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October 22, 2017, 10:48:42 AM
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It seems to me that bitcoin is a special operation of U.S. intelligence. The price of bitcoin will rise with great speed until bitcoin will gather up all the dollars in the world. Then it will depreciate sharply, and thus the Americans will get rid of its foreign debt. This is very similar to the truth. What do you think?
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October 22, 2017, 10:56:33 AM
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I think that you have no idea what Bitcoin is and how it works, and that you have posted a shower thought/conspiracy theory without doing any research whatsoever about its feasibility.
Here are some links to get you started:
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https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

I am not going to deconstruct what you said because it honestly seems so stupid that I don't even know where to begin, so I'll leave someone else to do that job.
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October 22, 2017, 10:58:04 AM
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It seems to me that bitcoin is a special operation of U.S. intelligence. The price of bitcoin will rise with great speed until bitcoin will gather up all the dollars in the world. Then it will depreciate sharply, and thus the Americans will get rid of its foreign debt. This is very similar to the truth. What do you think?

It's the pump before the dump. I very much doubt that the america government has much influence at all.
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October 22, 2017, 10:59:19 AM
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It's all nonsense. Bitcoin appeared in 2008, and only the last 2-3 years began to grow seriously. Until this point, he remained just a toy, to which very few people were serious. Too much time for such a special operation, the special services do not work with such a long time lag. The likelihood of success is also very small, too many uncertain factors. If it does not work out - how then do you account for the money wasted? Control of the US Congress for intelligence agencies is very serious, there every dollar under a microscope. The time of unbridled uncontrolled spending has passed, now the special services have less budgets than before.

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October 22, 2017, 11:03:39 AM
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Well it's very easy to form a conspiracy theory that attempts to remove the legitimacy of an open source multi-billion dollar network, but it's much harder to learn to read and listen so that you can actually find out about it.  That would explain why something as stupid as this can actually be posted by anyone.
I'll leave someone else to do that job.
Will do.
It seems to me that bitcoin is a special operation of U.S. intelligence.
Bitcoin is not operated by anyone.  The economy controls the price, and while price manipulation is possible, it's not possible to such an extent that all citizens in the world simultaneously gives their money to it, because the US government doesn't own the cash or the other assets which people hold in their homes.
The price of bitcoin will rise with great speed until bitcoin will gather up all the dollars in the world.
BTC's price has not been steadily rising, it's had significant drops as well.  By this logic, that's the aim of every asset and every stock in existence.
Then it will depreciate sharply, and thus the Americans will get rid of its foreign debt.
This part makes so little sense to me that I can't actually debunk it.  It seems like you just strung a random collection of words together.

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October 22, 2017, 11:19:37 AM
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But worst of all, the consequences of such a special operation, which can not be calculated because of many unknown factors. The destruction of financial institutions in case of success bitcoin will destroy the whole world, and the United States.

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October 22, 2017, 11:26:21 AM
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The United States government so far is an "enemy" of bitcoin because very often high officials of this government have warned the citizens of the USA to not trust bitcoin and that they will be left alone and receive no help from the government if something bad happened to them, like stealing, losing bitcoins to scammers etc.

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October 22, 2017, 11:27:21 AM
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It seems to me that bitcoin is a special operation of U.S. intelligence. The price of bitcoin will rise with great speed until bitcoin will gather up all the dollars in the world. Then it will depreciate sharply, and thus the Americans will get rid of its foreign debt. This is very similar to the truth. What do you think?

It's the pump before the dump. I very much doubt that the america government has much influence at all.
it is far from the Satoshi Nakamoto Decentralization concept. How America control bitcoin, in fact bitcoin is a wild currency for american banking industries. No government has relation with bitcoin. Bitcoin is created as a breakthrouh of financial system against old existing the current systems controlled by banks and govt. In Satoshi's whitepaper there are no conspiracy of bitcoin with America. It is a real digital currency.
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October 22, 2017, 11:29:25 AM
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Well it's very easy to form a conspiracy theory that attempts to remove the legitimacy of an open source multi-billion dollar network, but it's much harder to learn to read and listen so that you can actually find out about it.  That would explain why something as stupid as this can actually be posted by anyone.
I'll leave someone else to do that job.
Will do.
It seems to me that bitcoin is a special operation of U.S. intelligence.
Bitcoin is not operated by anyone.  The economy controls the price, and while price manipulation is possible, it's not possible to such an extent that all citizens in the world simultaneously gives their money to it, because the US government doesn't own the cash or the other assets which people hold in their homes.
The price of bitcoin will rise with great speed until bitcoin will gather up all the dollars in the world.
BTC's price has not been steadily rising, it's had significant drops as well.  By this logic, that's the aim of every asset and every stock in existence.
Then it will depreciate sharply, and thus the Americans will get rid of its foreign debt.
This part makes so little sense to me that I can't actually debunk it.  It seems like you just strung a random collection of words together.

