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August 15, 2013, 08:19:45 PM |
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Speculative nonsense, how much do you think someone with a few Avalon boxes and a bit of luck could do? I agree it is totally speculative to claim it is BFL, but it is more than a few Avalon boxes. Based on the rate they are hashing, if they are using Avalon boxes it would be between 50 and 100 of them. Looking at the dates of their "savings account" http://blockchain.info/address/16ygEoTjg7P5GJwLKTQd1UgqAGuF8bKVRc it does look like BFL pre-mining mini rigs. Nothing new here. Avalon has been doing this since January. Or someone broke sha256, mined 34 million and retired. And then sends it to 158mVoizfU3xPxGGchGtnsKSixGs9XTo6v which has received 98000 BTC since March this year. Pre-mining should be carried out on the test net. It's Avalon's address.
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Homo doctus is se semper divitias habet
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Ytterbium
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August 16, 2013, 09:39:25 AM |
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Probably just rich people buying and selling BTC person to person.
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bitcoiner49er
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August 16, 2013, 01:04:01 PM |
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Probably just rich people buying and selling BTC person to person. Why is it we will triple encrypt our wallets, cold store them in vaults, have paper backups, NEVER allow them to be online because we are paranoid of someone getting access. Yet, we see an OBVIOUS trail from a solo mining farm back to Avalon and someone thinks "Oh, just rich people buying and selling BTC..."
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August 16, 2013, 02:20:14 PM |
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Probably just rich people buying and selling BTC person to person. Why is it we will triple encrypt our wallets, cold store them in vaults, have paper backups, NEVER allow them to be online because we are paranoid of someone getting access. Yet, we see an OBVIOUS trail from a solo mining farm back to Avalon and someone thinks "Oh, just rich people buying and selling BTC..." Can you show the transactions going from a known Avalon address to/from a mining farm? The addresses I just showed don't go to or from any addresses with new coins generated.
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bitcoiner49er
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August 16, 2013, 03:32:50 PM |
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Why is it we will triple encrypt our wallets, cold store them in vaults, have paper backups, NEVER allow them to be online because we are paranoid of someone getting access. Yet, we see an OBVIOUS trail from a solo mining farm back to Avalon and someone thinks "Oh, just rich people buying and selling BTC..." Can you show the transactions going from a known Avalon address to/from a mining farm? The addresses I just showed don't go to or from any addresses with new coins generated. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227103.msg2945456#msg2945456
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Dougie (OP)
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August 16, 2013, 03:40:05 PM |
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Why is it we will triple encrypt our wallets, cold store them in vaults, have paper backups, NEVER allow them to be online because we are paranoid of someone getting access. Yet, we see an OBVIOUS trail from a solo mining farm back to Avalon and someone thinks "Oh, just rich people buying and selling BTC..." Can you show the transactions going from a known Avalon address to/from a mining farm? The addresses I just showed don't go to or from any addresses with new coins generated. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227103.msg2945456#msg2945456Good detective work. It makes me sad that Avalon would do this.
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August 16, 2013, 03:59:45 PM |
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Why is it we will triple encrypt our wallets, cold store them in vaults, have paper backups, NEVER allow them to be online because we are paranoid of someone getting access. Yet, we see an OBVIOUS trail from a solo mining farm back to Avalon and someone thinks "Oh, just rich people buying and selling BTC..." Can you show the transactions going from a known Avalon address to/from a mining farm? The addresses I just showed don't go to or from any addresses with new coins generated. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227103.msg2945456#msg2945456Damn -- Avalon -- biggest scam ever.
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August 29, 2013, 06:05:36 AM |
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Why is it we will triple encrypt our wallets, cold store them in vaults, have paper backups, NEVER allow them to be online because we are paranoid of someone getting access. Yet, we see an OBVIOUS trail from a solo mining farm back to Avalon and someone thinks "Oh, just rich people buying and selling BTC..." Can you show the transactions going from a known Avalon address to/from a mining farm? The addresses I just showed don't go to or from any addresses with new coins generated. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227103.msg2945456#msg2945456Good detective work. It makes me sad that Avalon would do this. But didn't Avalon originally say they wanted to be a mining farm, and the batch sales were just a side project?
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August 29, 2013, 06:37:19 PM |
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^^^ I don't think so. As far as I recall, Yifu said that created Avalon to spread hashing power around, and that they were not mining themselves at all, even though it was tempting.
I guess he caved in the end?
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August 29, 2013, 07:33:29 PM |
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Why is it we will triple encrypt our wallets, cold store them in vaults, have paper backups, NEVER allow them to be online because we are paranoid of someone getting access. Yet, we see an OBVIOUS trail from a solo mining farm back to Avalon and someone thinks "Oh, just rich people buying and selling BTC..." Can you show the transactions going from a known Avalon address to/from a mining farm? The addresses I just showed don't go to or from any addresses with new coins generated. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227103.msg2945456#msg2945456Damn -- Avalon -- biggest scam ever. Or... purchasing from Avalon. Let us not cast aspersions. Let it go.
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niko
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August 29, 2013, 07:55:21 PM |
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It is sad that in August 2013 there still are people who believe that IP addresses on blockchain.info have anything to do with the miner who mined the block.
You don't need Tor, VPNs, or whatever to prevent blockchain.info from publicizing your IP. You simply don't let your node connect to them. The Bitcoin network will do the anonymization for you, at least when it comes to blockchain.info.
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They're there, in their room. Your mining rig is on fire, yet you're very calm.
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NewLiberty
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August 29, 2013, 10:38:15 PM |
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It is sad that in August 2013 there still are people who believe that IP addresses on blockchain.info have anything to do with the miner who mined the block.
You don't need Tor, VPNs, or whatever to prevent blockchain.info from publicizing your IP. You simply don't let your node connect to them. The Bitcoin network will do the anonymization for you, at least when it comes to blockchain.info.
And as you might imagine, this miner wishes to remain anonymous. Chasing after geese is fine if it amuses you, but making accusations of lies against the innocent geese you find along the way while doing so is not part of the game. Play nice.
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niko
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August 30, 2013, 03:32:13 AM |
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It is sad that in August 2013 there still are people who believe that IP addresses on blockchain.info have anything to do with the miner who mined the block.
You don't need Tor, VPNs, or whatever to prevent blockchain.info from publicizing your IP. You simply don't let your node connect to them. The Bitcoin network will do the anonymization for you, at least when it comes to blockchain.info.
And as you might imagine, this miner wishes to remain anonymous. Chasing after geese is fine if it amuses you, but making accusations of lies against the innocent geese you find along the way while doing so is not part of the game. Play nice. Exactly. This whole effort is futile, and also leads to unfounded accusations.
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They're there, in their room. Your mining rig is on fire, yet you're very calm.
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