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October 19, 2017, 01:35:57 PM
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I would like to do a GPU mining and I have a capital of about $ 2300. But I need a recommendations from experienced people to choose a better device for mining ethereum. My choice is in Shapire RX 480 for GPU, what do you think, please tell me your opinion.
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October 19, 2017, 02:02:42 PM
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I would like to do a GPU mining and I have a capital of about $ 2300. But I need a recommendations from experienced people to choose a better device for mining ethereum. My choice is in Shapire RX 480 for GPU, what do you think, please tell me your opinion.

The best advice is to go with the GPUs that you can get for a good price.
RX 470/480 , RX 570/580 , GTX 1060, 1070 are the best VGAs for ETH mining.
Radeons can easily do 29-31 MH/s whereas 1060 will perform around 24 MH/s and 1070 = 29-31 MH/s.
Radeons will require some tweaking and such to get the best results while 1060, 1070 is just an overclocking away to achieve the above results.
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October 19, 2017, 02:03:43 PM
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It's all down to numbers, just like any other business. Find a way to calculate what is most profitable, doing your own calculations and understanding them is of the utmost importance if you want to mine.
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October 19, 2017, 02:15:44 PM
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RX480 is good if you can afford at low price, but it will be easy to get RX580, as RX480 is not being manufactured anymore.
You chose right GPU for ETH mining.

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October 19, 2017, 02:18:26 PM
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Amd gpu is good for Eth, but many guarantee centers prohibit changing bios. If I were you, I would buy gtx 1060 3gb.
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October 19, 2017, 04:05:01 PM
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Hello Zarados,

I've been down that road a couple of months ago and I ended up building a 10 GTX 1060 rig for a little bit more than your budget.

Why GTX 1060 ? Simply because it gives the best ROI, it can produce 23MH/s (with Samsung memory) for 200$ or less. It's very power efficient, I have limited mines to 75W each and the whole rig takes 850W from the wall (all included: motherboard, ssd, gpu, ...)

GPU:
eVGA GTX 1060 (199$)

Motherboard:
Asrock Mining motherboard 13PCIe (141.95$)

SSD:
120Gb SSD (59.99$)
If you do not intend to sync the blockchain, you can take a smaller one.

Memory:
8 Gb memory (59$)
You can take a cheap one here, it's not so important unless you want to run many applications at the same time

CPU:
Low end Celeron cpu (39$)
Unless you want to do something else than mining, you don't need a powerful cpu

PSU:
I decided to take a server PSU to provide power and reliability. I took one from parallel miners:
2400W psu (119$)
2400W is overkill for that price it's unbeatable

PSU:
I took a small and cheap PSU for the motherboard
EVGA 450W PSU (37.89$)
It's a bronze one, you can take a better one if your budget affords it

PCIe risers:
I took some cheap ones from aliexpress:
PCIe risers (30$ for 6, 60$ for 12)
I bought extra cables to connect those risers directly to the server PSU

Total for a 10 GPU Rig:
2447.83$
You can probably go a little bit below by chosing a cheaper motherboard, memory and SSD but I would keep the amount of GPU because that's how you're going to make the money.


Important remarks:
- I did not have to buy a keyboard, mouse or screen, I already had spares
- I'm using Ubuntu, it's free
- you need to have Samsung memory but you can probably use Amazon's return policy (I did it with Amazon France)
- how you put everything together is up to you. I use aluminium bars but I've seen rigs made of wine racks, shoe racks, ...
- you need to include power costs in your ROI calculation. I have solar power.

And the result is the following:


I currently make between 12 and 13$ / day but it will go down as soon as the difficulty rises.

Enjoy!

13 GPU Nvidia Rig running under Ubuntu 16 (eth hash rate: 300+Mh/s @ 1000W for whole rig): 3x EVGA GTX 1060 3Gb (24MH/s @ 65W) + 6x MSI Armor GTX 1060 3Gb (24MH/s @ 70W) + 1x MSI GTX 1060 (24Mh/s @ 65W) + 3x Zotac GTX 1060 (24MH/s @ 65 W). PSU 2400W, Asrock ASRock H110 Pro BTC+, cheap Chinese risers, Kingston SSD 120Gb, 8Gb memory. Selling some of my GPUs (around 200€, still under warranty), if you're interested, contact me in private.
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October 19, 2017, 05:22:55 PM
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GPU:
eVGA GTX 1060 (199$)

This link takes me to a 3GB card.... Are you sure you are mining ETH?  The DAG file will never load.

