contractors as promised.
Instead of bumping your money into mining contracts, you can get good profit trading altcoins.

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October 07, 2017, 04:42:20 AM
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Hello,

I have seen many websites offering "Lifetime" contracts on cloud mining hashrate. Most ROI calculators that I have come across appear to indicate that these contracts will lose profitability in around 20-30 weeks, so less than a year. Am I looking at this wrong, or are these contracts actually just that much of a scam?

What ROI calculators have you used? It may not be accurate.

Some cloud mining sites will close your current contract as soon as you stop making a profit to cover maintenance, others will wait until there are three consecutive days of not enough profit to cover maintenance. But in both cases, your contract will not last more than 4 years(since halving makes mining rewards go down significantly).

I'd say that on average, lifetime contracts will only outlive the 1 year contracts by a maximum of a few months. It is not a good investment to make.
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October 07, 2017, 06:32:44 AM
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Hello,

I have seen many websites offering "Lifetime" contracts on cloud mining hashrate. Most ROI calculators that I have come across appear to indicate that these contracts will lose profitability in around 20-30 weeks, so less than a year. Am I looking at this wrong, or are these contracts actually just that much of a scam?

maybe what they mean about lifetime contracts is as long as they can operate the company then you can still mining with them but if somehow they are shutdown their services in just 6 month then they are only scam you. i have seen this is the past and there are many cloud mining offering "lifetime" like you said but the fact is after they operate in just one year or less, they are run away with the money and people getting sad. for example, in genesis mining, i can reach the ROI in just 9 month with small hashrate and i am sure this will happen too with the big hashrate. in hashnest, the ROI is almost equal with genesis mining. but in the other places, maybe they can guarantee that the ROI can be reach in 4 month but i think its difficult to reach ROI in short of term.



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October 07, 2017, 05:25:34 PM
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What to hide from you mate but these kind of contracts are just shit and they don't pay you for much longer. Have you known to hashflare ? They had similar way of attracting people, they had all these lifetime contracts and shit but recently they turned the cloud mining site upside down by publishing that they will not have the lifetime contracts anymore and those who were on the cloud mining lifetime contract will be offered 12 months contracts. Ask me man how they scammed everyone holding big chunks of hashrates just lost the money over period of time. This was crazy, really sucked the balls out. Sorry for the language but that's how they drive the whole thing and make people disappointed in the end.

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October 07, 2017, 09:39:35 PM
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think the others are completely ripoffs/ponzi schemes. At least GM is actually legit and offers a decent deal.But if you're really interested, go with genesis miningand cloud mining is a waste of time if you are not planning on getting any referrals. Just think about it, why would cloud mining sites offer you contracts if you were going to profit on them consistently and by a large margin? They could make much more mining themselves.


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October 08, 2017, 02:06:20 AM
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Lifetime contracts usually have small print in that they're lifetime for as long as they remain profitable to mine.  There are usually small fees taken from the mining profit and when the fees surpass the profit then the contract is considered done.  This is how they end contracts and sell you on a new one.  I don't consider it a scam but it's not very transparent either.  Cloud mining sounds great on paper but every time I look into them I can't get the math to work out.

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October 08, 2017, 02:52:39 AM
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Hello,

I have seen many websites offering "Lifetime" contracts on cloud mining hashrate. Most ROI calculators that I have come across appear to indicate that these contracts will lose profitability in around 20-30 weeks, so less than a year. Am I looking at this wrong, or are these contracts actually just that much of a scam?
One thing that I have learned in past years is that cloud mining = scam. Don't even think about investing in it,  if it's too good to be true its just a ponzi or HYIP.
All these lifetime plans are to lure in the customers and then in about a month or 2 the website vanishes. If by chance you find a legit cloud mining company then it is not going to give you a great profit, it will be very small.
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October 08, 2017, 03:19:32 AM
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lifetime is marketing Gemic to take contract form user ..but it will closed after certain time ..if you see there is one time mention . contact will active till its profitable .. so you will not able to know which hardware you  have so after certain time it will be down ..
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October 08, 2017, 03:30:37 AM
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Hello,

I have seen many websites offering "Lifetime" contracts on cloud mining hashrate. Most ROI calculators that I have come across appear to indicate that these contracts will lose profitability in around 20-30 weeks, so less than a year. Am I looking at this wrong, or are these contracts actually just that much of a scam?

It's in their terms and conditions, and when you buy the contract you agree to all the terms and conditions so it's not a scam.

But it's just unprofitable. You're essentially speculating on bitcoin price and bitcoin difficulty in a really inefficient way - your contract's gunna expire in less than 2 years. If you want to speculate on bitcoin price, do it by buying bitcoins directly.

There are cases where people have made money, but it's certainly not the majority.

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October 08, 2017, 06:49:11 AM
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Lifetime contracts usually have small print in that they're lifetime for as long as they remain profitable to mine.  There are usually small fees taken from the mining profit and when the fees surpass the profit then the contract is considered done.  This is how they end contracts and sell you on a new one.  I don't consider it a scam but it's not very transparent either.  Cloud mining sounds great on paper but every time I look into them I can't get the math to work out.
Cloud mining is just a waste of time. although there is a contract that has been agreed upon and it appears that we will benefit, but that number is very little and we can actually leverage to a much more profitable investment. even a lot of cloud mining that only lasted for several months only. they stopped and fled after receiving so many investors. this is a fact and now many cases have been encountered like this.
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October 08, 2017, 08:53:27 AM
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Lifetime contracts usually have small print in that they're lifetime for as long as they remain profitable to mine.  There are usually small fees taken from the mining profit and when the fees surpass the profit then the contract is considered done.  This is how they end contracts and sell you on a new one.  I don't consider it a scam but it's not very transparent either.  Cloud mining sounds great on paper but every time I look into them I can't get the math to work out.
Cloud mining is just a waste of time. although there is a contract that has been agreed upon and it appears that we will benefit, but that number is very little and we can actually leverage to a much more profitable investment. even a lot of cloud mining that only lasted for several months only. they stopped and fled after receiving so many investors. this is a fact and now many cases have been encountered like this.

Exactly this.

Cloud mining operations are going to rip you off one way or another. Even the legit ones that actually do mine may rip you off with a bad deal. For instance, look at hashflare. They were one of the premier cloud mining services and they recently reduced all lifetime contracts down to 1 year, for no reason.

Even if this doesn't happen, your contract is eventually going to expire. it's not "lifetime" and this is actually misleading advertising.
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