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October 29, 2017, 10:28:34 AM
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I think it's a waste of time to mine on a smartphone If you use a smartphone to mine, your smartphone feels hot and over time your phone will die.

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can i use my phone to mined
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October 30, 2017, 08:07:36 AM
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can i use my phone to mined

Please, read the thread before making these kind of replies. It has been stated clearly that you cannot mine using a cellphone.

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I've seen some app proof of Step count
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October 31, 2017, 11:54:56 AM
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can i use my phone to mined

Please, read the thread before making these kind of replies. It has been stated clearly that you cannot mine using a cellphone.

as funny as it sounds,you can
not bitcoins and not mine but nevertheless Smiley

disclaimer: not associated or promoting any of these,not sure they are working too
but....    

sweatcoins:  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.sweatco.app
bitwalking: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bitwalking.bitwalking

the idea is that users get coins for exercising or running or just walking
and as with all of the good and free ideas-they are too good to be true

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November 01, 2017, 06:36:51 AM
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In Reality, There is an app for Bitcoin Mining in Android Phone. But, I never Heard That it is Actually Paying.

Before, I came Through Online Mining And I search For it Many Times,
and At Last, I Didn't found any Reliable,

I also Download Software apps In Playstore, Bitcoin Miners,
Also, Waste of Time.

And, The Worst case is It can Make your Phone Bootloop.


I feel the same old discussion coming up... Yes, there are apps out there that are able to do a sha256d hash of a block header while incrementing a nonce...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.justanothertry.bitcoinminer&hl=en
If you start reading the replys, the first reply actually indicating a hashrate was a guy who go ~6kh/s on a "Snapdragon 801". Other hashrates indicated were ~3kh/s, 2.7 kh/s,...

There are 7.600.000.000 people in the world. If they all had a relatively decent cellphone hashing at 6000 h/s (6kh/s), the total world population's hashrate would be 4.560.000.000.000 h/s

One single antminer S9 hashes at 14.000.000.000.000 hashes/second
4.560.000.000.000 / 14.000.000.000.000 = 0.32

This means that every person in the world should have 3 cellphones mining 24/7 with such an app to have the same hashrate as a single antminer S9

So, in conclusion, are there apps that can mine BTC... Theoretically, yes, there are apps that mine bitcoin. It's also possible to write an excel sheet that mines bitcoin, or you can mine bitcoin using pen and paper... However, in reality, the odds are so small i personally think it's better to say such a thing is impossible. If you tell people there are apps that mine bitcoin, it will only inspire them to run such an app, burn a lot of power, burn their phone, get nothing in return. By saying it's impossible, (hopefully) you don't give them crazy idears.



I feel the same with the two of you. There is no legit app for mining bitcoin. It always reset when you're already close to their withdrawal threshold. I hate those apps.
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November 01, 2017, 05:07:06 PM
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can i use my phone to mined

Please, read the thread before making these kind of replies. It has been stated clearly that you cannot mine using a cellphone.

as funny as it sounds,you can
not bitcoins and not mine but nevertheless Smiley

disclaimer: not associated or promoting any of these,not sure they are working too
but....    

sweatcoins:  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.sweatco.app
bitwalking: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bitwalking.bitwalking

the idea is that users get coins for exercising or running or just walking
and as with all of the good and free ideas-they are too good to be true

I haven't read the whitepaper of either of those coins, altough i seriously doubt they're using a POW algorithm that gives an edge to a mobile CPU. I can be wrong, but i seriously doubt it.

There used to be a couple of coins that had the same idear. Mangocoinz was one of them. IIRC, the coin was pre-mined by it's creator, and he created an app that would give you a portion of the premined coins for running the app on your cellphone while walking. It was rumoured that you mined mangocoinz with your cellphone, while in reality it was completely premined.

