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June 10, 2013, 06:02:48 PM
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For those watching the WWDC keynote... the new Mac Pro has dual GPUs. (I forget the rest of the details, but they highlighted OpenCL support.) How suitable do you suppose this would be for desktop mining?
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June 10, 2013, 06:05:16 PM
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Let's wait and see.
It will not be available for a while

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June 10, 2013, 06:17:14 PM
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I'm sure will not be worth the price tag, plus firepros have always been quite weak for mining, don't know why particularly.
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June 10, 2013, 06:22:39 PM
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I'm sure will not be worth the price tag, plus firepros have always been quite weak for mining, don't know why particularly.
That's a pretty decent assumption, but maybe for users who want a Mac Pro for other reasons, it could also double as a high-performance (and possibly quite power-efficient) mining machine.
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June 10, 2013, 08:04:59 PM
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GPU mining is over, though.  With all the ASIC's coming out, it'll be more or less useless.

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June 10, 2013, 08:33:15 PM
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GPU mining is over, though.  With all the ASIC's coming out, it'll be more or less useless.

Depends to what level, if the thing does say 1000MH/s it's not bad as long as your not paying for electricity, if you were at a company that has a few of them it's even better, OS X I've found is very easy to run a miner on and find it to be stable.
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June 10, 2013, 10:21:57 PM
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GPU mining is over, though.  With all the ASIC's coming out, it'll be more or less useless.

Depends to what level, if the thing does say 1000MH/s it's not bad as long as your not paying for electricity, if you were at a company that has a few of them it's even better, OS X I've found is very easy to run a miner on and find it to be stable.

>>>1000MH/s it's not bad as long as your not paying for electricity<<<

Or if you're paying to heat your place electrically, and then only in the winter.

All those watts being turned into BTUs may slightly lower your heating bill but they'll be costly during AC season.
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June 12, 2013, 12:09:30 AM
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hmm, looks like an ashtray from here:

http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

Anyway, bitcoin mining with an Apple is a little like coal mining in $500 designer jeans.  Sure you can, but you'll come off looking like an idiot.
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June 12, 2013, 04:23:48 PM
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GPU mining is over, though.  With all the ASIC's coming out, it'll be more or less useless.

Depends to what level, if the thing does say 1000MH/s it's not bad as long as your not paying for electricity, if you were at a company that has a few of them it's even better, OS X I've found is very easy to run a miner on and find it to be stable.

There is no way in hell it would ever reach that kind of performance...

It is stated these will feature nVidia graphics, which are not known for good hashing performance anyway even with CUDA.

Mac is probably one of the worst things you could use for mining purposes. At current difficulties you need dedicated rigs to even make it worth your while.

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June 12, 2013, 04:32:06 PM
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By the time these come out, even if they hit the 1 GH/s you assume they might, you'll only get about 0.01 BTC a day from them at best. And that will continue to drop as difficulty increases. That's only about a dollar a day. Definitely not worth it.
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June 12, 2013, 05:27:55 PM
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It is stated these will feature nVidia graphics, which are not known for good hashing performance anyway even with CUDA.

LOLWUT ?! Dude, the new Mac Pros are going to ship with Dual AMD Firepro W9000's. Combined hashing capability of 1GHs is not an unreasonable estimation.
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June 12, 2013, 05:40:17 PM
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lol from what I hear, Mac Pros have horrible cooling.

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June 12, 2013, 05:42:02 PM
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GPU mining is over, though.  With all the ASIC's coming out, it'll be more or less useless.

Depends to what level, if the thing does say 1000MH/s it's not bad as long as your not paying for electricity, if you were at a company that has a few of them it's even better, OS X I've found is very easy to run a miner on and find it to be stable.

There is no way in hell it would ever reach that kind of performance...

It is stated these will feature nVidia graphics, which are not known for good hashing performance anyway even with CUDA.

Mac is probably one of the worst things you could use for mining purposes. At current difficulties you need dedicated rigs to even make it worth your while.
Where did you hear nVidia?  It's shipping with AMD GPU's... says so right on Apple.com
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June 12, 2013, 05:55:40 PM
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For those watching the WWDC keynote... the new Mac Pro has dual GPUs. (I forget the rest of the details, but they highlighted OpenCL support.) How suitable do you suppose this would be for desktop mining?
If you already were going to buy one then go ahead but it won't make much more then $100 a month after next difficulty change and even less after that.  And that is with two top GPU's which are probably not standard.

As far as computing (not hashing) performance per cubic inch it will be a top performer. Looks nice but much depends on the price.  I personally would not buy as space and looks are not important to me, I could build a nice hackintosh rig of the same power for less.

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June 12, 2013, 05:58:57 PM
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GPU mining is over, though.  With all the ASIC's coming out, it'll be more or less useless.

Depends to what level, if the thing does say 1000MH/s it's not bad as long as your not paying for electricity, if you were at a company that has a few of them it's even better, OS X I've found is very easy to run a miner on and find it to be stable.

There is no way in hell it would ever reach that kind of performance...

It is stated these will feature nVidia graphics, which are not known for good hashing performance anyway even with CUDA.

Mac is probably one of the worst things you could use for mining purposes. At current difficulties you need dedicated rigs to even make it worth your while.
Where did you hear nVidia?  It's shipping with AMD GPU's... says so right on Apple.com

I realized I read the wrong thing, they will have AMD at the core.

Though still, this machine is not a mining machine no matter how bad you want it to be. You can certainly mine coin with it, but compared to a proper GPU rig, FPGA, or ASIC, good luck.

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June 12, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
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Do you guys know that it will have normal GPU?
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Once we know what GPU it have then we will be able to answer to you.

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June 12, 2013, 06:29:41 PM
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Do you guys know that it will have normal GPU?
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Once we know what GPU it have then we will be able to answer to you.

In the end this is really the point.

Mac, PC, whatever platform does not matter in the slightest, it is all about what the GPUs can actually do. It is stated the new Mac Pro will have AMD FirePro GPUs. I was unable to find anything out there as to what their hashrate potential is. I imagine as these are very expensive workstation graphics cards not a lot of people have even attempted to hash with them, let alone post the results somewhere.

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June 12, 2013, 06:36:53 PM
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GPU mining is over, though.  With all the ASIC's coming out, it'll be more or less useless.

Depends to what level, if the thing does say 1000MH/s it's not bad as long as your not paying for electricity, if you were at a company that has a few of them it's even better, OS X I've found is very easy to run a miner on and find it to be stable.

There is no way in hell it would ever reach that kind of performance...

It is stated these will feature nVidia graphics, which are not known for good hashing performance anyway even with CUDA.

Mac is probably one of the worst things you could use for mining purposes. At current difficulties you need dedicated rigs to even make it worth your while.
Where did you hear nVidia?  It's shipping with AMD GPU's... says so right on Apple.com

I realized I read the wrong thing, they will have AMD at the core.

Though still, this machine is not a mining machine no matter how bad you want it to be. You can certainly mine coin with it, but compared to a proper GPU rig, FPGA, or ASIC, good luck.
Oh I completely agree.
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June 12, 2013, 07:20:04 PM
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It seems like the new Mac Pro will have 2x Firepro w9000s, which is the workstation version of the 7970. 

I will be amazed if the new Mac Pro's cooling system can keep two w9000s cool while hashing.
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June 12, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
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It seems like the new Mac Pro will have 2x Firepro w9000s, which is the workstation version of the 7970. 

I will be amazed if the new Mac Pro's cooling system can keep two w9000s cool while hashing.
It will.  Not sure at what MHz the cores can go to but I am sure they will be able to push 300w to 400w of heat out of the unit.


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