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October 18, 2017, 10:15:12 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPeTjYw4VWI



Watch this before you give him your money. This guy's a known scammer. He jumps from one business to another business, taking your money, without delivering what he promises. Part of his scam is his charm. He's charismatic and well spoken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPeTjYw4VWI

I've personally paid for his dolphin service and it was literally the same as his free signals.Every business in his video is fake. He uses other people's business and claims he wants to promote them, piggybacking off them.

The whale or dolphin club? You give him your BTC and he gives you the same signals as his free club.

Don't believe me? Check out this site on him. He's such a fraudster that he's not even allowed in the US anymore:

http://robertkim-scam-korean-american-conman.blogspot.ca/2014/11/korean-american-con-man-defrauds.html

"Unconsciously Incompetent Con-trepreneur? Robert Kim, Wan-Qi Kim, Bob Wan Kim, John Bobby Kim (사기꾼)
This is a site warning consumers that a US internet conman is now active in South Korea. Fraud is a deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain.

Do not under any circumstances work with this individual. He has evaded numerous lawsuits, taxes and consumer agencies in the US.

Robert Kim also known as Wan-Lai Chen, Wan-Qi Kim, Qi-Wan Kim, Robert Kim, Bob Kim, Bob Wan Kim, Bobby Kim or John Bobby Kim is widely accused across several consumer forums for fraud. The Korean-American has been labeled as an internet conman and has been active in South Korea for the past 4~5 years after escaping internet consumer backlash in the US for fraud complaints involving thousands of consumers over the past decade.

Kim essentially commits quackery, the misrepresentation of the ability of substances, devices, services, products and expertise, if not giving any deliverables at all, in exchange for money. He has taken people and businesses for thousands of dollars and continues to do so today.

He operates under numerous variants of his name and acts as a figurehead for multiple one-man and unregistered facade companies. He currently lives in South Korea holding an F-Series immigration visa, and is possibly married to a Korean citizen.

Kim is actively executing the same fraud techniques he's been accused of in the US, but now in Asia, especially in the Korean peninsula from Seoul to Busan. His flight to South Korea has eluded US consumers pursuing him, and on multiple occasions, he has dismissed and excused himself from fiduciary responsibility by taking the stance of an unconsciously incompetent entrepreneur. Nonetheless his business activity is deceptive, misleading and considered fraudulent, whether he is unconscious of it or not.  

Kim is incredibly well-spoken, persuasive, non-transparent and frequently publishing content on social media. He has had over 10 years to master the craft of projecting a believable and innocent internet persona to an expert level of mastery. In other words, he is an expert at deliberately practiced deception.

Scope and Method of Scams:

He operates numerous websites and social media accounts where he makes an abundance of selfie youtube videos about his supposed expertise and connections across several industries to bait people into buying his services as a consultant and/or broker.

BROKERING SERVICES: He targets small to medium enterprises and falsifies his background and credentials to set up appointments and meetings. He will walk into a business and claim he is an ex-management professional of a prestigious company related to his mark's industry. He would then explain a lucrative business opportunity that he has lined up for his mark in which he will take a commision for setting up this transaction. Kim would then waste his mark's time and resources, and ask for a fee to broker this highly unrealistic deal, which usually falls through. These include marketing campaigns, printing, software development work and illegal and dangerous brokering services such as taking an unsuspecting foreign patient to a surgery clinic and collecting a commision from the doctor via an inflated treatment price.

NOTE: He does not hold a college degree and has NOT worked in any qualifiable capacity in the industries he claims to be a subject matter expert in such as: robotics, technology development, telecommunications, digital marketing, 3D molding, manufacturing and printing, etc... "

His current website:

http://bitcoin-signals.org

http://bitcoinseoul.org/

His twitter: https://twitter.com/OTC_Bitcoin
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November 16, 2017, 06:15:37 PM
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I second your thoughts.
Robert Kim is a great con artist. I have been following his Twitter(https://twitter.com/OTC_Bitcoin, earlier https://twitter.com/apacllc)/Youtube channel for 3 months and his Big Blue Ocean for about 10 days. Kim always goes big on whatever story he delivers - in August he claimed his trading group comprised 5 top-notch financial analysts and traders from different parts of the world, thus they deliver non-stop advice and trading management. He claims that his group became 8-strong. During the last 7 days, his publicly available calls (posted on Youtube, Twitter and Telegram Group) hit the point only in 1/4 of cases - buy, then sell Power Ledger, buy Dash and buy LTC (though based on old news) proved to be true. Kim does a lot of hype around Pump-and-Dump coins, low liquidity and high volatility coins, many of them lacking any fundamental factors. Many times Kim calls to buy such a coin, the run is almost 1/2 or 3/4 complete. Assuming his "Asian Whale Club" offers "portfolio management services for anyone with over 50 Bitcoin" and there are indeed such trustful people to trust Kim their funds, I think Kim is just shilling the bags of his customers or organizes pumps - first he accumulates low-liquidity coins on his customers' accounts, then hypes these coins among signals buyers and shows some buying activity, to drive price upwards, followers see the run and start buying - this moment Kim dumps his stack.
Although Kim's group is supposed to be 8-strong, I cannot see any proof - his content is too poor to justify the work of 8 traders. Furthermore, his call accuracy fell from 40-45% in August, when we were witnessing the bull run in full mode to 20-25% now, when market uncertainty has taken over. Certainly he has 1 or 2 assistants, since posts are published every 2-4 hours, but far from his claims of a professional team.
Another selling point of Kim is everything about Korea - Korea this, Korea that; Upbit (the latest Korean exchange, partnered with Bittrex) launch will make all coins moon; Guys, buy before this is added to Upbit; buy Bitcoin Cash before Japan and Korea wakes up; proved inconsistent.
Kim constantly changes the names of his businesses and deletes the internet entries related to his previous businesses.

