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October 29, 2017, 05:53:08 AM
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I have research about "Writing on money might be illegal". Then finally I found these Info. I will drop here them for you. Read and know.

Writing on money is called Mutilation of national bank obligations

 “Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.”

United States Code

TITLE 18 – CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I – CRIMES
CHAPTER 17 – COINS AND CURRENCY
§ 333. Mutilation of national bank obligations

However, that shouldn't scare you.  Legality exists to continue your enslavement.  Submit or not.

By possessing papers that have graffiti on them does not imply that the defacement was by the current possessor.
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October 29, 2017, 10:45:30 AM
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Okay until I read your last line I was scared! But I don’t think that anyone will write in obligation with federal reserves or other financial institutions in straight forward way. I mean there are so many articles, blogs and public readings who depicts the bad ways banking sector, abuse the financial system because it doesn’t serve the public well.


If thats happening then people will write for their justice and they have full authority of doing so.


According to first amendment of United States you have “Freedom of Speech and Expression”which means there wont be any problem as long as people are publishing something thats need justice in lawful way.

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October 30, 2017, 12:47:23 PM
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Well that's where you're wrong, writing on money and stamping money is legal. A common theme among people that think otherwise is that they think defacement is simply drawing on it, while that isn't true in the least. The only things that you can't do on the currency is attempt to change the denomination through drawing, advetise for a business / service / etc, or burn or shred the currency to the point where it would be regarded as not able to be part of circulation.

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October 30, 2017, 07:05:16 PM
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I don't live in the US but I have always though that it is illegal to vandalize fiat everywhere. Seriously, I get annoyed when I find bills with phone number on them. This is not like the movies b****s. You're not in Serendipity.  Grin
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October 30, 2017, 10:38:19 PM
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I don't live in the US but I have always though that it is illegal to vandalize fiat everywhere. Seriously, I get annoyed when I find bills with phone number on them. This is not like the movies b****s. You're not in Serendipity.  Grin

And it's supposed not to be fold, but sad to say, many people in my country fold the paper money and sometimes people squeeze it so much that it looks so bad.
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October 31, 2017, 07:39:42 AM
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writing on money in our country is too much.sometimes it is too much.But in country its not crime.But I think on this issue government should pass a law. Because Taka(৳) or money is our national asset.

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October 31, 2017, 08:17:19 AM
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I have research about "Writing on money might be illegal". Then finally I found these Info. I will drop here them for you. Read and know.

Writing on money is called Mutilation of national bank obligations

 “Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.”

United States Code

TITLE 18 – CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I – CRIMES
CHAPTER 17 – COINS AND CURRENCY
§ 333. Mutilation of national bank obligations

However, that shouldn't scare you.  Legality exists to continue your enslavement.  Submit or not.

By possessing papers that have graffiti on them does not imply that the defacement was by the current possessor.
This is probably too much of a rule for others but I think it is just right to implement rules regarding the vandalization of paper money. I am tired of seeing some messy paper bills that I often get as change from the public market and groceries. I doubt if someone will ever dare vandalize fiat currencies after this has been implemented on many countries. I don't find folding paper money wrong sometimes so I think this law needs a revision first.
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October 31, 2017, 08:40:09 AM
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I have research about "Writing on money might be illegal". Then finally I found these Info. I will drop here them for you. Read and know.

Writing on money is called Mutilation of national bank obligations

 “Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.”

United States Code

TITLE 18 – CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I – CRIMES
CHAPTER 17 – COINS AND CURRENCY
§ 333. Mutilation of national bank obligations

However, that shouldn't scare you.  Legality exists to continue your enslavement.  Submit or not.

By possessing papers that have graffiti on them does not imply that the defacement was by the current possessor.
This is probably too much of a rule for others but I think it is just right to implement rules regarding the vandalization of paper money. I am tired of seeing some messy paper bills that I often get as change from the public market and groceries. I doubt if someone will ever dare vandalize fiat currencies after this has been implemented on many countries. I don't find folding paper money wrong sometimes so I think this law needs a revision first.


