New Mac Pro mining speculation

[razorfishsl]

Absolutely 100% a stupid design, put together by someone who has no experience in the real mac pro world.

I.E video & audio........

The pro was the ONLY Apple computer that allowed 3rd party PCI cards to be added, Now Sir I live in a lab environment hand job has destroyed it and the market share it held.

Now you have to 'buy' and expansion chassis, and route all the PCI traffic over some shitty bandwidth limited cable.

WTF are you supposed to do with TWO Network ports  as regards aggregation, or do they expect you to buy an expansion chassis so you can add a 3rd network port, so you can aggregate the other 2 for NAS?

Like all shitty designs it puts the vent on the BOTTOM so that it can act as a hoover for all the cat pubes, flotsam& jetsum on the floor, at least the existing metal case cheese grater traps the crap on the front where it can be wiped off.


Time to buy a 'new' old mac pro cheap, before this crap hits the market.

[TheSwede75]

Let's bring some sanity to this. Anyone who thinks that dual firepro in a $3.000+ machine is ever going to pay for itself mining needs their head checked. Period.

[Quix]

Let's bring some sanity to this. Anyone who thinks that dual firepro in a $3.000+ machine is ever going to pay for itself mining needs their head checked. Period.

+ 4000.

This is officially the silliest thread on this entire forum and that's saying a lot.

[Xian01]

Absolutely 100% a stupid design, put together by someone who has no experience in the real mac pro world.
I.E video & audio........
<snip righteous rant>

 The thing that irks me most is the lack of internal drive bays Not happy about going to need to set up external drive chassis now. Really miss the extra drive bays in this design. My current one is stacked with 4 drives
 
 1 boot + applications volume, 1 source assets volume, 1 projects volume, 1 additional applications and data volume. Don't like the fact I'm now going to need to have 3 of those 4 drives external. Use the RAID as archival and Time Machine backups as well as media server for video material.

 On the network front, it's not so bad as long as you have an 802.11ad capable switch. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004OA721C/ (Cisco 8PORT Sg 200-08 SLM2008T-NA Gigabit Smart Switch) is what I use in my studio to link a few machines together and can't really complain about the speed.

[SgtSpike]

Let's bring some sanity to this. Anyone who thinks that dual firepro in a $3.000+ machine is ever going to pay for itself mining needs their head checked. Period.

I think it's more of, "Oh hey, I'm going to buy this mac pro anyway, I wonder if it'll make me a little money on the side by mining".

[melmo]

Absolutely 100% a stupid design, put together by someone who has no experience in the real mac pro world.
I.E video & audio........
<snip righteous rant>

 The thing that irks me most is the lack of internal drive bays Not happy about going to need to set up external drive chassis now. Really miss the extra drive bays in this design. My current one is stacked with 4 drives
 
 1 boot + applications volume, 1 source assets volume, 1 projects volume, 1 additional applications and data volume. Don't like the fact I'm now going to need to have 3 of those 4 drives external. Use the RAID as archival and Time Machine backups as well as media server for video material.

 On the network front, it's not so bad as long as you have an 802.11ad capable switch. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004OA721C/ (Cisco 8PORT Sg 200-08 SLM2008T-NA Gigabit Smart Switch) is what I use in my studio to link a few machines together and can't really complain about the speed.

Maybe Apple will sell a matching external drive bay that you hook over over Thunderbolt.  And maybe it will look like C-3PO

[notlist3d]

I personally liked the design its different. 

That being said... most functional no.   Will you ever possible have roi..... no. 

[Littleshop]

Absolutely 100% a stupid design, put together by someone who has no experience in the real mac pro world.

I.E video & audio........

The pro was the ONLY Apple computer that allowed 3rd party PCI cards to be added, Now Sir I live in a lab environment hand job has destroyed it and the market share it held.

Now you have to 'buy' and expansion chassis, and route all the PCI traffic over some shitty bandwidth limited cable.

One thing Apple does is embrace change.  A 2013 Mac Pro user will have Thunderbolt drives and not need PCI devices.  Thunderbolt is faster then hard drives so it is not as important that it is not as fast as PCI-E.  Certainly a small subset of Mac Pro users will be disappointed, but not the majority of the market.  There will probably be more users who this is exactly what they need.  I could be wrong but expect the base price of this machine to be LOWER then the old machine.  I am guessing they will have a single entry level GPU option as well as single and double FirePro options in the 4096 core 3GB per card versions.  If this machines  base price is more then $2500 it will be a dud.   

[ScaryHash]

It will be another Cube boondoggle.

Honestly, I was a diehard Mac fan for a long time, but they lost me when they went with the all-in-one designs for the iMacs and the super-expensive Mac pro.

They simply do not have a product for the average power-user who is not a "pro" level video editor, graphic designer jockey. Nothing against those people, but I like to tinker with my machines.

The all-in-one's are basically closed machines, while the pro machine is way too expensive.

Now, they have alienated the power creative users who absolutely HAVE to stick cards into their computers to handle serious audio (96khz sample rates), real time video editing, and possibly others as well.

First they killed off the Xserve, and now they're killing off the big chassis towers. I don't use their stinking phones either. Way overpriced junk.

[notaek]

On the apple website it said between two GPUs there will be 4096 Stream Processors.  So we can expect 1.2mh/s out of this thing.

[Xian01]

Now, they have alienated the power creative users who absolutely HAVE to stick cards into their computers to handle serious audio (96khz sample rates), real time video editing, and possibly others as well.

Not true. Using an RME Fireface UFX plugged into the USB port of my Mac Pro pumping out audio @ 192kHz/24bit

[notaek]

Now, they have alienated the power creative users who absolutely HAVE to stick cards into their computers to handle serious audio (96khz sample rates), real time video editing, and possibly others as well.

Not true. Using an RME Fireface UFX plugged into the USB port of my Mac Pro pumping out audio @ 192kHz/24bit

Is there latency involved with using USB though?

[Xian01]

Is there latency involved with using USB though?

 I can live with ~6ms of latency.