TLDR: even if you follow Robert Kim, don't trust him. You can check by yourself TA and FA on his picks, but don't take his words for truth.

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November 30, 2017, 03:13:47 PM
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I just came across his website, when I hit google, I found this post, Thanks man for the warning, you are saving a lot of people's money
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December 02, 2017, 11:02:08 PM
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Do you now what the channel was called, I have seen this video ( compilation ) before but it now has been deleted.
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December 04, 2017, 12:55:20 AM
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I really want to understand why people still pay for gurus and shit twitter traders signals. Lazy people, it is very easy to trade on cryptos why dont you use the money you pay on these scammers groups to actually invest it by yourself?
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December 04, 2017, 02:20:44 AM
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Do you now what the channel was called, I have seen this video ( compilation ) before but it now has been deleted.

Do you mean his channel in youtube? It's Bitcoin Seoul and Bitcoin Crypto Fund Management and Secret Signals. I subscribe to his channels for a while but didn't really follow his signals because I already read the article about him. I just want to know if I can really profit from the videos he made. There are times that he is right but most of the time, the coin is already up before he gives the signal to free group because as what he reasoned out, he give the paid group the signal first which is the whale club but I think as what OP said, he just give the same signals to free and paid so the paid group is at a disadvantage because supposedly they should have an edge over the free group.

It would be better to just study trading on your own and not follow the "gurus" of trading because most probably, the coins they are suggesting are the ones they are already holding and they are just waiting for the right time to dump it to its followers. There are many fraud as well in telegram groups and the difference between them and Mr. Bitcoin Seoul is that he has a face while others can't afford to show their faces.

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December 15, 2017, 07:23:08 PM
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WOW!!!!


I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SEND THIS GUY 0,12888 BTC UNTIL I FOUND THIS THREAD!! He's a fraud!!!!


OMG!!! I almost hit the send button!!! I am glad I found this thread!! Thank-you!!!!


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December 15, 2017, 08:10:57 PM
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This would be one of the most absurd and the most ironic thing in the crypto market: selling your own analysis and signals to others for them to also have money. Why would you share your money-making strategy if you're already profiting huge from it? Giving others some share of your already big pie is really pointless, and joiners should really thought of that before paying these scums money. I remember when Fontas was all over twitter and reddit spamming his VIP club for 5 BTC. Sure hope nobody bought into that shit, together with this Korean con-artist.

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December 27, 2017, 03:25:07 AM
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bump this guy is a scammer. bitcoin-fund-manager.com . He's been running scams for over 16 years. He fled America because he was being indicted for fraud, and has lived in South Korea ever since. The guy is a sociopath.

Proof is in the links below:

See: http://robertkim-scam-korean-american-conman.blogspot.ca/2014/11/korean-american-con-man-defrauds.html

Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20171227032611/http://robertkim-scam-korean-american-conman.blogspot.ca/2014/11/korean-american-con-man-defrauds.html
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December 27, 2017, 12:26:30 PM
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I came across this guy's videos on YouTube a few weeks ago they were great. when i started reading people comments were bad calling him a scammer and so on. so, I decided to stay away. in that case, why YouTube let these kind of videos on their platform. the videos should be taken down by YouTube for people safety.

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January 03, 2018, 07:17:44 AM
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I followed his free telegram group for awhile, even without looking up anything on him he displaces many of the standard traits shared among scammers. He even blocked me on twitter because I suggested that maybe one of his picks $GCR, was a scam coin (they are even worse at scamming than he is!). But I keep coming across people who think he is an almighty oracle so hopefully more of them come across this thread. Unfortunately in bull crypto times a blind luddite could pick a winner half the time, I still remember his huge signal to buy ADX NOW!!! Right before btc pumped to 20,000... his subscribers must have lost so much money.
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January 27, 2018, 09:59:56 PM
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Yes - he is a known scammer. He scammed a friend of mine.
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January 30, 2018, 03:58:06 PM
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Yes - he is a known scammer. He scammed a friend of mine.

How much did your friend lose?
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February 04, 2018, 03:16:43 PM
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Join US in our new private Telegram channel which will show you how to make real money from the Crypto Markets!
We are not a Pump and Dump channel and we do not support them as most members in there lose money. We are limited to 5000 members and after this the invite link will expire.
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February 05, 2018, 03:07:36 PM
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This site also belongs to the scammer kim:

bitccoin-fund-Manager.com

You could only join if you had 50BTC or more. The filthy scammer has know lowered it to 10BTC.


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His videos are quite convincing for me but my guts told to not to trust this guy. Always go by the saying that "If it's too good to be true" then it surely is a 100% scam.

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I'm glad I found this post. He is really convincing on YouTube.
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April 22, 2018, 08:53:38 PM
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This topic needs a BUMP.

Bobby Kim @OTC_Bitcoin also using the account @btcfundmanager is still conning and scamming people on twitter. I warned somebody and tagged him in the post. Within 10 minutes my Twitter account was suspended.

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June 18, 2018, 08:08:00 AM
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I really appreciate you, you are very smart to find information Scamer in Cryptocurrency world. and I was also yesterday almost fooled by many scam accounts on my telegram.

hopefully in the future do not get any more Scamers wandering, it just becomes bad image only for Cryptocurrency.
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