BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)

[blastbob]

You might not won a full miner, but you just earned yourself 4 shares on the second miner in the second KNC groupbuy by Tyrion70 and me.

Thanks for good info gathering and continue doing so

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238336.0

[daggeteo]

Gents, please do keep the quoting to a minimum. Limit yourselves to one quote per post, for everybody's sake.

[Bitcoinorama]

You might not won a full miner, but you just earned yourself 4 shares on the second miner in the second KNC groupbuy by Tyrion70 and me.

Thanks for good info gathering and continue doing so

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238336.0

Haha that's awesome!

[KSV]

Swedish engineers man, awkward, introvert, funny and fucking smart

+1 just the way its supposed to be

[dwangoac]

Bitcoinorama, you have a very lengthy method of replying to questions which I am now thoroughly convinced is your way of ensuring you err on the side of over-communication.  I appreciate your sincerity and your efforts and I look forward to future responses from KNC.  Thanks and keep it up!

A.C.
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[Bitcoinorama]

Bitcoinorama, you have a very lengthy method of replying to questions which I am now thoroughly convinced is your way of ensuring you err on the side of over-communication.  I appreciate your sincerity and your efforts and I look forward to future responses from KNC.  Thanks and keep it up!

A.C.
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No sometimes, I'm traveling, so my answers are brief. Some times I'm chilling, like when I answered you I had just come back from the gym, so I had a bit of verbal diharrea...in any case my phone pings me with every response due to it hitting an email account associated with this forum login. I should really find away to turn that off it's wayy too invasive now. I was actually reading your comment before responding, whilst at the gym which is pretty sad to be honest!!

That and the fact I do actually enjoy writing, I'm pretty good at it!

[Coin_fan]

Do you think that KnC should choose Bitcoinorama as a PR person for the company?

Lets vote...

Bitcoinorama, you have a very lengthy method of replying to questions which I am now thoroughly convinced is your way of ensuring you err on the side of over-communication.  I appreciate your sincerity and your efforts and I look forward to future responses from KNC.  Thanks and keep it up!

A.C.
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[Bagpipe]

When were at the open-day the burn ins mentioned I think we're only 10 minutes and may even be to your wallet. I was surprised at the time at how short they said they would be, I assumed you need to test for long-term usage. Perhaps it was 10 hours then, but certainly wasn't days. I'm sure it's on the audio somewhere.

10 minutes is enough to KNOW with a fair degree of certainty that the hashing is defective or not. Why? It is the way the bitcoin is designed: the mathematical operation is computationally heavy (many repetitive steps), but the verifying process should be fast. That is why there is the "HW" in the cgminer, to show HW errors, some error rate can be easily tolerated by the user anyway, the number of accepted shares is what matters to you in the end.
If no major flamingo-ups a-la AMD880G chipset events occur, all should be well. And even that one occured only after 1-2 years of use, so AMD pays no attention to it. After that much time the miner should be obsolete anyway.

[Bagpipe]

KS, I want to point out some funny business.

When I mentioned the suspicious circumstances of the KnC you and the other guy discovered to the investor, he said something like:"it is always that was when you are starting a successful business."

Well, I just remembered:
Bill Gates and Microsoft: everything they did was a funny business in the early years, especially the scam with the MS-DOS they sold to IBM, they DID NOT have any MS-DOS to sell to them in the first place!
Next: Apple and Steve Jobs. What kinds of drugs people there were running on I don't even want to know an the massive scale of intellectual property thefts they made in the early years and continued to do so later is astounding. Luckily for them people at BOTH Xerox and HP were retards.

Basically, the funny business you found out about only tells me this may become a very successful business venture.

Anyway, I URGE ALL PEOPLE OF THE PLANET EARTH TO STOP INVESTING IN ASIC MINERS IMMEDIATELY. Or else. Emm.... it will be unprofitable for everyone?

[daggeteo]

...in any case my phone pings me with every response due to it hitting an email account associated with this forum login. I should really find away to turn that off it's wayy too invasive now.

The solution is to filter your email

[naRky]

Was there some news on open day about hosting in KNC? Or somebody now more about this?

[titomane]

Was there some news on open day about hosting in KNC? Or somebody now more about this?

It's easier to ask to read. It is also easier grinding food and drink. I'll Do?

[mandelmus]

It's amazing how small some of the pages become once you put KS on ignore.

LOL    ... come on now, be nice ... we need fair and balanced discussions

[Rampion]

To the people flaming KS and Bitcoinorama:

Cool off, guys. Both are doing their job. It's way better for the community to have them both, than having just one of them or none.

Bitcoinorama is very thorough and did a huge work, but it's true that he might be a little "over-enthusiastic" at times. Well, the truth is that he even would like to work for KnC, he admitted that. But this does not mean that he's dishonest, just that he is a little bit biased.

From the other side KS is playing devil's advocates, raising clever and adequate concerns, cooling off people's hope that turns in "wishful thinking" some times.

TL-DR -> we need them both. Keep up the good job, guys

[bitpop]

Rama is the inaba of knc, but with much higher morals.

[naRky]

Was there some news on open day about hosting in KNC? Or somebody now more about this?

It's easier to ask to read. It is also easier grinding food and drink. I'll Do?

whats the point of your reply?

[mandelmus]

Bitcoinorama, you have a very lengthy method of replying to questions which I am now thoroughly convinced is your way of ensuring you err on the side of over-communication.  I appreciate your sincerity and your efforts and I look forward to future responses from KNC.  Thanks and keep it up!

A.C.
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Ya, it's amazing how bitcoinorama has maintained his cool and not gotten upset over some of our posts ... he just keeps peacefully chugging away

[bitpop]

He's high

[titomane]

Was there some news on open day about hosting in KNC? Or somebody now more about this?

It's easier to ask to read. It is also easier grinding food and drink. I'll Do?

whats the point of your reply?

All we know is written in the forum. As easy as that

[mandelmus]

I understand that the first pre-order batch from KnC will be delivered first.  What is the estimated delivery month for the 2nd batch?  How do we know which order batch we are in?