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October 29, 2017, 08:43:41 AM
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the person of lottery248 is hereby submitting an appeal of getting banned with only two of the possible posts appeared today. (ID: 408562)

one of the reply is believed as the reason i am banned, which is talking about my acknowledgement of the signature campaign was not closed, due to the failure of my notification.

i believe that the 30 day ban is very unreasonable in regard of today's behaviour, except the other infringement of the history. there are no available reason i can see as i am banned.

my signature will be added as soon as the replier need them.
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October 29, 2017, 09:38:31 AM
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It's your second ban. Your posts are terrible one/two liners and make little sense:

And why not send a fake passport?
How can they identify a person who is far away?
fake passport can be known with something advanced reverse searching, with that, in case you are using stock photos to fake it, they can indicate that easily.

bitcoin price is explicitly when pigs fly to go $7000 this week, but also when pigs fly that bitcoin price is never going above $7000. since the bitcoin is kinda volatile within $5400~$5900, theoretically the price of bitcoin is going with 'opposite bouncer'[/sup]1[/sup].

1 opposite bouncer: in normal bouncer, its reflection goes eventually lower due to gravity or friction, in opposite bouncer means the reflection will be higher between the last bounce. (idk if that means correctly Huh)

Are you using a translator? You should stick to your local board if you struggle with English. Wait it out.

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October 29, 2017, 09:44:55 AM
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It's your second ban. Your posts are terrible one/two liners and make little sense:

And why not send a fake passport?
How can they identify a person who is far away?
fake passport can be known with something advanced reverse searching, with that, in case you are using stock photos to fake it, they can indicate that easily.

bitcoin price is explicitly when pigs fly to go $7000 this week, but also when pigs fly that bitcoin price is never going above $7000. since the bitcoin is kinda volatile within $5400~$5900, theoretically the price of bitcoin is going with 'opposite bouncer'[/sup]1[/sup].

1 opposite bouncer: in normal bouncer, its reflection goes eventually lower due to gravity or friction, in opposite bouncer means the reflection will be higher between the last bounce. (idk if that means correctly Huh)

Are you using a translator? You should stick to your local board if you struggle with English. Wait it out.

i am here to apologise about the little length of relevant replies, but i did not use the translator at all and i am using the English i can do. in the first quotation, they would have done if they had seen with problems. in the second quotations, i am probably confused of that.

theoretically the second ban would be 14 days rather than 30 days. did i got something certainly wrong?

i have barely been posting, by the way.
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October 29, 2017, 09:53:07 AM
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but i did not use the translator at all and i am using the English i can do. in the first quotation, they would have done if they had seen with problems. in the second quotations

Where did you get this from:

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1 opposite bouncer: in normal bouncer, its reflection goes eventually lower due to gravity or friction, in opposite bouncer means the reflection will be higher between the last bounce

I've never heard of that and there's no hits on google.



i have barely been posting, by the way.

You don't really need to on Coinroll but just because you make few posts doesn't make it ok.



theoretically the second ban would be 14 days rather than 30 days. did i got something certainly wrong?

i have barely been posting, by the way.

Bans can be any duration staff feel appropriate given the individual circumstances. I reduced your current ban to 14 days but I'm going to officially change the second sig spam ban to 30 days because people don't seem to be learning.  

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October 29, 2017, 10:27:13 AM
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-snip, lag prevention-

in case i am going to the local board i am supposed to be, i will be in this trouble as well. based on Chinese board (i live in hong kong), they do not allow my signature campaign for gambling kind, which i would fear of if i would get banned for that reason. although i am native of Chinese, my grammar regarding the such is worse than English.

for the definition you said you did not find them in google, i am apologising that the misuse of words, to be honest that use was not intended to troll or something.

i would accept that the ban is because of short sentences. for the terrible English skills, i would believe i am not the only one could not all the way qualify the bitcoin forum standards, i am in the dark of why i would be the one banned.

