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I was curious about the real inflation rate (=growth of the money supply) of major altcoins, in comparison to BTC. So I created this little "investigation" with the blockchain explorers. I took all major altcoins which were created more than 30 days ago, because in the case of very young coins the inflation rate would drop significantly in the next weeks (for this reason, BTB and FTC have the highest inflation in the table). Important: For the next issue in July, I will add the most popular coins of the recent "altcoin wave". I will consider only coins which are on at least 2 exchanges and with stable trade volume. If you want, you can give reasons which altcoin to add. But it will not be a poll, because it would be too easy to manipulate  Here is the list (in %), including an estimate for 365 day-inflation. (Updated 2013-06-26) Rank Coin 30 day 365 day Last 30-day Last Rank (projection)
1. BTE*# 0.316 3.8446 0.423 2 2. BTC 1.166 14.186 1.260 3 3. PPC+ 1.825 22.204 1.662 4 4. CNC*# 2.588 31.487 0.216 1 5. NVC+ 3.596 43.751 1.896 5 6. FRC 3.802 46.257 4.206 8 7. DVC 4.457 54.2268 4.716 9 8. LTC 4.930 59.9816 4.824 10 9. NMC 5.126 62.366 3.930 7 10. BQC 9.873 120.1215 9.921 11 11. TRC 10.927 132.945 12.642 12 12. BTB*+ 22.310 271.438 24.348 13 13. FTC* 25.850 314.508 2.922 6
* Young coins with less than 90 days of age. # Coins with a low block creation rate (BTE: last block 2013-05-31, CNC: about 5 blocks a day). Seems the difficulty is too high for the actual hashrate. In the case of BTE I took the 10 last days of May because there were no blocks in June (dead?) + = Coins with Proof-of-Stake (PoS blocks have a very low reward compared to PoW blocks)
Note: The "Last-30-day" data is the 30-day-projection of the last issue from June 6, which only considered 10 days, so it's not entirely comparable. Raw data and calculations: Block Date Tx Total coins
LTC 377791 2013-06-26 07:51:29 2 51.9 769.726 18889054.33222158 102.591 628.014 67.7511% 365833 2013-06-06 07:50:02 3 102.85992842 604.611 18291154.37222158 360041 2013-05-27 07:53:01 4 77.72225458 595.662 18001554.37222158 887499.96 / 18001554.37222158 = 0.049301 = 4.9301
PPC 55162 2013-06-26 07:49:47 2 452.79 3.551 19411207.534292 51622 2013-06-06 07:49:56 1 431.95 287162.728 19169041.251295 49969 2013-05-27 07:46:53 2 11.42852 3.12 19063279.392969 347928.1413 / 19063279.392969 = 0.0182512218454 = 1.825
DVC 95035 2013-06-26 08:03:39 3 56703.73939588 1112956.137 4747570050 269.126 705.194 92412 2013-06-06 07:50:41 1 50000 933935.191 4616420050 90983 2013-05-27 07:50:19 1 50000 161536.457 4544970050 202600000 / 4544970050 = 0.0445767513914 = 4.457
TRC 149864 2013-06-26 07:57:04 1 20 5370.192 2997329.85549999 140795 2013-06-06 07:49:23 1 20 21329.264 2815949.85549999 135101 2013-05-27 07:47:26 3 20.3674 23505.217 2702069.85549999 295260 / 2702069.85549999 = 0.109271786368 = 10.927
FRC***
29694 2013-06-26 08:44:11 2 794.45690271 42796.461 21817073.59229203 28993 2013-06-06 07:38:33 8 36108.81603019 25876.102 21312585.55440119 28582 2013-05-27 07:50:07 4 16823.79062205 46204.801 21017829.81493085 799243.7773 / 21017829.81493085 = 0.0380269411418 = 3.802
NVC 28724 2013-06-26 07:55:48 2 10.76 0.044 408761.73367 25131 2013-06-06 07:45:17 2 1.04838 0.03 397068.666061 23392 2013-05-27 07:56:35 2 10.310396 0.026 394571.727885 14190.005785 / 394571.727885 = 0.03596305762 = 3.596
