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October 31, 2017, 04:09:57 PM
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do you really think this project scam?  Huh

I am still not convinced. I know what I can see with my eyes. I still don't like the roadmap, still don't like the whitepaper, still don't like the bounty campaign, and any words from self-proclaimed "development team" can't change that. I admit that there is more info about them now, but it started popping up after my first post, so it's irrelevant. But it may not be an intended scam. Doing an ICO is just an easy way of rising funds without giving investors any assurance, and they know that they may get away with it, when their project fails. At best they just may be a bunch of kids with heads full of dreams, and those dreams will be shattered, when they clash with reality. Good luck to them and to investors, who, against my advice, decide to invest into that questionable project.

There is discrepancy in your words: we had link to the community in social network "vkontakte" since the beginning of publication on the bitcointalk. So, you could see admins and their friends, like Vladimir Berzin, before specialized answer for you. And sorry for Nikita Klapeyron surname artefact:)

https://i.imgur.com/3OG1goo.png

I still do not understand the claims to the bounty campaign. Can you formalize this?

The volume of the market of robotics is growing every year. We chose a free and promising niche and we definitely not heard such harsh statements like yours.
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October 31, 2017, 04:11:54 PM
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was always waiting for such personal hand in my house. Any thoughts on price for  off-the-shelf product?

Price is <=$5000
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November 01, 2017, 06:02:42 PM
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was always waiting for such personal hand in my house. Any thoughts on price for  off-the-shelf product?

Price is <=$5000

wow, $5000 is quite a price. What is the purpose of this robotic device, solely communication?
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November 01, 2017, 08:33:29 PM
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was always waiting for such personal hand in my house. Any thoughts on price for  off-the-shelf product?

Price is <=$5000

wow, $5000 is quite a price. What is the purpose of this robotic device, solely communication?

May be, but our robot is not a toy. This is a quite serious instrument.

The main (but not sole!) feature is a telepresence with the ability to influence the surrounding objects. The reason for such price is the manipulator itself (~1/2 robot cost). To make it cheaper means to reduce the possibilities of the manipulator (or make it useless).

But I can say that $5000 is the top estimate of the retail price. We are planning to develop our robot in the direction of autonomous artificial intelligence after release (via free software updates). It means, he can bring you a beer from the fridge, for example.

Also $5000 is still lower than the price of existing home robots (for example, NAO or Pepper), despite the fact that Clapeyron is much more useful.

More use cases you can find in our whitepaper. Now we are refactoring wp and site to make the information more clear and demonstrative. New update is coming soon:)
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November 01, 2017, 08:37:30 PM
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I think ICO'S should be illegal ... if you change it to a mining coin only..then..looks great. Smiley

Should we ingeniously change "ICO" to "mining coins"?)
this is just an asset selling ico..no coins no blockchain involved into their project...so it is just money begging  Grin

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November 01, 2017, 08:51:42 PM
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I think ICO'S should be illegal ... if you change it to a mining coin only..then..looks great. Smiley

Should we ingeniously change "ICO" to "mining coins"?)
this is just an asset selling ico..no coins no blockchain involved into their project...so it is just money begging  Grin

1) A project participating in an ICO hasn't to be connected with the blockchain. (despite that we associate ourselves with blockchain because of specific data collection system)
2) Our ICO is not money begging. This is an attraction of investments. If you think another way, explain you opinion, please. Help us to make our ICO more clear for you:)
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November 01, 2017, 09:39:21 PM
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It's not even a criticism, just unreasonable butthurt.
I can see it's getting personal. I'm not gonna respond in that manner. You asked what we think about your project, I answered as honestly as I could.
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and we definitely not heard such harsh statements like yours.
I agree, it was harsh, but it was necessary. You probably weren't ready for that, that's all.
When researching ICO, I always check following things:
how credible the team is;
is there solid, easy to understand whitepaper;
how is the coin supply going to be divided;
how consistent and realistic the roadmap (timeline of development) is;
is there a use case or (even better) a working product or a service already;
how is the team communicating with prospective investors and marketing the ICO;
As you can see, in my opinion you failed at first hurdle. But you still can improve. Whatever I stated was wrong about you in my previous posts, work on it. Good luck. I hope youre still here in Q3 2020.
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November 02, 2017, 06:48:51 AM
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It's not even a criticism, just unreasonable butthurt.
I can see it's getting personal. I'm not gonna respond in that manner. You asked what we think about your project, I answered as honestly as I could.
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and we definitely not heard such harsh statements like yours.
I agree, it was harsh, but it was necessary. You probably weren't ready for that, that's all.
When researching ICO, I always check following things:
how credible the team is;
is there solid, easy to understand whitepaper;
how is the coin supply going to be divided;
how consistent and realistic the roadmap (timeline of development) is;
is there a use case or (even better) a working product or a service already;
how is the team communicating with prospective investors and marketing the ICO;
As you can see, in my opinion you failed at first hurdle. But you still can improve. Whatever I stated was wrong about you in my previous posts, work on it. Good luck. I hope youre still here in Q3 2020.


