[ANN] [pre-ICO] Clapeyron Robotics

[ClapeyronRobotics]

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We are a team developing a multifunctional robot-assistant for home use. Thanks to 3D-sensors our robot is able to accurately determine its position in space, powerful actuators allow him to carry objects weighing up to two kilos and the hardware implementation of machine learning algorithms makes it intelligent. The Clapeyron robot is created to be the best home helper you can buy.
To implement such a project as our robot, intensive work of a qualified and motivated team of developers is needed, which requires significant investments. Our startup funding is divided into two stages: preliminary (pre-ICO) and main (ICO). The minimum amount, collected in pre-ICO, will be $250,000 and the maximum - $400,000. Buyers of the tokens during the pre-ICO receive a significant discount. The date of the preliminary round of the ICO will be announced by the end of October – beginning of November.

Bounty campaign starts now. Threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2317282.new#new

Let's break new ground in robotics together!

[ClapeyronRobotics]

what do you think about our project?

[tbearhere]

I think ICO'S should be illegal ... if you change it to a mining coin only..then..looks great.

[ElmetElmet]

what do you think about our project?

What do I think about your project? IMHO there is no project. Why? No info on dev team anywhere in the web. Unrealistic roadmap. Your whitepaper just doesn't add up (and trust me, I read quite a few of them). Bounty campaign resembles a Ponzi scheme. It has written word

SCAM

all over it. Investors beware! You are about to lose your money! That's what I think about your "project".

[ClapeyronRobotics]

I think ICO'S should be illegal ... if you change it to a mining coin only..then..looks great.

Should we ingeniously change "ICO" to "mining coins"?)

[ClapeyronRobotics]

what do you think about our project?

What do I think about your project? IMHO there is no project. Why? No info on dev team anywhere in the web. Unrealistic roadmap. Your whitepaper just doesn't add up (and trust me, I read quite a few of them). Bounty campaign resembles a Ponzi scheme. It has written word

SCAM

all over it. Investors beware! You are about to lose your money! That's what I think about your "project".

Your words are not supported by arguments. I might agree with the lack of info about team only. But there is some information in any case, also we are going to make a video with the team. Roadmap is realistic if you try to understand our purposes for a roadmap period. It is: to finish navigation, to finish phrases recognition, to make the final design, to train robot to recognize objects and to grab them. That's all. After this period we will update software, but robot has to be sold.

What doesn't add up in our whitepaper?

Bounty campaign is completely transparent. We just look on total number of website visit from all referral links and the same number for each participant. Clear scheme.

[glasbren]

seems interesting project, but some say scam. I still do not understand the truth. watching first  ..

[ClapeyronRobotics]

We'll present detailed information about our team soon. We almost found a well known escrow. I can say, that most of us are graduates of MIPT(SU) (Bachelor's / master's degree).

So, besides for the team, do you have more questions/doubts? Your opinion is very important for us

[satria33]

Hello everybody! Clapeyron Robotics is a brand new startup project aimed to make the first mobile home robot-assistant that will be able to physically interact with the environment.

To implement our plan we need investments, and so we arrange the ICO. Start date of the pre-ICO round will be in late November.

Find more detailed information about the project on our site: https://clapeyronrobotics.com

Whitepaper: https://clapeyronrobotics.com/files/en_whitepaper.pdf

Tokensale: https://clapeyronrobotics.com/files/en_tokensale.pdf

Bounty campaign starts now. Threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2317282.new#new

Let's break new ground in robotics together!

Interesting project, there are robots that can interact with the environment but it is unfortunate human power would not be needed anymore.
"Humans will be replaced by robots" is very unfortunate

[alex-nn]

Robots is very perspective trend, but we need more technical info to trust in your project

[ClapeyronRobotics]

It will be a long time before robots can replace human. Anyway, nothing prevents him from doing sports, for example, or creative activity.

About technical information. Yes, thank you, I think, we could present some principles and ideas we use. I think we will pay more attention to this in the next version of our whitepaper. And we are planning to publish one more video about our functional prototype.

[Jubgle Sven]

Robots everywhere. Future is coming.
GL devs!

What about russian ANN thread?

[ClapeyronRobotics]

Robots everywhere. Future is coming.
GL devs!