Like i said, i haven't read the whitepapers of sweatcoins and bitwalking, so i could be wrong here, but i'm assuming they have the same kind of deal. Either that, or the creator invented an unconventional POW algorithm, and he refuses to share the sourcecode, so it can only be mined using the binaries he/she is providing (that is a different theory to pull this one off).

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I haven't read their whitepapers either,I found out about bitwalking from the news section here
it was a year ago or so,the idea sounded nice-I wanted to lose weight and start to exercise myself
so getting paid for that was appealing Smiley
judging from the description they use POW algo but it was connected to their pedometer or activity app
i.e. you have smartphone on you,wear a fitness bracelet or a heart rate monitor or similar and you get paid when you do some phisical activity
but since there are plenty of smart guys out there it wasn't too hard to create some sort of a mechanical swinging thingy to simulate walking or exercising
also the money had to come from somewhere,most likely from all sorts of ads in the app so the coin's value was too low initially
to entice users to download and use the app
but the idea is good,its the implementation that is bad (usual)
if any brave soul here downloads and installs it and tries and then leaves his comments about it,would be greatly appreciated

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Fixed that for you Wink
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Non-specialized_hardware_comparison
A cortex A9 (a common cellphone cpu) hashes at 1 Mh/s ... Compare this with an S9 ASIC which hashes at 14000000 Mh/s. you'd need 14 million cellphones to have the equivalent of 1 Antminer S9. An S9 makes about $14/day (before power costs), so a cellphone would make $14/14.000.000 = $0.000001 /day... That's less than 40 cents per 1000 years. After you substract your power cost, the cellphone will give you negative profit (without a doubt).
superb explanation complete with complete calculation.. why there is still people that have tought that android in this case smarphone can be use for mining ! even super computer right now is have to face high and higher difficulties to mine and get good result ~_~ huft
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I don't think so. And even if there is any, they will probably be a waste of time. A smartphone cannot earn you a lot of any money by mining. People may create various applications naming them miners but they do this just to get some downloads for their applications but the applications do not generate any profit for the user. I have tried a lot of them already, and believe me, you better think of something else.

Fixed that for you Wink

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Non-specialized_hardware_comparison
A cortex A9 (a common cellphone cpu) hashes at 1 Mh/s ... Compare this with an S9 ASIC which hashes at 14000000 Mh/s. you'd need 14 million cellphones to have the equivalent of 1 Antminer S9. An S9 makes about $14/day (before power costs), so a cellphone would make $14/14.000.000 = $0.000001 /day... That's less than 40 cents per 1000 years. After you substract your power cost, the cellphone will give you negative profit (without a doubt).

Nice explanation sir,  meaning theres is no way to mine bitcoin in a smart phone.  Using a expensive mining rigs are so expensive to mined bitcoin for such a small reward of satoshi. Mining bitcoin now i think its not totally profitable unless you are a richman who have more money that want to experience what mining is and how its totally works.

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https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/30/samsung-galaxy-s5-bitcoin-mining-rig/

What do you say about this what Samsung did with couple of galaxy S5?
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https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/30/samsung-galaxy-s5-bitcoin-mining-rig/

What do you say about this what Samsung did with couple of galaxy S5?
I had already seen a similar article and gave my complete opinion about it, but since this article is actually showing the real numbers, i wanted to elaborate:
In my opinion, samsung engineers are looking for new and exiting things to do with their old phones, probably as a marketing stunt???

If you look at the picture showing the hashrate and the power usage, you see the following numbers:
A Galaxy S3 hashes at 2 kh/s while consuming 4 watts.

The YEARLY revenue WITHOUT power costs (but with a 1% pool fee and without mining fees) of such a setup would be:
(((((2000 * 12,5 * 600 * 65535) / 2^48) / 1452839779145) * 6 * 24) * 0.99) *365
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0,00000000013 BTC/year

That's correct, you'd have to mine 100 years with a galaxy S3 cellphone to actually mine 1 satoshi!