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October 19, 2017, 06:14:42 PM
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Hello Woodser,

Yes, I'm sure, I have 10 GTX 1060 3gb and they are working fine and will be working fine for at least one year with ETH and once POS will be there, no GPU will be able to mine so I'll switch to another currency. Those cards work well on ZEC too. 6Gb deliver a little bit more performance but they are much more expensive. The most important criteria is Samsung memory.

Thanks
Laurent

13 GPU Nvidia Rig running under Ubuntu 16 (eth hash rate: 300+Mh/s @ 1000W for whole rig): 3x EVGA GTX 1060 3Gb (24MH/s @ 65W) + 6x MSI Armor GTX 1060 3Gb (24MH/s @ 70W) + 1x MSI GTX 1060 (24Mh/s @ 65W) + 3x Zotac GTX 1060 (24MH/s @ 65 W). PSU 2400W, Asrock ASRock H110 Pro BTC+, cheap Chinese risers, Kingston SSD 120Gb, 8Gb memory. Selling some of my GPUs (around 200€, still under warranty), if you're interested, contact me in private.
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October 19, 2017, 08:14:49 PM
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Surprised no one has said just buy ETH, if that's what you're after. Regardless of what you do, you're looking at 200+ days to hit ROI. Difficulty rising, rewards just dropped, POS etc. You may just want to invest.

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October 19, 2017, 08:40:42 PM
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Hello Woodser,

Yes, I'm sure, I have 10 GTX 1060 3gb and they are working fine and will be working fine for at least one year with ETH and once POS will be there, no GPU will be able to mine so I'll switch to another currency. Those cards work well on ZEC too. 6Gb deliver a little bit more performance but they are much more expensive. The most important criteria is Samsung memory.

Thanks
Laurent

Pretty sure PoS will end up being longer than a year.
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October 19, 2017, 09:07:04 PM
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Shnikes101: buy ETH is indeed much easier but doesn't bring more certainty, I suppose people find some comfort in having hardware at home. My choice was based on the fact that my solar panel were producing more juice than I can use and this electricity was sent back to the network without earning anything.

13 GPU Nvidia Rig running under Ubuntu 16 (eth hash rate: 300+Mh/s @ 1000W for whole rig): 3x EVGA GTX 1060 3Gb (24MH/s @ 65W) + 6x MSI Armor GTX 1060 3Gb (24MH/s @ 70W) + 1x MSI GTX 1060 (24Mh/s @ 65W) + 3x Zotac GTX 1060 (24MH/s @ 65 W). PSU 2400W, Asrock ASRock H110 Pro BTC+, cheap Chinese risers, Kingston SSD 120Gb, 8Gb memory. Selling some of my GPUs (around 200€, still under warranty), if you're interested, contact me in private.
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October 19, 2017, 11:23:25 PM
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for ether rx580 is the best saphire nitro plus 30mhs
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October 20, 2017, 12:20:26 AM
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October 20, 2017, 02:31:35 PM
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I would like to do a GPU mining and I have a capital of about $ 2300. But I need a recommendations from experienced people to choose a better device for mining ethereum. My choice is in Shapire RX 480 for GPU, what do you think, please tell me your opinion.

The best advice is to go with the GPUs that you can get for a good price.
RX 470/480 , RX 570/580 , GTX 1060, 1070 are the best VGAs for ETH mining.
Radeons can easily do 29-31 MH/s whereas 1060 will perform around 24 MH/s and 1070 = 29-31 MH/s.
Radeons will require some tweaking and such to get the best results while 1060, 1070 is just an overclocking away to achieve the above results.

well, After I calculate the cost of your GPUs recomendation, I've found that I could get 5-6 Rx 480, while I could get 2-3 GTX 1070. And the hashrate was not so different. Can you give me an explanation which better, mining with 5 Gpu or 3 Gpu with the same hashrate. I thougt that minig with 5 gpu will cost more electricity power than 3 gpus, while you could minimize damage to the gpu which is divided into 5 parts. What are you guys thought?
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October 20, 2017, 02:53:02 PM
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Hello Zarados,

I've been down that road a couple of months ago and I ended up building a 10 GTX 1060 rig for a little bit more than your budget.