What about russian ANN thread?

We have russian [bounty] thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2320254.msg23559594#msg23559594
What's wrong with current thread?

Is there japanese [ANN] thread here? Japan is our main target audience.

[ElmetElmet]

what do you think about our project?

What do I think about your project? IMHO there is no project. Why? No info on dev team anywhere in the web. Unrealistic roadmap. Your whitepaper just doesn't add up (and trust me, I read quite a few of them). Bounty campaign resembles a Ponzi scheme. It has written word

SCAM

all over it. Investors beware! You are about to lose your money! That's what I think about your "project".

Your words are not supported by arguments. I might agree with the lack of info about team only. But there is some information in any case, also we are going to make a video with the team. Roadmap is realistic if you try to understand our purposes for a roadmap period. It is: to finish navigation, to finish phrases recognition, to make the final design, to train robot to recognize objects and to grab them. That's all. After this period we will update software, but robot has to be sold.

What doesn't add up in our whitepaper?

Bounty campaign is completely transparent. We just look on total number of website visit from all referral links and the same number for each participant. Clear scheme.

Here is that important bit from your bounty campaign announcement:

"There is a reward for participation in the bounty program. It will be distributed immediately after the pre-ICO and immediately after the ICO.
If more than $ 265,000 will be collected during the pre-ICO, the participants of the bounty program will be able to choose how to get their reward: in PCLP tokens or in ether (equivalent to the pre-ICO pricing). Dollar equivalent of the total award will not exceed 5% of the amount collected.
If from $ 250,000 to $ 265,000 will be collected during pre-ICO, 5% of the sold PCLP tokens will be issued and distributed among the participants of the bounty program.
Account is crucial for bounty-program participants; it also can be used by investors to track their investments. For bounty participants, the size of reward is proportional to the number of followings the participant's personal referral link. If the pre-ICO's minimal funding limit will not be reached, we will save your bounty progress (from your account) and this progress will be restored in the next trial of pre-ICO. If no pre-ICO will take place, no reward will be given to the bounty-program participants."

In order to earn the bounty participants must get investors to buy your tokens. That's a f***ing pyramid scheme. and there is no guarantee to earn any bounty.
When pre-ICO fails, there will be another pre-ICO, and so on...
Lack of info abot team? Yeah, you got it right, Ilya Gridniev's Facebook Profile:
https://www.facebook.com/ilya.gridnev.7587 - one picture posted two days ago (same as in whitepaper!), two friends and that's all - does this person even exist?
Not much more about the rest of the team.
Your product is supposed to have all bells and whistles, beating the existing and future competition at the fraction of the price. How you gonna do that?
Token buyback at a higher price - where is the money for that coming from?
Roadmap - in less than two years you are going to have not just working prototype, but ready to use product. That is impossible. Or you much further with the development than you claim you are, and you need funding for things not related to it - cars, apartments, holidays etc.

[ClapeyronRobotics]

Why so negative?

1) About team. If you can't find any info, this does not mean that it does not exist. As I said, we'll publish more info soon. If you can not wait, you can look through my personal VK account. In my friendlist you can find all team members. I can give my phone number or address, if you want.

https://vk.com/berzin11295 (VK)

2) About "f***ing pyramid scheme". Lol, man, you can apply your words to everything. We are just planning to reward people who help us to spread the info about our project. This is a part of marketing, lol!

3) About our roadmap etc.. We had been developing our robot several years, yes. But there were only 2 students. But today there are not students anymore. We have powerful core. There are graduates of MIPT, BMSTU (Russia), Czech Technical University. Yes, we are not 40 years old, but we have enough experience, knowledge and enthusiasm to complete roadmap tasks. We already have working prorotype. I'm sure, we can develop it to the final product. Robotics is my life, man.

Your criticism is empty. It's not even a criticism, just unreasonable butthurt.

[robinhande]

I think ICO'S should be illegal ... if you change it to a mining coin only..then..looks great.

There are many ICO'S.
it is reaching epidemic levels, so many scammers and speculators

[ClapeyronRobotics]

what do you think about our project?

