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June 07, 2013, 01:24:20 AM
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I need some help.

My power strips, they keep popping on me especially when the ambient temperatur gets hot. I am currently running 5 dedicated rigs but it seems that the usual at-home power strips are not cutting it for the 5 beast machines. I would have to physically go to the power strip and turn the switch back on but my circuit breaker didnt trip just the strips. I am guessing that the strips cannot handle the power draw thats needed for the 5 rigs and that I would need a higher, heavy duty power strip of some sort. My questions is can anyone here thats running multiple machines recommend a good strip that can power all my rigs (obviously with the intention and flexibility to add more in the future). I really dont want to dangle a bunch of power strips all over the place...


~I am currently using this;

http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-BE112230-08-12-Outlet-Protector-Protection/dp/B000J2EN4S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370567940&sr=8-2&keywords=belkin+12+outlet+surge+protector




~I am currently looking at these;

http://www.digital-loggers.com/epcr3.html

http://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html

^^^ would these work and solve my problem?



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June 07, 2013, 01:42:00 AM
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I just get the $13 metal surge protectors at walmart. How many rigs do you have per surge protector? You might think about using multiple surge protectors. Maybe even 1 per rig. Also make sure you use the thick power cable that came with the power supply, the dinky standard cables get hot and can cause fires.

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June 07, 2013, 01:51:06 AM
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Try something like this:  http://www.mcmaster.com/#=n2yo51

Well that link didn't work at all..  Just search for 15A rack mount surge protector.

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June 07, 2013, 02:47:18 AM
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How many rigs do you have per circuit and how much power does each one use?

I think you'd most likely find that with "better" power strips, you'd either see no difference, or you'd start tripping the main breaker instead.
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June 07, 2013, 05:06:28 AM
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I just get the $13 metal surge protectors at walmart. How many rigs do you have per surge protector? You might think about using multiple surge protectors. Maybe even 1 per rig. Also make sure you use the thick power cable that came with the power supply, the dinky standard cables get hot and can cause fires.


Currently I have a Belkin 12 outlet surge protector and I have 4 rigs and a network switch connected to it. Once I plug in the 5th rig and start mining the strip will trip a couple of minutes after. I am currently running the 5th rig on a second power strip.

I want to avoid using so many power strips. Preferably like a heavy-duty strip that can handle all the rigs and maybe more in the future if needed.

Also all the ATX cables are the thick kind i believe they are 14 awg. I will double check again tomorrow morning and make sure. If not i will replace them. thanks in advance.

Try something like this:  http://www.mcmaster.com/#=n2yo51


Well that link didn't work at all..  Just search for 15A rack mount surge protector.

the link is to some bolts, nuts?, and pipe fittings???

i was looking at these:

http://www.digital-loggers.com/epcr3.html

http://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html

they are data rack PDUs. they say they have 15A per outlet and also have network controllability which is a plus when you have stalled rigs. I just want to make sure if they would suffice and provide enough power with out tripping. if anyone can confirm this it would be great.

How many rigs do you have per circuit and how much power does each one use?


I think you'd most likely find that with "better" power strips, you'd either see no difference, or you'd start tripping the main breaker instead.

this is also another thing that I am worried about. i think that at worse case scenario i would have to call an electrician to have the electrical box looked at and maybe upgrade to commercial breakers that can handle a higher load. But the rigs are running in my garage that had 3 commercial grade (HUGE) refrigerators running in there 24/7 for a couple of years. so  i believe its ample power....
 
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June 07, 2013, 06:11:29 AM
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If your power strip is rated for 15A on a 15A circuit then the power strip will trip instead of the breaker when you exceed that 15A load.
If you use a power strip rated for 20A on a 15A circuit, then the power strip won't trip if you exceed 15A, the breaker will.

Good quality power strips basically have a built in functionality that makes them act like a circuit breaker if you exceed the load. If you're sure the 5 rigs don't exceed the load for the circuit you're using, just make sure to get a power strip with a rating high enough to handle that.

Also, if you're on 120V (i.e. North America), then 15A is 1800 Watts and 20Amps is 2400 Watts.

Most household circuits are 15A, some are 20A. You don't want to exceed that on one circuit, even if your circuit breaker doesn't trip because the wiring in the walls of your house is almost definitely not rated for more than 20Amps and you will have a fire hazard on your hands.

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June 07, 2013, 01:42:30 PM
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If your power strip is rated for 15A on a 15A circuit then the power strip will trip instead of the breaker when you exceed that 15A load.
If you use a power strip rated for 20A on a 15A circuit, then the power strip won't trip if you exceed 15A, the breaker will.

Good quality power strips basically have a built in functionality that makes them act like a circuit breaker if you exceed the load. If you're sure the 5 rigs don't exceed the load for the circuit you're using, just make sure to get a power strip with a rating high enough to handle that.

Also, if you're on 120V (i.e. North America), then 15A is 1800 Watts and 20Amps is 2400 Watts.

Most household circuits are 15A, some are 20A. You don't want to exceed that on one circuit, even if your circuit breaker doesn't trip because the wiring in the walls of your house is almost definitely not rated for more than 20Amps and you will have a fire hazard on your hands.



thank you

i am thinking since i am still running the 5th rig on the same circuit breaker just a different power strip I think it should be fine.
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June 07, 2013, 02:06:25 PM
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5 rigs on one strip does sound like quite a bit(especially for a single outlet since older houses are usually only built with 15amp breakers and outlets) however a 20 amp power strip like this one is what i used when i built a "mini rack" to run all of my rigs in one place(granted i only had 4)
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-RS1215-20-Rackmount-Outlet/dp/B00006B833/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1370614015&sr=1-5&keywords=20+amp+power+strip

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June 07, 2013, 02:25:56 PM
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If your power strip is rated for 15A on a 15A circuit then the power strip will trip instead of the breaker when you exceed that 15A load.
If you use a power strip rated for 20A on a 15A circuit, then the power strip won't trip if you exceed 15A, the breaker will.