Thats is a crimanal offence beyond national currency under the obligations of the national bank that clearly stated all the prohibited act or doing against the national bank bill will be charge to impresonment or fined because that is the basis of disrespecting money.
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October 31, 2017, 08:55:06 AM
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I don't live in the US but I have always though that it is illegal to vandalize fiat everywhere. Seriously, I get annoyed when I find bills with phone number on them. This is not like the movies b****s. You're not in Serendipity.  Grin

And it's supposed not to be fold, but sad to say, many people in my country fold the paper money and sometimes people squeeze it so much that it looks so bad.


           Sadly but that is also what i have noticed in my country. I don't even think that it is illegal anyway, well there are some who doesn't accept folded or those paper money that already looks like a tissue paper, but still most of them are being used as a currency, and i am not also sure if the banks are still accepting it.


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October 31, 2017, 09:13:10 AM
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It can be if it is intentional or have motives. I know there is a law but to arrest or fine someone is the hardest thing to do. What if this bill you have right now is already have graffiti on it and that was passed on you from the groceries as change. And does the government agency will have the time to go after one person and to another with a dollar bill being vandalised.

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October 31, 2017, 03:49:10 PM
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This regulations are present in European Union to so i suppose it is a standard situation considering that the currency are national treasure and since it is printed as a Governamental paper, i think it is somehow normal.
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October 31, 2017, 03:55:31 PM
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This wouldn't be a problem for people, the burden of proof here lies with the Government. They need to find evidence pointing you are the one who mutilated the U.S. Dollar not unless you are caught directly by a government authority. This law is created in order to protect and respect the United States own currency. Pretty tough punishment if proven guilty plus having a criminal record for vandalizing the currency is pretty big for a small crime.

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October 31, 2017, 04:39:29 PM
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How about some dirts on money? is it illegal too ?
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October 31, 2017, 04:44:20 PM
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Writing on bills isn't illegal, I'm fairly sure of that.  Writing isn't mutilation.   Cashiers even test the validity of high value notes with a marker--it's common practice.   In any case, how is this related to bitcoin?  And another point is that no one is going to get prosecuted for writing on money.  No law enforcement agency gives two shits about that.  Cops don't even enforce the no-texting-while-driving law, and that could get someone killed.

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November 01, 2017, 03:33:38 PM
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I don't live in the US but I have always though that it is illegal to vandalize fiat everywhere. Seriously, I get annoyed when I find bills with phone number on them. This is not like the movies b****s. You're not in Serendipity.  Grin

And it's supposed not to be fold, but sad to say, many people in my country fold the paper money and sometimes people squeeze it so much that it looks so bad.

Yeah, that really looks horrible. Not just the folding... it gets wet too. That really ruins the money. I'd want to at least experience polymer fiat before the government decides to force everyone into digital money.
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November 01, 2017, 03:35:18 PM
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The police isn't going to go after someone the defaces money.
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November 01, 2017, 03:39:13 PM
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Was there anyone already jailed because if writing something on a bill?


I use to write something one a bill but before I learned it, there were already a lot of bills pass through my hand which already have some writings on it - some were list of things to buy on a grocery store.  Grin
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November 01, 2017, 05:20:00 PM
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It is still a grey area to prove that the note is damaged in the possession of the note holder or not thus, I don't think any government should make any such decision and label it illegal. I appreciate the steps taken by the central bank of India in this regard.

* The RBI has clarified that currency notes with scribbles are legal tender - If banks refuse to exchange soiled notes, they can be fined INR 10,000.

This step prevented bank authorities from rejecting soiled currency notes. Oh the other hand, central bank also working in building awareness among general public about the same.

* RBI to launch awareness campaign for not writing on currency notes.

So there are viable solutions even without declaring it illegal. I am not supporting those who write on currency notes but I don't want innocent citizens to suffer.
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November 01, 2017, 05:27:17 PM
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Is thus even a thing? Who does that writing in cash money? Yet another reason why crypto currency in general is better than cash. You can't writ on it  Cheesy. But seriously how are they going to enforce this new law?
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November 01, 2017, 05:48:10 PM
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In fact, similar laws exist in all States. The fact is that paper money are property of the state. Their production costs money and in the event of a partial destruction of the state ensures their replacement. You are only the temporary owner of money. Why are you so surprised? If you hire a car you are responsible for his safety.
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