This is a constructive comment, thank you. We are working on it.
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November 02, 2017, 07:00:26 AM
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As a newbie, I don't have enough experiences.But I think that this ICO is not so bad.But most of the senior members are blaming that this ICO is totally a Scam.I'm in a great confusion.Whatever following.......:
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November 02, 2017, 11:44:52 AM
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As a newbie, I don't have enough experiences.But I think that this ICO is not so bad.But most of the senior members are blaming that this ICO is totally a Scam.I'm in a great confusion.Whatever following.......:

Yeah, that is mainly down to me. But over time my perception of this project has become a bit more favorable, mostly because there was good and honest communication from the team. The just made a bad impression at the start, they are working hard to improve it now. Let's see what happens next.
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November 02, 2017, 12:29:24 PM
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Great concept btw.
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November 02, 2017, 12:54:10 PM
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Great concept btw.

Thank you very much Smiley
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November 02, 2017, 02:03:56 PM
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was always waiting for such personal hand in my house. Any thoughts on price for  off-the-shelf product?

Price is <=$5000

wow, $5000 is quite a price. What is the purpose of this robotic device, solely communication?

May be, but our robot is not a toy. This is a quite serious instrument.

The main (but not sole!) feature is a telepresence with the ability to influence the surrounding objects. The reason for such price is the manipulator itself (~1/2 robot cost). To make it cheaper means to reduce the possibilities of the manipulator (or make it useless).

But I can say that $5000 is the top estimate of the retail price. We are planning to develop our robot in the direction of autonomous artificial intelligence after release (via free software updates). It means, he can bring you a beer from the fridge, for example.

Also $5000 is still lower than the price of existing home robots (for example, NAO or Pepper), despite the fact that Clapeyron is much more useful.

More use cases you can find in our whitepaper. Now we are refactoring wp and site to make the information more clear and demonstrative. New update is coming soon:)

just watched video. manipulator will be a great thing if he manage to deliver me coffee in the morning. BTW, what is its length ? Arguably  I should consider myself as a buyer.
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November 02, 2017, 02:17:19 PM
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    Interesting project, there are robots that can interact with the environment but it is unfortunate human power would not be needed anymore.
"Humans will be replaced by robots" is very unfortunate.

   I will invert in your project the stars ICO now!

   Good luck success!

Thanks Dev!
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November 02, 2017, 03:00:11 PM
Last edit: November 02, 2017, 06:05:09 PM by ClapeyronRobotics
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was always waiting for such personal hand in my house. Any thoughts on price for  off-the-shelf product?

Price is <=$5000

wow, $5000 is quite a price. What is the purpose of this robotic device, solely communication?

May be, but our robot is not a toy. This is a quite serious instrument.

The main (but not sole!) feature is a telepresence with the ability to influence the surrounding objects. The reason for such price is the manipulator itself (~1/2 robot cost). To make it cheaper means to reduce the possibilities of the manipulator (or make it useless).

But I can say that $5000 is the top estimate of the retail price. We are planning to develop our robot in the direction of autonomous artificial intelligence after release (via free software updates). It means, he can bring you a beer from the fridge, for example.

Also $5000 is still lower than the price of existing home robots (for example, NAO or Pepper), despite the fact that Clapeyron is much more useful.

More use cases you can find in our whitepaper. Now we are refactoring wp and site to make the information more clear and demonstrative. New update is coming soon:)

just watched video. manipulator will be a great thing if he manage to deliver me coffee in the morning. BTW, what is its length ? Arguably  I should consider myself as a buyer.

units in pictures below: mm
https://clapeyronrobotics.com/bitcointalk/image_1.png
https://clapeyronrobotics.com/bitcointalk/image_2.png
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November 03, 2017, 09:05:55 PM
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was always waiting for such personal hand in my house. Any thoughts on price for  off-the-shelf product?

Price is <=$5000

wow, $5000 is quite a price. What is the purpose of this robotic device, solely communication?

May be, but our robot is not a toy. This is a quite serious instrument.

The main (but not sole!) feature is a telepresence with the ability to influence the surrounding objects. The reason for such price is the manipulator itself (~1/2 robot cost). To make it cheaper means to reduce the possibilities of the manipulator (or make it useless).

But I can say that $5000 is the top estimate of the retail price. We are planning to develop our robot in the direction of autonomous artificial intelligence after release (via free software updates). It means, he can bring you a beer from the fridge, for example.

Also $5000 is still lower than the price of existing home robots (for example, NAO or Pepper), despite the fact that Clapeyron is much more useful.

More use cases you can find in our whitepaper. Now we are refactoring wp and site to make the information more clear and demonstrative. New update is coming soon:)

just watched video. manipulator will be a great thing if he manage to deliver me coffee in the morning. BTW, what is its length ? Arguably  I should consider myself as a buyer.

units in pictures below: mm



Thanks, just enough to reach my desk. I shall wait for its availability to buy. Hope it will cause no problem in Europe.
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