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October 28, 2017, 07:28:10 PM
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This is my first post and i am a noob when it comes to the technical side of understanding the blockchain.

Today i seemed to have messed up with a transaction some how and now its stuck i will try and give as much detail as possible.

I have a wallet on my android called bitcoin wallet which i have used for over 2 years without fault. I wanted to get the private keys to retrieve my bitcoin cash. I found an app that was a bch wallet that allowed me to import the back up from my bitcoin wallet to get my bitcoin cash. I thought it would be safer to first empty my existing coins to another wallet as this app would have the private key to my bitcoin wallet. I downloaded electrum on another device and sent two transactions via the QR code

The first was for 0.001( just to make sure the address was correct)
Fee paid was 0.00005
Tx id is-
ce2d3da0be096030831d65a3ea58dc7d53e88f3d2817b0ca13f6ba3e7702376b

The second was for 0.83131529
Fee paid was 0.00185139
Tx id is-
d56e3deaf527b816846a82acedabaaedfb2453964b338022b691d2c9c19a1983

The there was a 3rd transaction in to my electrium wallet which was from hitbtc for the new bch i had sent from my new wallet to the exchange to sell for bcn and send back to electum wallet this tx when fine.

The cirst tx for 0.001 shows as low fee which i expected

Slbut the second tx for 0.83xxxx shows as Unconfirmed parent.

I have looked around google and the answers dont meet my situation.

The coins i sent to the electrum wallet have been sitting in my bitcoi  wallet for some time and all received tx show as confirmed so im confused.

Any help would be appreciated.

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October 28, 2017, 07:53:58 PM
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They're not yet stuck in limbo and have a chance of going through. There's almost 90,000 unconfirmed transactions in the network now, so yeah, your low fee is part of the problem.

Now here:

1. Your first tx as you note has too low a fee. At 22 byte/satoshi, https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ thinks it has a 90% chance to confirm from between 60 mins to infinity heh. Anyway... I've accelerated it so it should confirm within 20 hours, if not less. Once that happens...

2. The "Unconfirmed parent" in your 2nd transaction will be recognised as confirmed... thereby, all inputs in your 2nd tx will be confirmed, and then the tx itself will go through.

This link might make the connection clearer: https://blockchain.info/address/1AHhuFtyURozAgaZ9Pg8J4ZSXkTbNJFzKR

When you make a spend, make sure all the inputs you select are confirmed. Any unconfirmed input must first be confirmed before it can be spent.

So in summary, your 2nd tx includes inputs from your 1st tx. 1st tx must be confirmed before the 2nd one can.

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October 28, 2017, 08:22:42 PM
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They're not yet stuck in limbo and have a chance of going through. There's almost 90,000 unconfirmed transactions in the network now, so yeah, your low fee is part of the problem.

Now here:

1. Your first tx as you note has too low a fee. At 22 byte/satoshi, https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ thinks it has a 90% chance to confirm from between 60 mins to infinity heh. Anyway... I've accelerated it so it should confirm within 20 hours, if not less. Once that happens...

2. The "Unconfirmed parent" in your 2nd transaction will be recognised as confirmed... thereby, all inputs in your 2nd tx will be confirmed, and then the tx itself will go through.

This link might make the connection clearer: https://blockchain.info/address/1AHhuFtyURozAgaZ9Pg8J4ZSXkTbNJFzKR

When you make a spend, make sure all the inputs you select are confirmed. Any unconfirmed input must first be confirmed before it can be spent.

So in summary, your 2nd tx includes inputs from your 1st tx. 1st tx must be confirmed before the 2nd one can.

Thanks for the  boosting it. So its a waiting game then? Thank you
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October 29, 2017, 08:22:11 AM
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They're not yet stuck in limbo and have a chance of going through. There's almost 90,000 unconfirmed transactions in the network now, so yeah, your low fee is part of the problem.

Now here:

1. Your first tx as you note has too low a fee. At 22 byte/satoshi, https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ thinks it has a 90% chance to confirm from between 60 mins to infinity heh. Anyway... I've accelerated it so it should confirm within 20 hours, if not less. Once that happens...

2. The "Unconfirmed parent" in your 2nd transaction will be recognised as confirmed... thereby, all inputs in your 2nd tx will be confirmed, and then the tx itself will go through.

This link might make the connection clearer: https://blockchain.info/address/1AHhuFtyURozAgaZ9Pg8J4ZSXkTbNJFzKR

When you make a spend, make sure all the inputs you select are confirmed. Any unconfirmed input must first be confirmed before it can be spent.

So in summary, your 2nd tx includes inputs from your 1st tx. 1st tx must be confirmed before the 2nd one can.

Thanks for the  boosting it. So its a waiting game then? Thank you

As it turned out, the first transaction (accelerated) was finally confirmed just over three hours from the time I submitted it to a miner. As explained, this finally meant that all of the inputs for the second transaction were confirmed. The second tx had a decent enough fee and confirmed 2.5 hours after the 1st.

You've got all your inputs nicely merged now, well done:https://blockchain.info/address/14kvy6zYsCQJfT3G3xgraerurf9C8QKjkC

Next time, please don't:
1. use a low fee if you need the tx confirmed urgently. Always check with bitcoinfees.21.co or similar for an estimate
2. don't spend from an unconfirmed input that has a possibility of not getting confirmed.

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October 31, 2017, 07:19:37 PM
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Low fee is always a problem, if you want the transaction fast you should be generous. If you wanna play a game, let's wait for it; but it'll take time...
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