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October 24, 2017, 01:20:57 AM
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Dude Roger. Chill out. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY knew bitcoin would ever be this successful. And now that it is, you're gonna whine about it not being even higher? THE PRICE OF BITCOIN IS TOO HIGH ALREADY!

Its no longer a coin of the people. It's a toy for the fabulously wealthy and bored. So I guess that makes it the perfect toy for you. So what are you complaining about? Meanwhile, I predict the price of BCH and other coins attempting "cash" in on the good name of bitcoin to be dust within a year. Without any merchant adoption whatsoever, they are dead in the water.

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October 24, 2017, 01:43:53 AM
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...And I predict that the masses will jump to a more useful altcoin. It could be Bitcoin Cash, it could be Litecoin, it could even be Ethereum when newcomers do enough exploring to see the cool stuff you can do with ETH. That's if they don't ditch cryptocurrencies altogether because of all the infighting between the big-name players. Roger Ver is greedy. So is everybody else who is whinging about how all the forks are going to hurt the value of Bitcoin, if we even have anything that's recognizable as the "original" Bitcoin when it's over.
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October 24, 2017, 01:51:38 AM
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...And I predict that the masses will jump to a more useful altcoin. It could be Bitcoin Cash,

Nope. Will not. Who accept bitcoin cash? please name one person/vendor.

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October 24, 2017, 02:21:57 AM
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He's greedy for sure, but honestly, if you could have more, why wouldn't you want to? Cryptocurrencies are still in their infancy and it's fairly obvious from all of the arguments that we still haven't found the best way to implement them. In a way, criticisms like this are good because at least we know there are people fighting for improvements.

I don't think any Bitcoin fork can truly take its place, but in the world of technology where everything is fast paced, you're going to get left behind if you stay stationary. Bitcoin is solid enough to remain relevant, but if it stays the same while all of its competitors are improving and all the while patching its weaknesses, something else overtaking it is almost inevitable. I don't think it will happen in the foreseeable future, but it's a very real possibility.

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October 24, 2017, 02:35:13 AM
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I do not think so. There is no question in my mind that these problems we currently have in bitcoin are stifling growth and the the price in the short term. The price of Bitcoin is currently growing at a fast pace because of all these hard forks. I agree, the price of Bitcoin is too high. If it were according to me it would be a lot less.
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October 26, 2017, 09:23:23 AM
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I do not think so. There is no question in my mind that these problems we currently have in bitcoin are stifling growth

"Stifling growth?" You mean out-doing the rate of gains by the Dutch Tulip Disaster by over 5-fold is the same thing as "stifled" to you?

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October 26, 2017, 09:25:13 AM
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Well we reached $6k with core i dont see how $10k is actually that much different considering we've come from zero.  If he said we could have been at $100k+ then thats a big difference.

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October 26, 2017, 09:30:30 AM
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I do not think so. There is no question in my mind that these problems we currently have in bitcoin are stifling growth and the the price in the short term. The price of Bitcoin is currently growing at a fast pace because of all these hard forks. I agree, the price of Bitcoin is too high. If it were according to me it would be a lot less.

You agree with the Tweet and yet agree that the price of Bitcoin is too high? Mister Ver thinks Bitcoin should have been $10,000 - more than 10 times the price a year ago. He needs to understand that big blocks is hardly the main issue and that Core is not stifling price. If so, what on earth is stifling... nay, pushing down on the price of Bitcoin Cash? No limits to blocks, no limits to price, so why isn't it performing?

And when did this all become about price anyway? Says a lot about the "other" camps beyond Core. They talk loudly about ideology and make references to whitepapers, but at the end of the day price frustrates them.

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October 27, 2017, 04:30:14 PM
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Besides the obvious problems with the assumption that BTC's market dominance would still be as high as before with a larger block size, he's also assuming that a higher market dominance purely means further increases in the Bitcoin price rather than less increases in the altcoin prices.

There was a lot of hype around altcoins, especially ETH, and the prospect of "the flippening" to a newer coin.  This caused altcoins to rise massively, but BTC was not falling during that period.  It just wasn't rising quite as quickly as all the altcoins, many of which were pretty much useless.
There is no question in my mind that these problems we currently have in bitcoin are stifling growth
It's extremely naive of you to think that the price is somehow held back at this point.  Perhaps you got in extremely late.

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October 27, 2017, 04:39:41 PM
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...And I predict that the masses will jump to a more useful altcoin.

No one cares about utility other than a tiny number of weirdos. Everyone else wants price appreciation, technical stability, competent development and the largest pool of buyers and sellers. Even then the sheer amount of acceptance makes BTC by far the most useful coin. What can I do with Dash? Fuck all pretty much.
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October 27, 2017, 05:07:38 PM
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i think those advocates for bitcoin forks should stop already. It is causing too much distortion and volatility to an asset class whose utility the average man on the street is yet to appreciate. Its time for the community to shift from all these unnecessary price speculation, and focus on value creation.
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October 27, 2017, 05:21:21 PM
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Dude Roger. Chill out. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY knew bitcoin would ever be this successful. And now that it is, you're gonna whine about it not being even higher? THE PRICE OF BITCOIN IS TOO HIGH ALREADY!