What do I think about your project? IMHO there is no project. Why? No info on dev team anywhere in the web. Unrealistic roadmap. Your whitepaper just doesn't add up (and trust me, I read quite a few of them). Bounty campaign resembles a Ponzi scheme. It has written word

SCAM

all over it. Investors beware! You are about to lose your money! That's what I think about your "project".

Your words are not supported by arguments. I might agree with the lack of info about team only. But there is some information in any case, also we are going to make a video with the team. Roadmap is realistic if you try to understand our purposes for a roadmap period. It is: to finish navigation, to finish phrases recognition, to make the final design, to train robot to recognize objects and to grab them. That's all. After this period we will update software, but robot has to be sold.

What doesn't add up in our whitepaper?

Bounty campaign is completely transparent. We just look on total number of website visit from all referral links and the same number for each participant. Clear scheme.

Here is that important bit from your bounty campaign announcement:

"There is a reward for participation in the bounty program. It will be distributed immediately after the pre-ICO and immediately after the ICO.
If more than $ 265,000 will be collected during the pre-ICO, the participants of the bounty program will be able to choose how to get their reward: in PCLP tokens or in ether (equivalent to the pre-ICO pricing). Dollar equivalent of the total award will not exceed 5% of the amount collected.
If from $ 250,000 to $ 265,000 will be collected during pre-ICO, 5% of the sold PCLP tokens will be issued and distributed among the participants of the bounty program.
Account is crucial for bounty-program participants; it also can be used by investors to track their investments. For bounty participants, the size of reward is proportional to the number of followings the participant's personal referral link. If the pre-ICO's minimal funding limit will not be reached, we will save your bounty progress (from your account) and this progress will be restored in the next trial of pre-ICO. If no pre-ICO will take place, no reward will be given to the bounty-program participants."

In order to earn the bounty participants must get investors to buy your tokens. That's a f***ing pyramid scheme. and there is no guarantee to earn any bounty.
When pre-ICO fails, there will be another pre-ICO, and so on...
Lack of info abot team? Yeah, you got it right, Ilya Gridniev's Facebook Profile:
https://www.facebook.com/ilya.gridnev.7587 - one picture posted two days ago (same as in whitepaper!), two friends and that's all - does this person even exist?
Not much more about the rest of the team.
Your product is supposed to have all bells and whistles, beating the existing and future competition at the fraction of the price. How you gonna do that?
Token buyback at a higher price - where is the money for that coming from?
Roadmap - in less than two years you are going to have not just working prototype, but ready to use product. That is impossible. Or you much further with the development than you claim you are, and you need funding for things not related to it - cars, apartments, holidays etc.

Also, we have link to the vkontakte, where you can look at our accounts like on Facebook.

About our "Pyramid": very clear scheme, one more time:
we emit 5% from solded tokens and distribute them between ALL bounty participants. The size of awards for each bounty participant will be proportional to the ratio of website visits via your referral link to total number of website visits via all referral links.

Referral link is generated for each bounty participant. When he advertise us, he replaces "clapeyronrobotics.com" with his own referral link.

You can ask questions about bounty here too, if you don't understand smth and want to participate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2317282.new#new

About buying back: we have already counted the cost of robot. So, we can sell robot at $5000 price. About realistic roadmap was answered above. And we need money for a big team (not 2 people like co-founders), prototypes of the robot and etc.
As described in tokensale: $250 000 is the required amount for the development of final instance of robot. Even if we don't raise above, will still sales of robots.

And: second pre-ICO is about second attempt. All moneys will refunded if there is no hard cap according to the smart-contract.

[dss1986]

do you really think this project scam? 

[ElmetElmet]

do you really think this project scam? 

I am still not convinced. I know what I can see with my eyes. I still don't like the roadmap, still don't like the whitepaper, still don't like the bounty campaign, and any words from self-proclaimed "development team" can't change that. I admit that there is more info about them now, but it started popping up after my first post, so it's irrelevant. But it may not be an intended scam. Doing an ICO is just an easy way of rising funds without giving investors any assurance, and they know that they may get away with it, when their project fails. At best they just may be a bunch of kids with heads full of dreams, and those dreams will be shattered, when they clash with reality. Good luck to them and to investors, who, against my advice, decide to invest into that questionable project.

[soliton]

was always waiting for such personal hand in my house. Any thoughts on price for  off-the-shelf product?