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October 23, 2017, 07:58:23 AM |
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I am trying calculate how much roughly would one need capital in order to gain living out of mining. In case you would have to estimate, what is the life span of GPU, when used in mining? A GPU would be replaced because it's broken, sold or just replaced with more efficient one.
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Undefined31415
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October 23, 2017, 08:10:26 AM |
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Basing your calculations off of guesses from people in this forum is going to make your final calculation absurdly inaccurate.
Having said that, I have 7000 series cards (3x 7850s, a 7770, and a 7790) that I purchased between mid 2012 and Spring 2013 (for the 7790) that are still running today. These cards were kept at core temps below 75C. Higher end cards, especially those with single-fan coolers, may have a hard time maintaining temperatures that low.
PSU quality is also a big factor. If the cards aren't supplied clean power, you would expect the lifespan to be lower.
(Most of this is conjecture based on a small convenience sample, but convenience samples are most of what you're going to get here.)
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Proc.dev
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October 24, 2017, 09:37:51 AM |
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I am trying calculate how much roughly would one need capital in order to gain living out of mining. In case you would have to estimate, what is the life span of GPU, when used in mining? A GPU would be replaced because it's broken, sold or just replaced with more efficient one.
Tigel
Mining is constant load on GPU. I think at right temperature and voltage GPU will work long time
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hanskan
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October 24, 2017, 09:43:04 AM |
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Aorus 1080ti extreme has 4 year warranty. So I'd say it will last at least 4,5 years
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October 24, 2017, 10:19:55 AM |
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With proper care the card should last long enough for you to not want to use them for mining any more. Maybe only few faulty fans. Proper care in my mind means: - keeping the temp in check with moderate overclocking and undervolting - keeping the cards in dry place and relatively cool place - cleaning the dust from the fans every few months
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October 24, 2017, 10:41:00 AM |
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With proper care the card should last long enough for you to not want to use them for mining any more. Maybe only few faulty fans. Proper care in my mind means: - keeping the temp in check with moderate overclocking and undervolting - keeping the cards in dry place and relatively cool place - cleaning the dust from the fans every few months
+ if you like DIY, you could change fans from small high-speed to bigger low-speed and save original fans for selling cards 'like-new'
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October 24, 2017, 10:58:57 AM |
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With proper care the card should last long enough for you to not want to use them for mining any more. Maybe only few faulty fans. Proper care in my mind means: - keeping the temp in check with moderate overclocking and undervolting - keeping the cards in dry place and relatively cool place - cleaning the dust from the fans every few months
also you need to check the conections between gpu and psu and motherboard in order to see if all is OK or there is something wrong
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October 24, 2017, 11:11:31 AM |
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Aorus 1080ti extreme has 4 year warranty. So I'd say it will last at least 4,5 years That guarantee is based on casual use, not running 24 hour forever. Some manufacturers have added clauses to their warranty to exclude GPUs used for mining.
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Proc.dev
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October 24, 2017, 11:53:02 AM |
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Aorus 1080ti extreme has 4 year warranty. So I'd say it will last at least 4,5 years That guarantee is based on casual use, not running 24 hour forever. Some manufacturers have added clauses to their warranty to exclude GPUs used for mining. Constant load is not bad for hardware at proper settings. For example any server hardware works 24/7 for years. Just regular maintenance
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October 24, 2017, 11:53:45 AM |
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That guarantee is based on casual use, not running 24 hour forever. Some manufacturers have added clauses to their warranty to exclude GPUs used for mining.
And how will they tell if the GPU was used for mining? Those clauses are mostly to scare off noobs, they don't actually work. As for the lifespan of GPUs - for the most part it doesn't really matter cause if you're doing it right, you are going to be switching to new generation cards every ~2 years at most (unless you've got super cheap electricity and lots of it). The vast majority of brands offer 3 year warranties, so you'll be selling your used cards while they're still under warranty.
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October 24, 2017, 11:59:58 AM |
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Aorus 1080ti extreme has 4 year warranty. So I'd say it will last at least 4,5 years Only for certain things though. I doubt that Cryptocurrencies mining is under the warranty.
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October 24, 2017, 12:10:54 PM |
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I am trying calculate how much roughly would one need capital in order to gain living out of mining. In case you would have to estimate, what is the life span of GPU, when used in mining? A GPU would be replaced because it's broken, sold or just replaced with more efficient one.
