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October 18, 2017, 04:59:17 AM
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Bitcoin Gold No Premine

The Bitcoin Gold developers decided to include a premine at: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU

Therefore, I created an alternate client that removes the premine.

Bitcoin Gold (no premine) Client:
https://github.com/realBitcoinGold/BTCGPU

You can see the change here:
https://github.com/realBitcoinGold/BTCGPU/commit/623ec59bb35bd4f20031506a4314e45a1d53fa6f

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It will be up to the miners to decide what client to use.  If 51% of miners use the no-premine client, there will be no premine for Bitcoin Gold.

FAQ

Q: Is this a fork of Bitcoin Gold?
A: No, it is an alternative client.  If 51%+ (majority) of miners use the no-premine chain, there will be no premine.  If the majority of miners want a premine, they can use the premine chain and get a premine.

Q: Why should miners want a premine in Bitcoin Gold?
A: Use the premine chain if you want developers to get a premine.  Maybe it will incentivize them to work on the chain and make it more valuable.

Q: What if I try to mine blocks with the no-premine client, but more mining power wants a premine?
A: Your mined blocks will be invalid and forked off the main chain.  The same is true if you try mining with the pre-mine chain and the majority wants no-premine.


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October 18, 2017, 05:08:35 AM
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This is nice and all but they already have pool operators involved who will likely run the premined version so blocks will be found there - which is the deciding factor here (longest chain, not node count).

If you seriously want to throw a wrench into it and remove the premine it will take much more effort than changing a line, you'd need to convince pool operators, miners, exchanges, etc.

Avoid centralized, closed source, custodial crypto wallets and exchanges at all cost!
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October 18, 2017, 05:10:01 AM
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What is the actual purpose of this thread? Everyone knows Bitcoin gold will not get much attention apart from getting free coins to dump if there are suckers to buy it.
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October 18, 2017, 05:11:05 AM
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I'm not a miner.  It's up to miners to decide if they want to convince pool operators or not.

Miners vote with their GPU power, as they should.  I just want to help give miners a choice.

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October 18, 2017, 05:19:32 AM
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Bitcoin Gold No Premine

The Bitcoin Gold developers decided to include a premine at: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU

Therefore, I created an alternate client that removes the premine.

Bitcoin Gold (no premine) Client:
https://github.com/realBitcoinGold/BTCGPU

You can see the change here:
https://github.com/realBitcoinGold/BTCGPU/commit/623ec59bb35bd4f20031506a4314e45a1d53fa6f

It will be up to the miners to decide what client to use.  If 51% of miners use the no-premine client, there will be no premine for Bitcoin Gold.

FAQ

Q: Is this a fork of Bitcoin Gold?
A: No, it is an alternative client.  If 51%+ (majority) of miners use the no-premine chain, there will be no premine.  If the majority of miners want a premine, they can use the premine chain and get a premine.

Q: Why should miners want a premine in Bitcoin Gold?
A: Use the premine chain if you want developers to get a premine.  Maybe it will incentivize them to work on the chain and make it more valuable.

Q: What if I try to mine blocks with the no-premine client, but more mining power wants a premine?
A: Your mined blocks will be invalid and forked off the main chain.  The same is true if you try mining with the pre-mine chain and the majority wants no-premine.



i personality think team should be incentivized ... at least knowledge time and dedication should be appreciated .. this alone might be the driving force behind this project or the stopping point .
think wisely before choosing  
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October 18, 2017, 05:23:20 AM
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I like the concept of giving users another option.  Are there any developers that can review this code and validate it?

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October 18, 2017, 05:35:19 AM
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The crypto world is getting fucked actually with these forks around the corner every single month now (soon will be that way & in that rate).

Everyone wanna take a piece of the cake BUT they are ruining this game even if they didn't mean that (which i truly doubt).

From now on will be hearing of forks of those who forked a previous coin !!!

Started with BTC = Bitcoincash
Bitcoincash = something else...

Imagine what will happen next, unlimited forks of forked coins...
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October 18, 2017, 05:49:09 AM
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I do not quite understand, due to what your algorithm will gain popularity? After all, fork developers will propose their option - and it will be adopted a priori.
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October 18, 2017, 05:58:07 AM
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It will be up to the miners.  I've announced it on the Bitcoin Gold Slack channel and here.
I don't even see another thread for Bitcoin Gold here.

Also, it will be easy for someone to choose a client with a burst of Nicehash.

I do not quite understand, due to what your algorithm will gain popularity? After all, fork developers will propose their option - and it will be adopted a priori.