In fact, such questions are quite normal for a non-professional investor. Against the backdrop of what happened in the US in 2008, Bernard Medoff's longstanding fraud and the complete absence of the reaction of authorized structures right up to the very end of his pyramid - why not?
In fact, simple logic, without knowledge of IT, shows us that such assumptions are nonsense.

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October 22, 2017, 11:36:17 AM
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Completely disagree. Your idea is similar to the conspiracy theory, if you are trying to find something that does not really exist, these are your problems.

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October 22, 2017, 11:49:31 AM
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You can fantasize about the most ridiculous conspiracy theories like the western world created hiv to destroy the African population.Or weapon traders creating wars in Arabian countries in order to sell weapons to these countries. Or climate change is a theory from China, there's no global warming.
All these theories are closer to reality than saying bitcoin is a US intelligence operation. A lot is possibly operated by the US intelligence, but not this.
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October 22, 2017, 11:59:39 AM
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bitcoin will gather up all the dollars in the world. Then it will depreciate sharply, and thus the Americans will get rid of its foreign debt.

some things can be answered quick and clean using google!

At the end of FY 2018 the total government debt in the United States, including federal, state, and local, is expected to be $24.19 trillion.

all the 16,639,125BTC total value is $97 billion.

if we assume US is holding all the bitcoins in the worlds and the rest of us are a fart in the wind then they will have to find someone to sell $97 billion worth bitcoin to so that they can have 1/1000 of their debt Wink

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October 22, 2017, 12:09:18 PM
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It seems to me that bitcoin is a special operation of U.S. intelligence. The price of bitcoin will rise with great speed until bitcoin will gather up all the dollars in the world. Then it will depreciate sharply, and thus the Americans will get rid of its foreign debt. This is very similar to the truth. What do you think?

The foreign debt of USA is 20 Trillion Dollars. There are only 1 Trillion dollars of printed green backs in existence. So somehow you are right. But Americans hated Bitcoins so much that nobody in the fakestream media mentions it without demonizing it in the  process. American populace hates the idea of re-learning. They need to learn something new so they hate Bitcoins. Bitcoin is a burden because they are still ill equipped skillwise to handle blockchain technology such as Bitcoin. They love Visa, Mastercard and Paypal. That is how deep they would go which is pretty shallow.

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October 22, 2017, 12:12:11 PM
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The concept of blockchain I dont believe was started by Americans and it is evolving since then! Now I dont believe there is a scheme with BTC because it behaves like a bubble! it behaves like that simply because mining still happens, its a new currency, and it has times of increase and decreased because of the demand of it!
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October 22, 2017, 12:13:40 PM
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It seems to me that bitcoin is a special operation of U.S. intelligence. The price of bitcoin will rise with great speed until bitcoin will gather up all the dollars in the world. Then it will depreciate sharply, and thus the Americans will get rid of its foreign debt. This is very similar to the truth. What do you think?

illuminati's bankrupt and financial crisis in fiat only taken part by the US Government. Decentralized and independent platform like bitcoin cannot be regulate and control in aspects bro. Likewise, bubble is matter any commodity but it is completely depend on the supply and demand not by the US residents.
Mostly all the altcoins owned by the Europeans and US guys only dumped big in the chart. If they in control they would not let the coin controlled anytime.
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October 22, 2017, 12:24:22 PM
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it's impossible,maybe the born of the bitcoin was good for Americans ,but the BTC was transfer in the word,
it's create for the world,it made a lots of guys earn a lots of money.
it's a new things for the era ,so I think we should support it
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October 22, 2017, 12:26:11 PM
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The U.S government doesn't control the dollar. All americans know that everything in their economy is ruled by the FED. Why the FED or the government would invent something that they can't have any control on. It's not like if Bitcoin was issued by a bank. Bitcoin is not even used in their market for trade

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October 22, 2017, 12:32:54 PM
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 Grin sorry to say but your idea isn't correct at all.
There is no way bitcoins are organized by the US and all that debt thing its completely irrelevant because if you calculate the amount of bitcoins that US as a total posses and the amount of debt that they do have its not ever close you can easily find it on google

Quite contrary

Also There are theories regarding bitcoins being harmful for dollars, and they are more or so acceptable.

The enterpeuners from the US are scared about bitcoins entering the economy sector of America, there is not  a proof of it being a product of America's intelligence to pay off their debts.

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October 22, 2017, 12:34:38 PM
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I don't agree with you. Bitcoin can't be controlled by Americans or Chinese. It's just people trading. The only thing that control bitcoin price is the demand and supply.
Maybe good or bad news can affect the demand but these news don't last forever.

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October 22, 2017, 01:02:12 PM
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Umm what? Not everyone buys Bitcoin is USD. And how would that erase their debt? Conspiracy theories are only fun if they make sense and are backed up by coherent facts.
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