i know using unskillful English deserves ban, however, you might not know me in the actual world, i actually have dyslexia which often affects my way to speak. you may say that there are no exception for the people using such, as if i was unbanned for this there were more banned users for similar reason, to appeal with the reason i have used. i understand and i have ability to read/type in English, based on my ability the so-called terrifying English is more obvious using the Google translate, particularly from Chinese to English.

i did not have any other account for ban evasion, nor would i attempt to violate the rule.
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October 29, 2017, 12:34:32 PM
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inability of editing my post, therefore i have to make a new one, and this is not a defense.

i admit that the English is kind of unskillful, yet i did not even use the translator (the pattern i use would not even convert into a valid sentence in my native language as an example). before you would state me 'the content cannot be generally understood would be considered spam', there are following measures to consider or spot:

their intention of reading. nowadays people in the internet are really lacking the intention to read posts' content considered 'not generally understood' then tag the relevant posts as unsubstantial immediately once they are fed up of, instead of providing alternate means give a hand to the posters. i understand that providing them are not their business, but this is why they would not learn from the further repliers specifically.

i have certain examples of giving correction to the contents from newbie or junior member, using the quotation, you can find it from my last posts. despite of only appeared in off-topic section, i really have my purpose to give a hand to them.


posters' intention of posting spams. typical spammer would either post the content totally irrelevant to the topic such as advertisement, ignore the rule of the site, resume doing the same act immediately (or after a short period like within a few months) once they have their ban ended. sometimes spammers are acting in purpose which is more profitable than typical signature campaign, which is called farming as you know.

the potential harm of the forum. the spam could be really destructive or even encourage random people to conduct spams, should be prevented. for the minor, should have tried to put them back the right track such as educating them about grammar, unless they are alts (to farm accounts) or they are ignoring the means to have them improved.
for that matter, i believe warning the minor offenders by banning at first, is subject to damage of reputation regarding 'how moderators will treat the new users in case of mistakes as they could not change easily' instead of 'how the/that forum will improve their experience about something related upon discussion or communication'.

indeed always posting the replies with just two lines or even one will be considered spam, cannot be defended at all, and the longer sentences does not all the way mean it will become more constructive. logically with two of these measures, people should either say as much as they want within the guidelines, or simplify it if more explanation invalidates the constructive standard.

keep in mind that i am not eliminating my guilty this time, nor am i wanting to legalise the unsubstantial posts here, i just wish the bitcoin forum would be more considerate when taking certain actions dealing with this and similar cases.

last but not the least, if my ban is still staying, then i should not be the only one to be banned, right?
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October 30, 2017, 04:22:10 PM
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Asians have THE worst trouble with English around here and in general.   
You're very lucky you didn't get a permaban out of this, but I suspect that
even with a 30 day break from bitcointalk, the garbage will continue after
it's up.  Maybe join a sig campaign that pays for local board posts?  I'm
sure there's plenty of topics to spam on the Chinese/Hong Kong boards. 
In either case, you got two 'warnings' so far, so don't screw up a third time.
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October 30, 2017, 06:17:59 PM
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Asians have THE worst trouble with English around here and in general.   
thanks for the great generalization, im asian too so i guess that means i have the worst english possible that's worse than what you would get out of google translate.

Maybe join a sig campaign that pays for local board posts? 
most of those campaigns encourage spam anyways, they hardly mange their posters and pay for pretty much any post, wouldn't really solve the problem of spam in the long run.

indeed always posting the replies with just two lines or even one will be considered spam, cannot be defended at all, and the longer sentences does not all the way mean it will become more constructive. logically with two of these measures, people should either say as much as they want within the guidelines, or simplify it if more explanation invalidates the constructive standard.

not necessarily. there are posts that a reply consisting of a short sentence, or even a simple yes or no answer would suffice. just because a post is short doesn't mean its instantly considered spam.

last but not the least, if my ban is still staying, then i should not be the only one to be banned, right?
you wont, there are always plenty of spammers that plague the forum, and you sure as hell wont be the last to be banned. there are only so many staff members though, and it takes time to get around to banning the spammers as they come.

there's nothing here. message me if you want to put something here.
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