Good quality power strips basically have a built in functionality that makes them act like a circuit breaker if you exceed the load. If you're sure the 5 rigs don't exceed the load for the circuit you're using, just make sure to get a power strip with a rating high enough to handle that.

Also, if you're on 120V (i.e. North America), then 15A is 1800 Watts and 20Amps is 2400 Watts.

Most household circuits are 15A, some are 20A. You don't want to exceed that on one circuit, even if your circuit breaker doesn't trip because the wiring in the walls of your house is almost definitely not rated for more than 20Amps and you will have a fire hazard on your hands.



thank you

i am thinking since i am still running the 5th rig on the same circuit breaker just a different power strip I think it should be fine.

Your "thinking"? This is not something you should be thinking about. You should know whether or not you are putting to much load on the circuit. Get a Kil-A-Watt or similar device and find out what the load is before you start a fire. Also make sure the breaker is rated high enough, and running a 15A break at 14-15 amps is dangerous.
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June 07, 2013, 03:25:56 PM
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If your power strip is rated for 15A on a 15A circuit then the power strip will trip instead of the breaker when you exceed that 15A load.
If you use a power strip rated for 20A on a 15A circuit, then the power strip won't trip if you exceed 15A, the breaker will.

Good quality power strips basically have a built in functionality that makes them act like a circuit breaker if you exceed the load. If you're sure the 5 rigs don't exceed the load for the circuit you're using, just make sure to get a power strip with a rating high enough to handle that.

Also, if you're on 120V (i.e. North America), then 15A is 1800 Watts and 20Amps is 2400 Watts.

Most household circuits are 15A, some are 20A. You don't want to exceed that on one circuit, even if your circuit breaker doesn't trip because the wiring in the walls of your house is almost definitely not rated for more than 20Amps and you will have a fire hazard on your hands.



thank you

i am thinking since i am still running the 5th rig on the same circuit breaker just a different power strip I think it should be fine.

Your "thinking"? This is not something you should be thinking about. You should know whether or not you are putting to much load on the circuit. Get a Kil-A-Watt or similar device and find out what the load is before you start a fire. Also make sure the breaker is rated high enough, and running a 15A break at 14-15 amps is dangerous.

Load you breakers at 80% max. So, if you have 15 amp breakers, at most draw 12 amps from them. Just feel the plug on your power strip, I imagine it is quite warm.
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June 07, 2013, 04:17:44 PM
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why are you putting 5 rigs, which probably pulls about 30-40 amps, on a power strip only good for 15 amps? and you wonder why they pop...

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June 07, 2013, 04:20:06 PM
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Not trying to hijack the thread (much) but I've had a similar problem. However, this is only one rig on one power strip. According to Kill-a-watt it's pulling about 1380 Watts and 11.88 Amps. The power strip says it is rated for 15 Amps but I've had it pop twice now over the course of several days. It's only when I pull enough power it seems (tweaking scrypt mining).

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June 07, 2013, 05:15:14 PM
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Not trying to hijack the thread (much) but I've had a similar problem. However, this is only one rig on one power strip. According to Kill-a-watt it's pulling about 1380 Watts and 11.88 Amps. The power strip says it is rated for 15 Amps but I've had it pop twice now over the course of several days. It's only when I pull enough power it seems (tweaking scrypt mining).

That sounds like it's aged(or was inexpensive) and isn't operating at full rated capacity, to be fair though 1380 watts is getting close to that 15 amp rating (depending on exact line voltage)

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June 07, 2013, 05:42:48 PM
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That sounds like it's aged(or was inexpensive) and isn't operating at full rated capacity, to be fair though 1380 watts is getting close to that 15 amp rating (depending on exact line voltage)
It was just something I picked up at an ACE hardware store. This is the one.

Is there a recommended brand or model? I'd obviously like something that can handle close to the 15 amp rating. There's a bunch of Belkins on Amazon with decent ratings but I don't know how many people are using them with this much power.

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June 07, 2013, 10:07:05 PM
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Is there a recommended brand or model? I'd obviously like something that can handle close to the 15 amp rating. There's a bunch of Belkins on Amazon with decent ratings but I don't know how many people are using them with this much power.

APC is usually pretty reliable.
http://www.amazon.com/APC-Essential-SurgeArrest-7-outlet/dp/B00009KYCN/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370642197&sr=8-1&keywords=apc+power+strip

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June 08, 2013, 03:54:55 AM
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thank you everyone for the advise.

i will start making changes right away

i will purchase this;

http://www.digital-loggers.com/epcr3.html


seems to have a voltage monitor built in along with network controllability
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June 08, 2013, 04:15:21 AM
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I love the big red button.

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I love the big red button.

haha agreed!

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June 08, 2013, 11:59:02 AM
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i just got the right amount of sockets and the  right wiring and trips ( i have 8 trips at 20a each (240v ) puling less than 13a per trip )

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June 08, 2013, 01:49:51 PM
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i just got the right amount of sockets and the  right wiring and trips ( i have 8 trips at 20a each (240v ) puling less than 13a per trip )

how many machines do you have connected to each strip?

would you be kind enough to provide a link to what kind of strips you have?


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