BQC
467023 2013-06-26 07:50:09 1 42 0.543 19614991.2 439112 2013-06-06 07:49:50 5 465.2565143 0.941 18442732 425054 2013-05-27 07:50:53 1 42 0.811 17852307.2 1762684 / 17852307.2 = 0.0987370416749 = 9.873
FTC*
41713 2013-06-26 07:49:37 1 200 97.604 8339950 33457 2013-06-06 08:04:43 50 13385.19007571 94.087 6691450 33134 2013-05-27 07:49:43 3 969.01333213 133.065 6626850 1713100 / 6626850 = 0.258508944672 = 25.850
BTE**
18381 2013-06-26 09:53:12 2 5019.00950002 35794.675 919100 18349 2013-06-06 06:23:27 4 2598.74913 35794.675 917500 18323 2013-05-27 07:16:06 32 8382.03671721 35794.675 916200 2900 / 916200 = 0.0031652477625 = 0.316
BTB* 12941 2013-06-26 07:45:04 1 0.18789 5.828 3812.435527 10386 2013-06-06 07:53:58 2 0.197887 10.981 3370.800687 8911 2013-05-27 07:48:13 1 0.172421 10.237 3117.00866 695.426867 / 3117.00866 = 0.223107133427 = 22.310
CNC** 59536 2013-06-26 08:10:05 7 56946.53518323 41.821 5239218 58076 2013-06-06 04:03:02 6 2500.5952416 41.821 5110738 58034 2013-05-27 16:07:47 24 25597.18144108 41.821 5107042 132176 / 5107042 = 0.0258811264916 = 2.588
BTC (for comparison): 2012-06-26 11318500 2012-06-06 11234975 2012-05-27 11187975 130525 / 11187975 = 0.0116665437669 = 1.166
Namecoin 26/06/13 8:13 - Block 118726 = 5936300 06/06/13 7:50 - Block 114420 = 5721000 27/05/13 7:49 - Block 112936 = 5646800 289500 / 5646800 = 0.0512679747822 = 5.126
Sources: http://cryptocoinexplorer.com http://blockchain.info (BTC) http://explorer.litecoin.org (LTC) http://devtome.com (DVC) http://explorer.dot-bit.org (NMC)
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June 06, 2013, 11:06:03 PM |
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Great list. Keep us updated in future too.
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June 07, 2013, 03:15:35 AM |
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Thanks. I will see what I can do, perhaps I can write a script to automatically calculate the inflation, because manually it takes its time.
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June 07, 2013, 06:36:44 AM |
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Can you show the difference in the Novacoin inflation rate between 0.4.1 and 0.4.2?
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June 07, 2013, 10:21:18 AM |
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I can compare the 10 last days before 2013-05-19 when 0.4.2 was released (I hope date is right?) Inflation in NVC 0.4.1 seems to have been significantly higher: 21934 2013-05-19 07:58:32 2 3.534864 0.023 391837.908362 20163 2013-05-09 08:00:22 2 22.64 0.026 387501.904405 4336 / 387501 = 0.01118
1,118 % inflation / 10d before 2013-05-19 and 0,632 % / 10d after the update.
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June 07, 2013, 03:48:42 PM |
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I can compare the 10 last days before 2013-05-19 when 0.4.2 was released (I hope date is right?) Inflation in NVC 0.4.1 seems to have been significantly higher: 21934 2013-05-19 07:58:32 2 3.534864 0.023 391837.908362 20163 2013-05-09 08:00:22 2 22.64 0.026 387501.904405 4336 / 387501 = 0.01118
1,118 % inflation / 10d before 2013-05-19 and 0,632 % / 10d after the update. Coin market cap shows there only being 287,413 NVC right now. Do your numbers here include the 100,000 that were burnt?
