[Interest check]MS69 Lealana 0.5 & 0.25 BTC Gold Hologram

[Xprim777]

Hi,

I would like to see if there is interest for a possible future auction for these two coins, or what offers can I get for these. Both are funded.

- MS69 Lealana 0.5 BTC Gold hologram
- MS69 Lealana 0.25 BTC Gold hologram

[bavicrypto]

yes sir, auction would be a good idea!

[OneNattyLitecoin]

Interested. Can someone shed light on the gold holo significance? I have the .1btc.

[wheelz1200]

Interested. Can someone shed light on the gold holo significance? I have the .1btc.

Smoothie came out with a limited amount of coins with the gold holo.  As far as I remember from his auctions only a couple actually made it into his auctions...these rarely come up for sale.

[owlcatz]

Interested. Can someone shed light on the gold holo significance? I have the .1btc.

From: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1238485.0

.25 Btc silver:
Ser 1, black label, funded "Gold Hologram". Only 200 coins were produced with a gold vs. a silver hologram. Prior to these, the gold holograms were only used on the 1 Btc silver and gold coins. Out of the 200 made, less than 25 (cumulative of funded and buyer funded.) are known to have been released.
.25 Btc silver:
Ser 1, Non funded, black label, "buyer funded".  "Gold Hologram". (see info directly above).
.50 Btc silver:
Ser 1, black label, funded "Gold Hologram". Only 200 coins were produced with a gold vs. a silver hologram. Prior to these, the gold holograms were only used on the 1 Btc silver and gold coins. Out of the 200 made, less than 10 (cumulative of funded and buyer funded.) are known to have been released.
.50 Btc silver:
Ser 1, Non funded, black label, "buyer funded".  "Gold Hologram". (see info directly above).

[Xprim777]

Thanks for the informations Owlcatz !

Mine are not "buyer funded"

[greenplastic]

0.8BTC

[Xprim777]

0.8BTC

I prefer to keep them for that price...

[Zepher]

0.8BTC

I prefer to keep them for that price...

I'd go to 1 BTC for the pair, but I think you are far better off auctioning these to maximise the amount you get. Sure a lot of people would love these in their collection.

[greenplastic]

I understand, was only trying to open up the bidding. 

0.8BTC

I prefer to keep them for that price...

[Gatorelf]

very nice set and both 69's sounds like an auction 

[DebitMe]

I will offer 1.1 btc for the set, offer is only good for the next 24 hours though

[Xprim777]

very nice set and both 69's sounds like an auction 

Thank you !

I'd go to 1 BTC for the pair, but I think you are far better off auctioning these to maximise the amount you get. Sure a lot of people would love these in their collection.

It's not a bad offer. I'm not sure about the success an auction could have, even if this set is nice and rare, I've the feeling that people prefers to keep their btc. I will definitely put a reserve price if they go for auction.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

One thing I've been wondering about with these funded coins is: How safe is it to get a set? Wouldn't it be possible for the seller to move the funds after sending the coin by saving the private key somewhere?

I'd definitely love to get some of these, but it seems risky for me (mainly because I don't understand how exactly they work).

[jajorda23]

One thing I've been wondering about with these funded coins is: How safe is it to get a set? Wouldn't it be possible for the seller to move the funds after sending the coin by saving the private key somewhere?

I'd definitely love to get some of these, but it seems risky for me (mainly because I don't understand how exactly they work).

You can't really grab the private key without tampering with the holographic sticker (peeling it off). So it would be pretty obvious if it happened. One of the reasons to always use escrow in case you receive tampered coins.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

One thing I've been wondering about with these funded coins is: How safe is it to get a set? Wouldn't it be possible for the seller to move the funds after sending the coin by saving the private key somewhere?

I'd definitely love to get some of these, but it seems risky for me (mainly because I don't understand how exactly they work).

You can't really grab the private key without tampering with the holographic sticker (peeling it off). So it would be pretty obvious if it happened. One of the reasons to always use escrow in case you receive tampered coins.

I see. So there is definitely no way to somehow get the private key without it being blatantly obvious?

And what about the person who put the private key onto the hologram in the first place? Couldn't they have kept the private key somewhere?

[jajorda23]

One thing I've been wondering about with these funded coins is: How safe is it to get a set? Wouldn't it be possible for the seller to move the funds after sending the coin by saving the private key somewhere?

I'd definitely love to get some of these, but it seems risky for me (mainly because I don't understand how exactly they work).

You can't really grab the private key without tampering with the holographic sticker (peeling it off). So it would be pretty obvious if it happened. One of the reasons to always use escrow in case you receive tampered coins.

I see. So there is definitely no way to somehow get the private key without it being blatantly obvious?

And what about the person who put the private key onto the hologram in the first place? Couldn't they have kept the private key somewhere?

Someone could use a solvent to remove the sticker but I'm pretty certain that would harm the luster on the silver (still obvious).

Smoothie (creator of Lealana) has, to my knowledge, never, since their creation, ripped anyone off by saving the private keys. Neither has Mike Caldwell (Casascius). I'm pretty sure all the keys are created on an air-gapped computer and tossed after manufacture. Yes, there's some trust involved, but we have years of this not happening as evidence that it won't.

[jajorda23]

To add to my previous comment, these are slabbed/graded by ANACS. For someone to swipe the key, they'd have to crack the slab (obvious), take out the coin, have it reslabbed somehow, and then the verification number on the back of the slab would not match the photo of the coin you've purchased.

[Xprim777]

One thing I've been wondering about with these funded coins is: How safe is it to get a set? Wouldn't it be possible for the seller to move the funds after sending the coin by saving the private key somewhere?

I'd definitely love to get some of these, but it seems risky for me (mainly because I don't understand how exactly they work).

Like jajorda23 said, there's no way to see the private key without peeling the hologram

[krogothmanhattan]

And what about the person who put the private key onto the hologram in the first place? Couldn't they have kept the private key somewhere?

  To answer your question...yes there have been breaches from certain coin makers! But those are very rare. So its all a matter of trust and reputation. Top of my list would be Casascius, Lealana, Denarium,Titan , BTCC to name a few. So it is simply a matter of trust indeed.

Coinographic and Alitn were two of the makers that had their btc sweeped.