bitsler.com does not allow withdraw profit from faucet (?)

[GaleMartins]

A few days ago I opened an account with bitsler.
I did not make any deposits, but I was lucky enough to win 0.003 BTC just by playing the faucet.
However, when I tried to withdraw the amount, my request was declined and my balance was reset.

I guess bitsler has some policy that one is not allowed to profit from the faucet ?
If so, bitsler should state clearly the rules of using the faucet.
Advertising a faucet, without mentioning such a serious limitation sounds like a false advertisement to me.

[shield132]

They call it Faucet Abusing, making profit from faucet isn't accepted, faucet is to try how system and game works but still they give you ability to win sometimes but not massivly. If you usually play on bitsler, don't have btc and claim faucet, then win, no one will ban you. At first try deposit, grow rank and use faucet for fun.
I think Baryom will comr and see this thread too but Bitsler isn't scam, that's clear.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

They call it Faucet Abusing, making profit from faucet isn't accepted, faucet is to try how system and game works but still they give you ability to win sometimes but not massivly. If you usually play on bitsler, don't have btc and claim faucet, then win, no one will ban you. At first try deposit, grow rank and use faucet for fun.
I think Baryom will comr and see this thread too but Bitsler isn't scam, that's clear.

What?  This post doesn't even make sense.

How is OP in the wrong here?  Somebody who can write coherently, please explain.  Seems like if you won 0.003BTC, you should be able to withdraw it, right? What am I missing here?

[actmyname]

I guess bitsler has some policy that one is not allowed to profit from the faucet ?
If so, bitsler should state clearly the rules of using the faucet.

14.4. Getting an edge against the casino without any risks is FORBIDDEN. (e.g playing with faucet, winning from faucet then depositing to withdraw all the balance etc.) Only for earnings from faucets, we reserve the right not to authorize withdrawals.

via Bitsler T&C.

Don't shoot the messenger!

[iHaveDreams]

I guess bitsler has some policy that one is not allowed to profit from the faucet ?
If so, bitsler should state clearly the rules of using the faucet.

14.4. Getting an edge against the casino without any risks is FORBIDDEN. (e.g playing with faucet, winning from faucet then depositing to withdraw all the balance etc.) Only for earnings from faucets, we reserve the right not to authorize withdrawals.

via Bitsler T&C.

Don't shoot the messenger!

That's are Terms, where you've been click agree for those point rules.

Actually, Faucet's are free money / chips to starting or test. Faucet's not intended for loopholes to gain profit. which allows for abuse of the use of faucets, such as OP.

[GaleMartins]

I guess I missed point 14.4.
Let me try to understand.
Say one opens an account, deposits 0.001BTC, loses that amount, then continues to play using the faucet and wins 0.003BTC.
Is the player allowed to withdraw the 0.003BTC or not?

[actmyname]

I guess I missed point 14.4.
Let me try to understand.
Say one opens an account, deposits 0.001BTC, loses that amount, then continues to play using the faucet and wins 0.003BTC.
Is the player allowed to withdraw the 0.003BTC or not?

No. The faucet balance was independent of the deposit. Hence the terms are violated because the house edge of the deposit was not any part of the faucet-based wagering. The same happens if you wager using the faucet, win x BTC and then deposit and withdraw. You 'had an edge'.

[GaleMartins]

I see.
How about the following setting then:
One plays with the faucet and wins 0.003BTC, after that deposits an additional 0.003BTC, and places another bet for 0.006BTC.
If the last bet is successful, is the player allowed to withdraw ? 

[actmyname]

I see.
How about the following setting then:
One plays with the faucet and wins 0.003BTC, after that deposits an additional 0.003BTC, and places another bet for 0.006BTC.
If the last bet is successful, is the player allowed to withdraw ? 

I'm not exactly sure about this one. The rules state: "Getting an edge against the casino without any risks is FORBIDDEN. (e.g [...] winning from faucet then depositing to withdraw all the balance etc.) Only for earnings from faucets, we reserve the right not to authorize withdrawals."

Placing another bet at .006 most certainly has some risk associated to it but it's (almost) no different than just withdrawing the .003 BTC since the ev would still be +.00297 BTC for the player.

[yahoo62278]

In all honesty if you are only worried about playing with a faucet you likely shouldn't be gambling. Faucet is only there to test a website.  I will point this thread out to Baryom and i'm sure he will reply in the morning.

[GaleMartins]

@yahoo62278

Thanks for the advice, it's true that I shouldn't gamble.

I am asking about the faucet because it is a feature of the site that I don't fully understand yet.
It seems that there is indeed some ambiguity on the rules.
Don't you think it would interesting to clarify that?

[Baryom]

Hello GaleMartins,

Could you provide me your nickname please ?

If you use a VPS, have more than 2 accounts(by IP, family, household etc.) , used only the faucet on the long term and some other secret criteria(to prove that's your a not a regular abusers and not a bot). we won't let you withdraw from the faucet.

But if you respect the rules, we will let you. We are allowing hundreds of withdrawals from the faucet every single day.

Cheers,

[GaleMartins]

What does it mean to "only use the faucet on the long term"?

For example, the hard limitations imposed by the system is that one can use the faucet at most 15 times a day, claiming 300 satoshi each time, and two requests must be at least a few minutes apart.
This is a a concrete and unambiguous statement.
Can you give a similar concrete explanation for "only using the faucet on the long term"?

[shield132]

They call it Faucet Abusing, making profit from faucet isn't accepted, faucet is to try how system and game works but still they give you ability to win sometimes but not massivly. If you usually play on bitsler, don't have btc and claim faucet, then win, no one will ban you. At first try deposit, grow rank and use faucet for fun.
I think Baryom will comr and see this thread too but Bitsler isn't scam, that's clear.

What?  This post doesn't even make sense.

How is OP in the wrong here?  Somebody who can write coherently, please explain.  Seems like if you won 0.003BTC, you should be able to withdraw it, right? What am I missing here?

Why doesn't it make sense? He didn't understand something and I answered. I think I didn't said anything wrongly. Faucet isn't for charity, use it for game or strategy testing, don't try to make money from it. If you are regular user and make some money from faucet, it's fair.
Let's make new account and luckily earn 0.005 bitcoin, then withdraw. Use faucet again every day to earn new bitcoins, wow, still got some coins, what a good source of free money. People can't understand when and why to use faucet, is it so hard?
If you are fan of faucets, there are websites for them, collect bitcoins from faucetd and then come on bitsler if you wish.
Had anyone ever problem on withdraw of deposited bitcoins? Never!!!! So I think opening thread in scam accusation about Bitsler isn't good because this website and team does everything honestly.