You're all terrorists....

[greyhawk]

Whose reality? 

[ktttn]

I've literally belly bumped with a DHS fatass in a riot.
They know who I am. If they busted down this door and carted me off to gitmo or a fema camp, an eyelash I would not bat.
I'm pretty sure I am on the no fly list, and I'm just a nonviolent penniless hipster homebum.
PBJTIME.GIF

[yocko06]

I think you need to hurt someone to be a terrorist don't you? stupid title!
I know for people1 i am the most remote thing from a terrorist you can get and i have been in bitcoin for a long time now.
Bitcoin is about helping the people of the world not hurting them. It's has no boarders, religion, government, or organisation. Yes there are people who will use bitcoin for the wrong thing but we are people, there will always be people who will abuse.
Bitcoin will not be stopped now, the idea is out and governments who don't like it know it won't be stopped. the only way they can deal with it from here is regulate the exchanges and make them agents of the law.

Love me or hate for saying this but it is a good thing for bitcoin.  It will get the word using it and excepting it.

[nameface]

Whose reality? 

Nice question. We might as well make this thread entertaining

I select the real reality.

[greyhawk]

Bitcoin will not be stopped now, the idea is out and governments who don't like it know it won't be stopped.

Let's assume for a second here a government let's say the US would want to stop bitcoin.

What makes you think Bitcoin doesn't die a horrible death as soon as the heads and mouths of bitcoin get invited to a free vacation in Guantanamo for supporting terrorists? Think Ver, Versennes, Andresen, Karpeles, etc. etc. You think Bitcoin keeps going on when the movers and shakers are removed? "But but others will take their place!" Yes, they will. On the waterboard.

[greyhawk]

I select the real reality.

Well, philosophically people have been search for this "real" reality for thousands of years. Haven't found it yet. 

[Lethn]

The U.S government can outlaw all they like, it doesn't mean they can enforce it, filesharing for instance has technically been illegal for years now yet it's still going strong, I suspect Bitcoin is going to be the same, all of this is just simply working in the favour of cryptocurrencies.

[nameface]

I select the real reality.

Well, philosophically people have been search for this "real" reality for thousands of years. Haven't found it yet. 

Hmm right... Anyways, that's irrelevant. It's still the one I want to consider.

[btceic]

Whose reality? 

got to say it,
I reject your reality and substitue my own

[greyhawk]

Whose reality? 

got to say it,
I reject your reality and substitue my own

Oh GOD! I'm MELTING! I'M MEEEELTING!

[aigeezer]

I thinks that only applies if you're social life depends on the use of those company's products. That's why I switched to Duck Duck Go for web search. Lavabit for email. And now only use VPN for internet browsing. The only thing that I'm exposed with would be facebook but I don't even have any personal info on there besides my name and birthday. Though FB always tires to get me to include more info "about myself".

Thanks for that. I see DuckDuckGo uses a script, according to NoScript. Do you happen to know what that's about?

Edit: I'm looking at lavabit now also. Looks promising. You wouldn't believe how many "secure email" places I've used over the years, with terrible results such as the mad scramble to reroute mail when they went out of business. This one is clearly different. Open source - nice. This item in their "philosophy" page gives me pause though:  "Lavabit adamantly protects the privacy of its users. Lavabit will only release private information if legally compelled by the courts in accordance with the United States Constitution." I don't see how they can avoid that, and it's obviously much better than the "share everything by default" approach, but it still means that if the US authorities get overzealous (hard to believe, I know), then there is no privacy after all. Is this as good as it gets today - total privacy unless "the authorities" want your data? Ironically, it is a good thing such a rule was not in place when the Federalist Papers were published anonymously in 1787-8 or there might be no US Constitution. But I digress.       

I don't mean to look a gift horse in the mouth, and thanks again for the names. I'm just trying to do the due diligence thing. 

[DoomDumas]

Ok, now that I've got your attention with an over dramatic sensationalized headline here is the real deal....

Soon the DHS will announce that anybody who owns, transfers, buys, trades, or settles debts with Bitcoins in the U.S. will be considered a person of interest in terrorist activities.   

That is exactly where I think we are going...Just give it time & with this new scandal literally breaking RIGHT now it further pushes the theory even closer to reality. With all the recent activities & Government involved shut downs of BTC & now this HUGE breaking news that websites like these including FB, Yahoo, Google, etc. are not only monitored but they have access to your accounts just makes it all worse...I can not believe the intrusiveness and abuse of power this U.S. Government has taken.  Soon well all have to be using TOR until that is outlawed... 

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/new-leak-feds-can-access-anything-in-your-google-facebook-and-more/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arstechnica%2Findex+%28Ars+Technica+-+All+content%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/29/nyregion/liberty-reserve-operators-accused-of-money-laundering.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://betabeat.com/2013/05/department-of-homeland-security-shuts-down-dwolla-payments-to-and-from-mt-gox/

The list goes on...

About PRISM, just dont tell me you were not suspecting such activities..

[DoomDumas]

I thinks that only applies if you're social life depends on the use of those company's products. That's why I switched to Duck Duck Go for web search. Lavabit for email. And now only use VPN for internet browsing. The only thing that I'm exposed with would be facebook but I don't even have any personal info on there besides my name and birthday. Though FB always tires to get me to include more info "about myself".

Duck Duck Go is a very good search engine, using it and a VPN should be concidered a must !

[MysteryMiner]

Happy not to live in evil empire USA. All they care is establishing total control over whole world and total slavery for it's own citizens. I'm happy that USSR dissolved but there must be someone who effectively counters USA both military and ideologically. I call for Greater Iran to be that opposition who keeps balance. Russians are evil too, China even worse, India too divided to be called single nation.

As for Bitcoins the day we all become labeled terrorists does not be a different day to me. Don't care. Probably I'm already labeled suspicious for running Tor node.

[marcus_of_augustus]

US govt is just a lame joke now ... "... land of the free, home of the brave."

... complete with widespread surveillance, press intimidation, IRS bully-boys, militarised police forces, detention without charge,
suspension of
 - presumption of innocence
 - trial by jury
 - secret courts
 - due process
 - speedy trials.

Unenforced financial crimes by powerful, two systems of justice ... we all know how this ends just that no one wants "to go there" yet.

Wait I think I saw a terrorist sneaking up that alley, didn't you see him too? I mean really you fell for that old line?

[Lauda]

That goverment shouldn't even be taken serious.
Why not buy an island make it a country of bitcoin, and we all move there 

[MysteryMiner]

That goverment shouldn't even be taken serious.
Why not buy an island make it a country of bitcoin, and we all move there  

Because USA will invade your bitcoin island to bring democracy, peace and anal syphilis.

[bezzeb]

I thinks that only applies if you're social life depends on the use of those company's products. That's why I switched to Duck Duck Go for web search. Lavabit for email. And now only use VPN for internet browsing. The only thing that I'm exposed with would be facebook but I don't even have any personal info on there besides my name and birthday. Though FB always tires to get me to include more info "about myself".

Duck Duck Go is a very good search engine, using it and a VPN should be concidered a must !

Duck to the duck to the go my nizzle.  Been using it for years, no internet bubbles here baby!  Quack!

[Elwar]

"You're all terrorists...."

your mom's a terrorist...



BOOM

[spike420211]

If any1 needz me,
I will be facing Mecca, praising Allah...