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June 11, 2013, 07:06:33 AM
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Onionwallet (Onion wallet) is a SCAM.  Prior to using the Onionwallet site, I could not find any reviews on the site.  Well, I was just robbed for about $165 from that site.  Here is how it went down...beware and don't make the same mistake I did.

1.  I deposited <1 BTC into 2 different accounts
2.  I received a message that my BTC transfer was being processed (correct amount shown)
3.  After 45 minutes, the BTC was simultaneously taken out of both accounts
4.  The BTC, according to blockchain, was placed into 1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH       
        reference:  http://blockchain.info/address/1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH
5.  I am no longer able to log in to either account, as the site is a scam itself.

What is the tell tale sign is that the OnionWallet site will allow me to create a new account and log into that account; however, I cannot log into the accounts that I deposited in.  After feeling something was fishy, I used blockchain.info to figure out exactly where the BTC went and that my accounts in OnionWallet are empty.  My password is abstract, and I take good care to maintain its confidentiality.

Are there many scam wallet sites out there like Onionwallet?  I researched OnionWallet before I deposited, but there was no one saying that it was a scam.  One look at the blockchain 1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH let's me know that this guy has been scamming quite a bit.

Sad for sure....Anyone have any suggestions on a trustworthy, anonymous wallet site out there?
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June 11, 2013, 07:09:56 AM
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Onionwallet (Onion wallet) is a SCAM.  Prior to using the Onionwallet site, I could not find any reviews on the site.  Well, I was just robbed for about $165 from that site.  Here is how it went down...beware and don't make the same mistake I did.

1.  I deposited <1 BTC into 2 different accounts
2.  I received a message that my BTC transfer was being processed (correct amount shown)
3.  After 45 minutes, the BTC was simultaneously taken out of both accounts
4.  The BTC, according to blockchain, was placed into 1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH       
        reference:  http://blockchain.info/address/1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH
5.  I am no longer able to log in to either account, as the site is a scam itself.

What is the tell tale sign is that the OnionWallet site will allow me to create a new account and log into that account; however, I cannot log into the accounts that I deposited in.  After feeling something was fishy, I used blockchain.info to figure out exactly where the BTC went and that my accounts in OnionWallet are empty.  My password is abstract, and I take good care to maintain its confidentiality.

Are there many scam wallet sites out there like Onionwallet?  I researched OnionWallet before I deposited, but there was no one saying that it was a scam.  One look at the blockchain 1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH let's me know that this guy has been scamming quite a bit.

Sad for sure....Anyone have any suggestions on a trustworthy, anonymous wallet site out there?


Sucks that this happened! I always do a lot of research and speak to people before I send anything, although I get that someone has to be "the first." Sad
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June 11, 2013, 07:13:54 AM
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Ranlo,

Do you have any suggestions on Trusted, Anonymous Wallets? 

It does suck that I had to be the first to report this but if you look at http://blockchain.info/address/1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH it looks like this guy has been at it for a while.

I just wish I could find out who the scammer was...anyway, at least I still have 2.5 BTC left.  I was "smart enough"...if that can be said when scammed...not to send but a small amount of my total Sad

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June 11, 2013, 07:14:49 AM
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I feel sorry for you, there's so much scam out there... Watch out, everyone!!
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June 11, 2013, 07:16:21 AM
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Proving once again, anonymous + business = joke

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June 11, 2013, 07:23:11 AM
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Ranlo,

Do you have any suggestions on Trusted, Anonymous Wallets? 

It does suck that I had to be the first to report this but if you look at http://blockchain.info/address/1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH it looks like this guy has been at it for a while.

I just wish I could find out who the scammer was...anyway, at least I still have 2.5 BTC left.  I was "smart enough"...if that can be said when scammed...not to send but a small amount of my total Sad



The only wallets I use are those that are in my own possession, so sorry, can't really help you there if you want one that's hosted.

I'd highly suggest just getting a wallet on your PC.
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June 11, 2013, 07:31:27 AM
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Ranlo,

Do you have any suggestions on Trusted, Anonymous Wallets? 


Yes, very easy.

1. Get Address and private key from www.bitaddress.org
2. Print your keys
3. Send BTC to that address.
4. keep private key away from the computer.

EASY!
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June 11, 2013, 07:47:34 AM
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Ranlo,

Do you have any suggestions on Trusted, Anonymous Wallets? 


Yes, very easy.

1. Get Address and private key from www.bitaddress.org
2. Print your keys
3. Send BTC to that address.
4. keep private key away from the computer.

EASY!