Tigel
buy from evga.com 3 year warranty just don't beat on the cards set the tdp to 70% you will get 3 to 4 years a card. a nice simple card does well at 70% to 75% tdp https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5170-KR
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October 24, 2017, 12:23:36 PM |
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How can a company tell if the card was used for mining? Unless you openly admitted to them that is what you used it for is there a way to actually tell it was used for mining and not some serious high-end gaming. I am sure if needed someone could come up with a likely story for running a card a lot during the day. Would think it would be easier for the company to just replace the card than fight the issue.
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October 24, 2017, 12:36:58 PM |
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How can a company tell if the card was used for mining? Unless you openly admitted to them that is what you used it for is there a way to actually tell it was used for mining and not some serious high-end gaming. I am sure if needed someone could come up with a likely story for running a card a lot during the day. Would think it would be easier for the company to just replace the card than fight the issue.
you are not banned from folding which is high use https://foldingforum.org/so don't feel guilty about mining at reasonable tdp for a nvidia card. if you set it to 105% tdp you are morally wrong if you set it to 70%-80% tdp you are morally not wrong. To give an example with cars my kia forte can do 120 miles an hour on a straight downhill road. If I go to the one spot near my town where I can do this and do this over and over and over again I am an ass and should not get warranty service. If I cruise on the New Jersey Parkway at 80 mph. I should not feel guilty about warranty service even though I broke the speed limit in the state of NJ as that technically voids warranties. Since the warranty mentions operation of the car within legal limits and the speed limit in NJ is 65 in fact I voided warranty. Stupid rule since in Montana speed limit is more the 85 on many roads. So 81 in NJ = void but 84 in Montana = okay or mining = void but folding = okay So I mine under 80% mostly at 70-75% with nvidia and don't worry about a thing.
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October 24, 2017, 01:15:11 PM |
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I am trying calculate how much roughly would one need capital in order to gain living out of mining. In case you would have to estimate, what is the life span of GPU, when used in mining? A GPU would be replaced because it's broken, sold or just replaced with more efficient one.
Tigel
It depends on the brand and architechture of the gpu you are using in mining but mostly when mining the temp of the gpu will go 70c and up. And I think it takes 1 year of lifespan of that gpu. Also it depends on the area the place should have cooling system that maintains the temp of the gpu's on a stable temp. 70-80c and running a months is good than running it 70c below. So I estimate it takes a year when those gpu's meet it's life span in mining.
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October 24, 2017, 02:28:47 PM |
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I would think more of 1.5 to 2 years?
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October 24, 2017, 02:52:57 PM |
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GPU 7 series were produced by the old technology. They not only consume much energy but at the same time strongly heated. The performance of the GPU depends on the heating temperature of the chips. The life of the new GPU much higher because my towers are not heated above 60 degrees when the outside temperature is +34. They work mode with up to 45-50 degrees. I once a year change the thermal paste and blown radiators. In this mode, they can work until the complexity of the production allows you to use them.
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October 24, 2017, 02:56:23 PM |
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I am trying calculate how much roughly would one need capital in order to gain living out of mining. In case you would have to estimate, what is the life span of GPU, when used in mining? A GPU would be replaced because it's broken, sold or just replaced with more efficient one.
Tigel
If you run a GPU until it dies you can get 3-5 years out of it easily with proper care; keeping it cool (<70C), keeping it dry (not in a humid environment), keeping it relatively clean(dust and dirt free), and obviously free of any physical damage. The second part of your question is a bit harder to answer and depends on which point of a cards life cycle you purchase it at. If you buy new cards at the beginning of their life cycle you can expect to get 2 years out of them before newer cards will outperform them in terms of mining efficiency. If you buy them towards the end of their cycle or once a newer card has been release, you might only get a year of efficient operation out of them. Of course that also depends on the mining environment at the time you choose to replace them, as right now mining is still fairly profitable so running older cards is still profitable. But you can also get good resale because of this fact too, so it might still be a good idea to sell off your old cards and purchase newer more efficient ones to keep your mining as energy efficent as possible.
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October 24, 2017, 05:37:21 PM |
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I`m keeping my 1080 ti`s to 60°C, tdp 60-70% and fans at 60-80%. Guess this will keep them running for a long time.
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October 24, 2017, 05:48:47 PM |
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I`m keeping my 1080 ti`s to 60°C, tdp 60-70% and fans at 60-80%. Guess this will keep them running for a long time.
yep look at my numbers all waterblock hybrids
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