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June 07, 2013, 04:49:27 PM |
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Yes, I think they are included. Source is cryptocoinexplorer.com which shows all Novacoins created since the genesis block.
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June 10, 2013, 12:00:16 AM |
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I have added Namecoin. I think the calculation is nearly accurate although the NMC block explorer doesn't show the total NMC amount at every block. Now all major alt-coins are present.
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June 10, 2013, 12:54:40 AM |
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Thanks for putting this together, really interesting info.
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June 26, 2013, 07:51:23 PM |
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Updated the list to 2013-06-26. Now we have the first real 30-day inflation data. 365-day value is still a simple projection.
Some things I noted:
- BTE is still in a problematic situation as the difficulty seems still way to high for the actual hashrate. So it has still the "lowest inflation", but only because of the problems with the blockchain. - CNC has improved a bit, but still has few blocks per day. - FTC has resolved the hi-diff-slowdown and is now the coin with the highest inflation. That is normal because it's the second-youngest coin in the list. Bitbar is a bit less inflationary because of the proof-of-stake design. - NVC has a significantly higher inflation rate now. That could be related to the higher PoS interest rate implemented in NVC 0.4.2. Interesting to observe how this continues.
The other coins have about the same inflation as in the last issue: - A low-inflation group with BTC, PPC and (for now) BTE and CNC - a mid-inflation group with LTC, NMC, FRC and DVC (now NVC could be added to this group) - a high-inflation group with BQC and the younger coins.
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June 30, 2013, 07:07:18 PM |
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It's really interesting to see all the altcoins have higher inflation rates than BTC.
It occurs to me that 14% inflation rate is already way too high . . . do we really need $360,000 worth of new coins for miners every day?
An altcoin with a low inflation rate would be interesting.
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June 30, 2013, 07:22:48 PM |
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VERY interesting info, especially for us. Thanks d5000 
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July 01, 2013, 09:51:30 PM |
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Thank you for collecting the data. After 3 years Freicoin will have the lowest monetary inflation at 0%. Does anybody knows if there's any coin having its maximum supply issued sooner? It's really interesting to see all the altcoins have higher inflation rates than BTC.
It occurs to me that 14% inflation rate is already way too high . . . do we really need $360,000 worth of new coins for miners every day?
Of course not. If that were the case btc wouldn't make it without the initial subsidy. That's why we wanted to separate "mining for security" from "mining as issuance mechanism" on Freicoin. The paperwork for the foundation is still keeping us back, but we hope that many interesting things can be done with the seigniorage instead of "hiring more security than we need". To me matching donations (say giving away 2% of the value donors have given to the project they've chosen) for crowdfunding projects is the most promising option in my opinion. It will allow the foundation to distribute coins without having to decide how much goes to each project: donors will vote with their pockets. The main point is...you don't need to turn all the seignoriage into heat for the currency to be profitable to mine or secure. And the challenge is finding new ways of distributing the coins different from mining (although SCIP will make mining less wasteful in the future). We will be able to help cure cancer while securing the network after all.
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July 02, 2013, 05:25:27 AM |
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After 3 years Freicoin will have the lowest monetary inflation at 0%. Does anybody knows if there's any coin having its maximum supply issued sooner?
Looks like Infinitecoin (misnomer) will have the vast majority of its coins issued after only 6 months. The paperwork for the foundation is still keeping us back, but we hope that many interesting things can be done with the seigniorage instead of "hiring more security than we need". Aren't you worried all those Freicoins will have a corrupting influence on the foundation? What keeps it honest?
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July 02, 2013, 06:13:40 AM |
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Thanks for the data, it would be nice to have YAC added here, according to http://coinmarketcap.com/ it's the coin with highest market cap of all the latest coins ATM.
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July 02, 2013, 10:16:31 AM |
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After 3 years Freicoin will have the lowest monetary inflation at 0%. Does anybody knows if there's any coin having its maximum supply issued sooner?