Why GTX 1060 ? Simply because it gives the best ROI, it can produce 23MH/s (with Samsung memory) for 200$ or less. It's very power efficient, I have limited mines to 75W each and the whole rig takes 850W from the wall (all included: motherboard, ssd, gpu, ...)

GPU:
eVGA GTX 1060 (199$)

Motherboard:
Asrock Mining motherboard 13PCIe (141.95$)

SSD:
120Gb SSD (59.99$)
If you do not intend to sync the blockchain, you can take a smaller one.

Memory:
8 Gb memory (59$)
You can take a cheap one here, it's not so important unless you want to run many applications at the same time

CPU:
Low end Celeron cpu (39$)
Unless you want to do something else than mining, you don't need a powerful cpu

PSU:
I decided to take a server PSU to provide power and reliability. I took one from parallel miners:
2400W psu (119$)
2400W is overkill for that price it's unbeatable

PSU:
I took a small and cheap PSU for the motherboard
EVGA 450W PSU (37.89$)
It's a bronze one, you can take a better one if your budget affords it

PCIe risers:
I took some cheap ones from aliexpress:
PCIe risers (30$ for 6, 60$ for 12)
I bought extra cables to connect those risers directly to the server PSU

Total for a 10 GPU Rig:
2447.83$
You can probably go a little bit below by chosing a cheaper motherboard, memory and SSD but I would keep the amount of GPU because that's how you're going to make the money.


Important remarks:
- I did not have to buy a keyboard, mouse or screen, I already had spares
- I'm using Ubuntu, it's free
- you need to have Samsung memory but you can probably use Amazon's return policy (I did it with Amazon France)
- how you put everything together is up to you. I use aluminium bars but I've seen rigs made of wine racks, shoe racks, ...
- you need to include power costs in your ROI calculation. I have solar power.

And the result is the following:


I currently make between 12 and 13$ / day but it will go down as soon as the difficulty rises.

Enjoy!

Interesting, but I have some questions about your mining rig. Why you use 2 PSU while I thought one PSU is enough, Is it because you use 10 GPUs? or you have any other reasons. And how much your electricity cost/month. And how much time to get ROI with this mining rig. Because with this GPUs price ( GTX 1060 3 gb) I also could get it more than 6 with my capital.
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October 20, 2017, 04:03:44 PM
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i personally prefer Radeon Rx 480 GPU25.0 MH/s  GPU though it is a long term investement (Payback period
257 days) yet it cheaper to buy only 199 USD.
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October 20, 2017, 07:57:28 PM
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zarados: it was for practical reasons. I could get my hands on a cheap server psu with only pcie cables, if you want to find a normal psu with the same power you're usually above 200$ for a single psu

abvhiael: indeed but at the time I bought my GTX 1060 there were no 480 on the market. Are they back now?

13 GPU Nvidia Rig running under Ubuntu 16 (eth hash rate: 300+Mh/s @ 1000W for whole rig): 3x EVGA GTX 1060 3Gb (24MH/s @ 65W) + 6x MSI Armor GTX 1060 3Gb (24MH/s @ 70W) + 1x MSI GTX 1060 (24Mh/s @ 65W) + 3x Zotac GTX 1060 (24MH/s @ 65 W). PSU 2400W, Asrock ASRock H110 Pro BTC+, cheap Chinese risers, Kingston SSD 120Gb, 8Gb memory. Selling some of my GPUs (around 200€, still under warranty), if you're interested, contact me in private.
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October 20, 2017, 08:10:36 PM
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I would like to do a GPU mining and I have a capital of about $ 2300. But I need a recommendations from experienced people to choose a better device for mining ethereum. My choice is in Shapire RX 480 for GPU, what do you think, please tell me your opinion.


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October 20, 2017, 08:20:26 PM
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I would like to do a GPU mining and I have a capital of about $ 2300. But I need a recommendations from experienced people to choose a better device for mining ethereum. My choice is in Shapire RX 480 for GPU, what do you think, please tell me your opinion.

Depending on where you are located I have found out lately that at Ebay you can buy a rig with 6 RX 480 at the price you have to invest. In many  countries I have learned that people have invest a lot of money thinking that difficulty would stay the same so they are all selling their rigs under normal price right now at 2200 Euro for a rig with 6 RX 580 which is much better than RX 480 at mining.

You can find those rigs on big marketplaces online.




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October 21, 2017, 12:34:12 AM
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But is it worth investing in eth mining today considering that it will be pos soon??
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