[Interest check]MS69 Lealana 0.5 & 0.25 BTC Gold Hologram

[iCEBREAKER]

possible future auction for these two coins

Yes, please!

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

One thing I've been wondering about with these funded coins is: How safe is it to get a set? Wouldn't it be possible for the seller to move the funds after sending the coin by saving the private key somewhere?

I'd definitely love to get some of these, but it seems risky for me (mainly because I don't understand how exactly they work).

You can't really grab the private key without tampering with the holographic sticker (peeling it off). So it would be pretty obvious if it happened. One of the reasons to always use escrow in case you receive tampered coins.

I see. So there is definitely no way to somehow get the private key without it being blatantly obvious?

And what about the person who put the private key onto the hologram in the first place? Couldn't they have kept the private key somewhere?

Someone could use a solvent to remove the sticker but I'm pretty certain that would harm the luster on the silver (still obvious).

Smoothie (creator of Lealana) has, to my knowledge, never, since their creation, ripped anyone off by saving the private keys. Neither has Mike Caldwell (Casascius). I'm pretty sure all the keys are created on an air-gapped computer and tossed after manufacture. Yes, there's some trust involved, but we have years of this not happening as evidence that it won't.

Well, worst case I'd still have a beautiful coin, so I guess it's worth taking the risk. Thanks for the info!

And what about the person who put the private key onto the hologram in the first place? Couldn't they have kept the private key somewhere?

  To answer your question...yes there have been breaches from certain coin makers! But those are very rare. So its all a matter of trust and reputation. Top of my list would be Casascius, Lealana, Denarium,Titan , BTCC to name a few. So it is simply a matter of trust indeed.

Coinographic and Alitn were two of the makers that had their btc sweeped.

Were there any other coin makers that stole the coins? And thanks for the list of trusted makers.

[krogothmanhattan]

Were there any other coin makers that stole the coins? And thanks for the list of trusted makers.

Microsoul has had issue with coins not loaded or improperly labeled or mislabeled private keys...you can read further here..

  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2136007.0

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Were there any other coin makers that stole the coins? And thanks for the list of trusted makers.

Microsoul has had issue with coins not loaded or improperly labeled or mislabeled private keys...you can read further here..

  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2136007.0

Thanks, will read right away.

Is it possible to check the "integrity" of the coin without messing with the hologram by the way? I would love to have the peace of mind that there are indeed coins on my coin, without having to break the seal. Seems like that is impossible though? Do I have to choose between breaking the seal and trusting blindly that there are funds on my coin?

[Xprim777]

Were there any other coin makers that stole the coins? And thanks for the list of trusted makers.

Microsoul has had issue with coins not loaded or improperly labeled or mislabeled private keys...you can read further here..

  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2136007.0

Thanks, will read right away.

Is it possible to check the "integrity" of the coin without messing with the hologram by the way? I would love to have the peace of mind that there are indeed coins on my coin, without having to break the seal. Seems like that is impossible though? Do I have to choose between breaking the seal and trusting blindly that there are funds on my coin?

Yes of course, you can see the first bits of the btc adress on the coin, and check if they are empty or not.

For Lealana 0.5 BTC: 1BTCcF9U : https://www.smartbit.com.au/address/1BTCcF9UjF3aAVwtGsUTDnDMGnEC9sp51f
For Lealana 0.25 BTC : 1BTCt1SX: https://www.smartbit.com.au/address/1BTCt1SXELwhDt6REkjBNTEGz8W4JXtjFn

You can see the coins are funded.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Yes of course, you can see the first bits of the btc adress on the coin, and check if they are empty or not.

For Lealana 0.5 BTC: 1BTCcF9U : https://www.smartbit.com.au/address/1BTCcF9UjF3aAVwtGsUTDnDMGnEC9sp51f
For Lealana 0.25 BTC : 1BTCt1SX: https://www.smartbit.com.au/address/1BTCt1SXELwhDt6REkjBNTEGz8W4JXtjFn

You can see the coins are funded.

Oh, perfect. You don't happen to wait until next year with your auction, do you?

[Xprim777]

Yes of course, you can see the first bits of the btc adress on the coin, and check if they are empty or not.

For Lealana 0.5 BTC: 1BTCcF9U : https://www.smartbit.com.au/address/1BTCcF9UjF3aAVwtGsUTDnDMGnEC9sp51f
For Lealana 0.25 BTC : 1BTCt1SX: https://www.smartbit.com.au/address/1BTCt1SXELwhDt6REkjBNTEGz8W4JXtjFn

You can see the coins are funded.

Oh, perfect. You don't happen to wait until next year with your auction, do you?

Oh no I won't wait next year to sell them. I'm just wondering if I accept one of the offers I got, or auction.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Yes of course, you can see the first bits of the btc adress on the coin, and check if they are empty or not.

For Lealana 0.5 BTC: 1BTCcF9U : https://www.smartbit.com.au/address/1BTCcF9UjF3aAVwtGsUTDnDMGnEC9sp51f
For Lealana 0.25 BTC : 1BTCt1SX: https://www.smartbit.com.au/address/1BTCt1SXELwhDt6REkjBNTEGz8W4JXtjFn

You can see the coins are funded.

Oh, perfect. You don't happen to wait until next year with your auction, do you?

Oh no I won't wait next year to sell them. I'm just wondering if I accept one of the offers I got, or auction.

Unfortunate for me then. Would've loved the 69 pair, but I guess I'll have to pick up some other coins instead. Anyways good luck with the sale of your lovely coins!

[Xprim777]

Last day if you want to send me offers

[Xprim777]

Are you ready for an auction ?

[bavicrypto]

Are you ready for an auction ?

If you do an auction without hidden cap I'll be interested! 

[Xprim777]

Are you ready for an auction ?

If you do an auction without hidden cap I'll be interested! 

There will be a reserve price, but not very high.

[bavicrypto]

Are you ready for an auction ?

If you do an auction without hidden cap I'll be interested! 

There will be a reserve price, but not very high.

I think that's a turnoff for a lot of people but good luck with your auction anyways!

[Xprim777]

Thank you !

[Xprim777]

Auction here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353901.0 Take your chance to grab this shiny set