I see these trials as either failed experiments, marketing stunts or maybe samsung is giving their engineers the opportunity to learn about bitcoin so they can one day produce a profitable asic... But that's about it. It's nice to look at, it's good that they want to invest some time, but it's certainly not worth trying out for yourself.

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Is there any software mining for Android and which one is better

Minergate has a mine for mobile phones.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.minergate.miner&hl=en
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https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/30/samsung-galaxy-s5-bitcoin-mining-rig/

What do you say about this what Samsung did with couple of galaxy S5?
I had already seen a similar article and gave my complete opinion about it, but since this article is actually showing the real numbers, i wanted to elaborate:
In my opinion, samsung engineers are looking for new and exiting things to do with their old phones, probably as a marketing stunt???

If you look at the picture showing the hashrate and the power usage, you see the following numbers:
A Galaxy S3 hashes at 2 kh/s while consuming 4 watts.

The YEARLY revenue WITHOUT power costs (but with a 1% pool fee and without mining fees) of such a setup would be:
(((((2000 * 12,5 * 600 * 65535) / 2^48) / 1452839779145) * 6 * 24) * 0.99) *365
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0,00000000013 BTC/year

That's correct, you'd have to mine 100 years with a galaxy S3 cellphone to actually mine 1 satoshi!

I see these trials as either failed experiments, marketing stunts or maybe samsung is giving their engineers the opportunity to learn about bitcoin so they can one day produce a profitable asic... But that's about it. It's nice to look at, it's good that they want to invest some time, but it's certainly not worth trying out for yourself.

Thanks for this excellent explanation :-)
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November 07, 2017, 04:52:47 PM
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Mining with mobile devices isn't a smart idea. Your hashrate will be to low to earn any money. Apart from unprofitability, your battery would die really fast Smiley

 
is there a mining software for ios

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November 08, 2017, 12:06:23 PM
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If a laptop cannot mine effectively then iOS nor Android will be able to either. It is too competitive with the highest spec computer rigs.
Soon only super computers will be able to do it.
Although I do hope phones will be able to do it in the future as it would stop me from using my phone constantly.
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November 08, 2017, 12:24:18 PM
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If a laptop cannot mine effectively then iOS nor Android will be able to either. It is too competitive with the highest spec computer rigs.
Soon only super computers will be able to do it.
Although I do hope phones will be able to do it in the future as it would stop me from using my phone constantly.

This is a popular misconception... A supercomputer is allmost as bad as a normal computer mining-wise.
A supercomputer is basically a whole bunch of nodes, small servers that can perform a task in parrallel. Because there are 1000's of nodes working on the same task, the task is finished 1000's times faster than on a single server.

for example, the Tianhe-2 had 16.000 nodes with (in total) 32,000 Intel Xeon E5-2692 12C with 2.200 GHz 48,000 Xeon Phi 31S1P coprocessors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-2

I can only estimate the total hashrate, but it would be around
(32000 processors *66000000 hashes/sec) +  (48000 processors * 140000000 hashes/sec) = 8,8 Th/s
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Non-specialized_hardware_comparison#Intel
This is only an estimation, but i estimate the total hashrate of this supercomputer with both processors and coprocessors running at 100% to be around 8,8 Th/s,
A single antminer S9 hashes at 14 Th/s.

The S9 has a power draw of 1,4 Kw, and a cost of $1500
The supercomputer has a power draw of 24 MW (24.000 Kw) and a cost of $390.000.000

Now, which one would YOU run if you had to pick one of those two for the purpose of bitcoin mining?

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November 13, 2017, 06:24:34 PM
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BFGMiner can be compiled for Android, as pointless as it may be

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November 16, 2017, 05:34:04 AM
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When a high end normal pc cannot mine, how come android could mine??
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November 17, 2017, 07:28:58 AM
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Its honestly not worth mining on Android at the moment. You would be better off finding faucets or joining some Airdrops.

The miners that are out there drain your battery or clog your device and normally have very high payment thresholds to reach.

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