Greed is a good thing! Have you ever seen a stock trader that isn't greedy? Also, I don't agree that the price is too high. It's what it should be and I'd welcome another pump with open arms Wink
We all should be reaching for more and wanting more. If the price is enough for you then you should withdraw and go on vacation or something. I'm hoping for $10k at least.

Its no longer a coin of the people. It's a toy for the fabulously wealthy and bored. So I guess that makes it the perfect toy for you. So what are you complaining about? Meanwhile, I predict the price of BCH and other coins attempting "cash" in on the good name of bitcoin to be dust within a year. Without any merchant adoption whatsoever, they are dead in the water.

Many of these people became wealthy because they invested early. Each of us had our chance, but most blew it by selling to early. If you got in at $100 maybe you'd be fabulously wealthy and bored.
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October 31, 2017, 08:56:11 AM
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Greed is a good thing! Have you ever seen a stock trader that isn't greedy?

What an absolute pile of stinking horseshit. Greed is ruining the world.

Who the fuck do you think you are? Gordon Gecko? You do realize he was the VILLAIN of that movie, right? Remember the part when he went to PRISON???

ITS BECAUSE GREED IS BAD, you dumb fuck.

Stock traders are among the lowest pile of scum in the universe.

Bailout recipients like Jamie Dimon are, in fact, quantifiably, the _biggest losers and welfare recipients_ in the HISTORY of the known universe.

They've received more money in government-distributed welfare than all of America's trailer trash times ten. And all for what? So they can continuing hoarding money at the expense of billions of poor people around the world.

Altruism is one of the most important things that separates human beings from any other species on planet earth, and that's why we dominate this bitch.

Greedy fucks like you will soon be washed up, taken advantage of by your "best friends," imprisoned, or even sentenced to death if you live in China.

Have fun living what appears to be an utterly useless life with your complete lack of contributions to planet earth.

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October 31, 2017, 09:31:57 AM
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that tweet is 50% correct.
bitcoin would have already been $10,000 or near that price and would have been adopted by a lot more if "it weren't for the 3 year childish fights over scaling bitcoin".

we can clearly see what end of this stupid scaling debate back in August and people like Roger Ver did to bitcoin. you can only imagine what things would have been like if they never existed or forked off a long time ago.

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October 31, 2017, 09:48:44 AM
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we can clearly see what end of this stupid scaling debate back in August and people like Roger Ver did to bitcoin. you can only imagine what things would have been like if they never existed or forked off a long time ago.

There will always be stupid debates, if not about scaling then about something else. These tend to suppress the price, but I tend to believe that some level of controversy helps keep Bitcoin strong and less fragile.
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October 31, 2017, 09:53:50 AM
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The price of bitcoin is still surging because of the upcoming fork. Investors believe BTC will manage its own after the fork. So, some are turning their alts to BTC. So yes, other alts and BCH value are low today as this is one of the factors.

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October 31, 2017, 10:08:51 AM
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I always hate it when people use price as a sort of scale of a cryptocurrency's success.

it could even be Ethereum when newcomers do enough exploring to see the cool stuff you can do with ETH.
Except that ETH wasn't made to be a currency. Tongue

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we can clearly see what end of this stupid scaling debate back in August and people like Roger Ver did to bitcoin. you can only imagine what things would have been like if they never existed or forked off a long time ago.

There will always be stupid debates, if not about scaling then about something else. These tend to suppress the price, but I tend to believe that some level of controversy helps keep Bitcoin strong and less fragile.

yeah, well the biggest one to this date was this one and it really kept bitcoin back.
I agree with the second part though. if it doesn't get out of hand and not get prolonged more than it has to, these disagreements can be helpful.

it could even be Ethereum when newcomers do enough exploring to see the cool stuff you can do with ETH.
Except that ETH wasn't made to be a currency. Tongue
... and it was premined, and has lot of bugs (another DAO is always around the corner) Tongue

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October 31, 2017, 11:13:40 AM
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well most his tweet is true bitcoin price will more than today's price if this concensus drama lasted for 3 years... if Roger Ver and his allies weren't started the war and follow the core instead bitcoin will moe sucessful than ever...



...And I predict that the masses will jump to a more useful altcoin. It could be Bitcoin Cash,

Nope. Will not. Who accept bitcoin cash? please name one person/vendor.
Indeed no one will own bitcoin cash for a long term except to those BU/BCH supporters and besides who wants to hold the same bitcoin only the difference is 8mb blocks and doesn't support segwit and also the price is more volatile than bitcoin? even i sold my bitcoin cash at the of it's release. BCH is failure just like classic, XT.

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November 01, 2017, 05:32:36 AM
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well most his tweet is true bitcoin price will more than today's price if this concensus drama lasted for 3 years... if Roger Ver and his allies weren't started the war and follow the core instead bitcoin will moe sucessful than ever...



...And I predict that the masses will jump to a more useful altcoin. It could be Bitcoin Cash,

Nope. Will not. Who accept bitcoin cash? please name one person/vendor.
Indeed no one will own bitcoin cash for a long term except to those BU/BCH supporters and besides who wants to hold the same bitcoin only the difference is 8mb blocks and doesn't support segwit and also the price is more volatile than bitcoin? even i sold my bitcoin cash at the of it's release. BCH is failure just like classic, XT.

Yep I wish I had access to my paper savings wallet, I woulda sold off my BTG immediately. It was nice of blockchain.info to eventually give us our BCH, I have to say, which I sold as soon as I saw they were doing that for us.

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