Looks like Infinitecoin (misnomer) will have the vast majority of its coins issued after only 6 months. Interesting, I thought it didn't have a cap. The paperwork for the foundation is still keeping us back, but we hope that many interesting things can be done with the seigniorage instead of "hiring more security than we need". Aren't you worried all those Freicoins will have a corrupting influence on the foundation? What keeps it honest? Yes, we're worried and that's why we're working on solutions in which the foundation doesn't take much direct decisions, only deciding which projects are elegible to receive funds, and how much goes to each distribution mechanism. There's a proposal to use proof-of-stake to vote on the later. Anyway the foundation distribution will be completely transparent (this is possible with blockchain currencies, an state publishing all its expenditures to the detail couldn't be this transparent with fiat): anyone will be able to audit it. Therefore in the event of foundation corruption it will be quickly known by all users, who will create a hardfork stopping the flow of funds to the foundation and even freezing the funds it has or cancelling some late payments. In that case, either freicoin will be issued in more than 3 years or the subsidy to miners function will change.
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July 02, 2013, 10:35:58 AM |
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Yes, we're worried and that's why we're working on solutions in which the foundation doesn't take much direct decisions, only deciding which projects are elegible to receive funds, and how much goes to each distribution mechanism. There's a proposal to use proof-of-stake to vote on the later.
Proof-of-stake voting is a move in the right direction IMNSHO. Perhaps you could do away with the foundation altogether and let PoS voting decide where to allocate the funds. Therefore in the event of foundation corruption it will be quickly known by all users, who will create a hardfork stopping the flow of funds to the foundation
A fork would be messy. Perhaps you could use the PoS voting to elect a Freicoin address to receive the funds. If the owners of the currency believed the foundation to be corrupt, or incompetent or whatever, other organizations could nominate their own Freicoin address, and coin owners could vote for whichever they thought best.
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July 02, 2013, 10:51:31 AM |
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We've explored that possibility, but then I don't see what would prevent people from sending the coins to themselves, much like ppcoin does. Effectively disabling demurrage. You're welcome to write your own proposal for distribution on this subforum: http://www.freicoin.org/freicoin-foundation-f15.htmlBut the proof of stake voting (often reffered to in our forums as "republicoin") needs more development and we want to start with simpler mechanisms like a simple faucet, increasing the donations to crowdfunding projects approved by the foundation, indirectly subsidizing voluntary computing projects (often called "curecoin"), etc. Of course this is my personal opinion and other people in the community may see things differently. The goal is to experiment with different mechanisms that are reasonable for must of the community. Anyway, this is getting pretty off-topic so you may want to keep discussing this in freicoin's forum or in one of the several threads dedicated to the foundation here in bitcointalk (or start your own and pm me).
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July 02, 2013, 03:38:18 PM |
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We've explored that possibility, but then I don't see what would prevent people from sending the coins to themselves
I'd recommend run off voting - you'd need to secure 51% higher preferences to target a bounty to yourself. It might be that many users could collaborate to get 51% to support a bounty that simply distributed it to those who voted for it . . but you'd still need 51% higher preferences. And such behaviour would cause the value of the coin to drop . . it wouldn't be in the owners enlightened self interest to do so.
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July 06, 2013, 09:30:38 PM |
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It's really interesting to see all the altcoins have higher inflation rates than BTC.
It occurs to me that 14% inflation rate is already way too high . . . do we really need $360,000 worth of new coins for miners every day?
An altcoin with a low inflation rate would be interesting.
That's only because all altcoins are very young, the oldest surviving one, Namecoin, is from April 2011. Most cryptocoins share the design principle to have a declining inflation. So inflation of the older altcoins in 2-3 years will be significantly lower. The only way I see to get a low-inflation coin in the first years would be a massive premine or a very fastly descending inflation curve which is essentially the same because both would favour early adopters in a disproportionate way.
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