I took his question as meaning an online wallet though, like one where he just logs in and has access to his balance to spend as he wants.
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June 11, 2013, 08:57:19 AM
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Ranlo,

Do you have any suggestions on Trusted, Anonymous Wallets? 

It does suck that I had to be the first to report this but if you look at http://blockchain.info/address/1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH it looks like this guy has been at it for a while.

I just wish I could find out who the scammer was...anyway, at least I still have 2.5 BTC left.  I was "smart enough"...if that can be said when scammed...not to send but a small amount of my total Sad



The closest thing to a trusted anonymous wallet is the trusted wallet you run on your own computing device. It is actually hard to get more anonymous than running a local wallet.

Most tor hosted mixers and wallet services you simply have to assume are scams until demonstrated otherwise.

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June 11, 2013, 08:58:20 AM
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Ranlo,

Do you have any suggestions on Trusted, Anonymous Wallets?  

It does suck that I had to be the first to report this but if you look at http://blockchain.info/address/1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH it looks like this guy has been at it for a while.

I just wish I could find out who the scammer was...anyway, at least I still have 2.5 BTC left.  I was "smart enough"...if that can be said when scammed...not to send but a small amount of my total Sad



The closest thing to a trusted anonymous wallet is the trusted wallet you run on your own computing device. It is actually hard to get more anonymous than running a local wallet.

Most tor hosted mixers and wallet services you simply have to assume are scams until demonstrated otherwise.

In practice, an anonymous wallet or mixer that has demonstrated they are not a scam, are merely long cons (mybitcoin.com) or sleeping trojans.

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June 11, 2013, 09:00:12 AM
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Ranlo,

Do you have any suggestions on Trusted, Anonymous Wallets?  

It does suck that I had to be the first to report this but if you look at http://blockchain.info/address/1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH it looks like this guy has been at it for a while.

I just wish I could find out who the scammer was...anyway, at least I still have 2.5 BTC left.  I was "smart enough"...if that can be said when scammed...not to send but a small amount of my total Sad



The closest thing to a trusted anonymous wallet is the trusted wallet you run on your own computing device. It is actually hard to get more anonymous than running a local wallet.

Most tor hosted mixers and wallet services you simply have to assume are scams until demonstrated otherwise.

In practice, an anonymous wallet or mixer that has demonstrated they are not a scam, are merely long cons (mybitcoin.com) or sleeping trojans.

You lost me with that link. It forwards to bitcoin.org...?
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June 11, 2013, 09:01:43 AM
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Ranlo,

Do you have any suggestions on Trusted, Anonymous Wallets?  

It does suck that I had to be the first to report this but if you look at http://blockchain.info/address/1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH it looks like this guy has been at it for a while.

I just wish I could find out who the scammer was...anyway, at least I still have 2.5 BTC left.  I was "smart enough"...if that can be said when scammed...not to send but a small amount of my total Sad



The closest thing to a trusted anonymous wallet is the trusted wallet you run on your own computing device. It is actually hard to get more anonymous than running a local wallet.

Most tor hosted mixers and wallet services you simply have to assume are scams until demonstrated otherwise.

In practice, an anonymous wallet or mixer that has demonstrated they are not a scam, are merely long cons (mybitcoin.com) or sleeping trojans.

You lost me with that link. It forwards to bitcoin.org...?

I can't explain why that is, but here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MyBitcoin (it may have been before your time).

TL;DR? They stole 51% of everyone's money, tracing them showed an anonymous registration in a country known for anonymous shell companies .

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June 11, 2013, 09:02:16 AM
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In practice, an anonymous wallet or mixer that has demonstrated they are not a scam, are merely long cons (mybitcoin.com) or sleeping trojans.

Then if they turn out to be long cons, then they haven't properly demonstrated that they aren't scams.

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June 11, 2013, 09:04:49 AM
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In practice, an anonymous wallet or mixer that has demonstrated they are not a scam, are merely long cons (mybitcoin.com) or sleeping trojans.

Then if they turn out to be long cons, then they haven't properly demonstrated that they aren't scams.

That's true in theory, but in practice, it's impossible to "prove" something isn't a scam. MtGox could be a scam just waiting for enough money to sit there before taking off for all we know, that doesn't mean they haven't given properly demonstrated that they aren't a scam. That's why anything anonymous should be boycotted from the start. It's hard enough keeping a public business honest, doing business with an anonymous private one is basically gambling with your money.

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June 11, 2013, 09:07:06 AM
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Ranlo,

Do you have any suggestions on Trusted, Anonymous Wallets?  