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October 18, 2017, 06:39:08 AM
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Bitcoin Gold No Premine

The Bitcoin Gold developers decided to include a premine at: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU

Therefore, I created an alternate client that removes the premine.

Bitcoin Gold (no premine) Client:
https://github.com/realBitcoinGold/BTCGPU

You can see the change here:
https://github.com/realBitcoinGold/BTCGPU/commit/623ec59bb35bd4f20031506a4314e45a1d53fa6f

It will be up to the miners to decide what client to use.  If 51% of miners use the no-premine client, there will be no premine for Bitcoin Gold.

FAQ

Q: Is this a fork of Bitcoin Gold?
A: No, it is an alternative client.  If 51%+ (majority) of miners use the no-premine chain, there will be no premine.  If the majority of miners want a premine, they can use the premine chain and get a premine.

Q: Why should miners want a premine in Bitcoin Gold?
A: Use the premine chain if you want developers to get a premine.  Maybe it will incentivize them to work on the chain and make it more valuable.

Q: What if I try to mine blocks with the no-premine client, but more mining power wants a premine?
A: Your mined blocks will be invalid and forked off the main chain.  The same is true if you try mining with the pre-mine chain and the majority wants no-premine.



This is awesome and should be getting more press. Has it been posted on reddit!

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October 18, 2017, 06:49:32 AM
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I will look into mining, looks interesting indeed.
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October 19, 2017, 12:26:40 AM
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Bitcoin Gold No Premine

The Bitcoin Gold developers decided to include a premine at: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU

Therefore, I created an alternate client that removes the premine.

Bitcoin Gold (no premine) Client:
https://github.com/realBitcoinGold/BTCGPU

You can see the change here:
https://github.com/realBitcoinGold/BTCGPU/commit/623ec59bb35bd4f20031506a4314e45a1d53fa6f

It will be up to the miners to decide what client to use.  If 51% of miners use the no-premine client, there will be no premine for Bitcoin Gold.

FAQ

Q: Is this a fork of Bitcoin Gold?
A: No, it is an alternative client.  If 51%+ (majority) of miners use the no-premine chain, there will be no premine.  If the majority of miners want a premine, they can use the premine chain and get a premine.

Q: Why should miners want a premine in Bitcoin Gold?
A: Use the premine chain if you want developers to get a premine.  Maybe it will incentivize them to work on the chain and make it more valuable.

Q: What if I try to mine blocks with the no-premine client, but more mining power wants a premine?
A: Your mined blocks will be invalid and forked off the main chain.  The same is true if you try mining with the pre-mine chain and the majority wants no-premine.



i personality think team should be incentivized ... at least knowledge time and dedication should be appreciated .. this alone might be the driving force behind this project or the stopping point .
think wisely before choosing  

well they are using Equihash, so how hard is it to use what Zcash has already done--not like they are recreating the wheel.  Even the same Equihash miners will work for Bitcoin Gold.  Instead of a premine they could take a certain percentage of the block reward for every coin mined--like Zcash did. 
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October 19, 2017, 12:37:31 AM
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No premine is a wonderful development, but 3rd parties reviewing the code will be great.

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October 19, 2017, 12:53:02 AM
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A client which may fork a non-existing (yet) network. wow.
A lot if rumors that btcg is a scam, and without a premine what interest will devs have to support the network? Zero!

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October 19, 2017, 01:40:12 AM
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I would love to help raise awareness for this. It will be a powerful message to groups that try to wrestle control over bitcoin. It's a lot harder than they think.
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October 19, 2017, 01:58:37 AM
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i think bitcoin gold can work after BTC split in hardfork
without spilit not real bitcoingold

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October 19, 2017, 09:16:14 AM
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https://twitter.com/BitcoinGhana/status/920941429039534080

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October 19, 2017, 09:22:29 AM
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i think bitcoin gold can work after BTC split in hardfork
without spilit not real bitcoingold

There is no REAL bitcoin gold, cause it's shit copy-pasted altcoin, created from air. Pure scam.
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October 20, 2017, 08:37:01 AM
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This is good, I will use this client  Cheesy
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October 25, 2017, 01:41:02 AM
Last edit: October 25, 2017, 02:19:53 AM by DarkStar1O9
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I got the qt wallet client running on linux with low connections, after get the original chain data onloaded it may be possible to start moving some more blocks, pools should follow soon after for either this version or the original proposal. My node ip is 118.172.109.106.


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