It does suck that I had to be the first to report this but if you look at http://blockchain.info/address/1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH it looks like this guy has been at it for a while.

I just wish I could find out who the scammer was...anyway, at least I still have 2.5 BTC left.  I was "smart enough"...if that can be said when scammed...not to send but a small amount of my total Sad



The closest thing to a trusted anonymous wallet is the trusted wallet you run on your own computing device. It is actually hard to get more anonymous than running a local wallet.

Most tor hosted mixers and wallet services you simply have to assume are scams until demonstrated otherwise.

In practice, an anonymous wallet or mixer that has demonstrated they are not a scam, are merely long cons (mybitcoin.com) or sleeping trojans.

You lost me with that link. It forwards to bitcoin.org...?

I can't explain why that is, but here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MyBitcoin (it may have been before your time).

TL;DR? They stole 51% of everyone's money, tracing them showed an anonymous registration in a country known for anonymous shell companies .

This is definitely before my time (only been around a few weeks). And wow... based on the article they seemed to be pretty trustworthy.
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June 11, 2013, 09:08:58 AM
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Ranlo,

Do you have any suggestions on Trusted, Anonymous Wallets?  

It does suck that I had to be the first to report this but if you look at http://blockchain.info/address/1NRMGqPYXwPoAGHiPAMzBgkqCcmgms3hjH it looks like this guy has been at it for a while.

I just wish I could find out who the scammer was...anyway, at least I still have 2.5 BTC left.  I was "smart enough"...if that can be said when scammed...not to send but a small amount of my total Sad



The closest thing to a trusted anonymous wallet is the trusted wallet you run on your own computing device. It is actually hard to get more anonymous than running a local wallet.

Most tor hosted mixers and wallet services you simply have to assume are scams until demonstrated otherwise.

In practice, an anonymous wallet or mixer that has demonstrated they are not a scam, are merely long cons (mybitcoin.com) or sleeping trojans.

You lost me with that link. It forwards to bitcoin.org...?

I can't explain why that is, but here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MyBitcoin (it may have been before your time).

TL;DR? They stole 51% of everyone's money, tracing them showed an anonymous registration in a country known for anonymous shell companies .

This is definitely before my time (only been around a few weeks). And wow... based on the article they seemed to be pretty trustworthy.

I made a prank bet here to prove once and for all that "trustworthiness" doesn't count (and got exactly what I deserved: see my title). The community is a bit more suspicious of anonymous and even public services these days, but they still fawn over flashy money tossers too easily (the "boy's club" of bitcoin) and think that anyone who mimics their libertarian philosophies must be a saint.  Roll Eyes

With the rise of bitcoin prices, the biggest scams have yet to even happen I'm sure.

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June 11, 2013, 09:11:14 AM
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I made a prank bet here to prove once and for all that "trustworthiness" doesn't count (and got exactly what I deserved: see my title). The community is a bit more suspicious of anonymous and even public services these days, but they still fawn over flashy money tossers too easily (the "boy's club" of bitcoin) and think that anyone who mimics their libertarian philosophies must be a saint.  Roll Eyes

With the rise of bitcoin prices, the biggest scams have yet to even happen I'm sure.

Lol, I never even saw that title. But who can NOT trust a guy with cool dogs as his avatar?
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June 11, 2013, 09:13:35 AM
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I made a prank bet here to prove once and for all that "trustworthiness" doesn't count (and got exactly what I deserved: see my title). The community is a bit more suspicious of anonymous and even public services these days, but they still fawn over flashy money tossers too easily (the "boy's club" of bitcoin) and think that anyone who mimics their libertarian philosophies must be a saint.  Roll Eyes

With the rise of bitcoin prices, the biggest scams have yet to even happen I'm sure.

Lol, I never even saw that title. But who can NOT trust a guy with cool dogs as his avatar?

Why, cats of course.  Cheesy

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June 11, 2013, 09:20:24 AM
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I made a prank bet here to prove once and for all that "trustworthiness" doesn't count (and got exactly what I deserved: see my title). The community is a bit more suspicious of anonymous and even public services these days, but they still fawn over flashy money tossers too easily (the "boy's club" of bitcoin) and think that anyone who mimics their libertarian philosophies must be a saint.  Roll Eyes

With the rise of bitcoin prices, the biggest scams have yet to even happen I'm sure.

Lol, I never even saw that title. But who can NOT trust a guy with cool dogs as his avatar?

Why, cats of course.  Cheesy

Sir, it would appear you never met...

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June 11, 2013, 11:48:54 AM
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Use only wallet sites you trust. don't send people your money for free.
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