Are the mods getting paid from this forum?

[Burdy]

Would be interesting to see how the good ol' IRS sees this non-owner and not an official nonprofit forum structure but now a bunch of mods admitted and claimed btc addresses receiving income to themselves.

to my knowledge none of the forum owners or hosting occurs in the US, so its probably exempt to the laws of the IRS

Could apply to a few users most likely but really doubt anyone will hear anything unless the get reported.

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[User705]

Would be interesting to see how the good ol' IRS sees this non-owner and not an official nonprofit forum structure but now a bunch of mods admitted and claimed btc addresses receiving income to themselves.

to my knowledge none of the forum owners or hosting occurs in the US, so its probably exempt to the laws of the IRS

thats actually pleasant to hear

[malevolent]

Would be interesting to see how the good ol' IRS sees this non-owner and not an official nonprofit forum structure but now a bunch of mods admitted and claimed btc addresses receiving income to themselves.

to my knowledge none of the forum owners or hosting occurs in the US, so its probably exempt to the laws of the IRS

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/contact-us

Where are you located?
We are located in the US. [...]

LONDON TRUST MEDIA, INC.
2885 Sanford Ave SW
Suite 20138
Grandville, MI 49418

If under subpoena, PrivateInternetAccess.com may release data in order to comply with legal obligations or in order to enforce the PrivateInternetAccess.com Terms of Service and/or other agreements.
PrivateInternetAccess.com may release data in order to protect the rights, property and/or safety of PrivateInternetAccess.com, its constituents, and/or other visitors and clients.

Yes, I know this is about the VPN they are offering but I wouldn't be surprised if they gave in under pressure for some content on this forum (e.g. the Securities or the Gambling section).

[Raoul Duke]

Would be interesting to see how the good ol' IRS sees this non-owner and not an official nonprofit forum structure but now a bunch of mods admitted and claimed btc addresses receiving income to themselves.

to my knowledge none of the forum owners or hosting occurs in the US, so its probably exempt to the laws of the IRS

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/contact-us

Where are you located?
We are located in the US. [...]

LONDON TRUST MEDIA, INC.
2885 Sanford Ave SW
Suite 20138
Grandville, MI 49418

If under subpoena, PrivateInternetAccess.com may release data in order to comply with legal obligations or in order to enforce the PrivateInternetAccess.com Terms of Service and/or other agreements.
PrivateInternetAccess.com may release data in order to protect the rights, property and/or safety of PrivateInternetAccess.com, its constituents, and/or other visitors and clients.

Yes, I know this is about the VPN they are offering but I wouldn't be surprised if they gave in under pressure for some content on this forum (e.g. the Securities or the Gambling section).

Good thing the world datacenters aren't ALL in the US, then...

[malevolent]

Good thing the world datacenters aren't ALL in the US, then...

Yeah, I know about that, but do you know in which country the server that hosts this forum is located?

edit: seems to be NL but if the company is US-based that might not be enough

[Raoul Duke]

Good thing the world datacenters aren't ALL in the US, then...

Yeah, I know about that, but do you know in which country the server that hosts this forum is located?

edit: seems to be NL but if the company is US-based that might not be enough

So, what will they do? Arrest everyone? Like they did with Pirate and all the other american scammers?
oh, wait... 

You guys sure like to bend over to the US gubermint... Need vaseline?

[Matthew N. Wright]

If this forum is just a business, one that has deceptive business practices and misrepresents their intentions, then there is no reason to support the business any longer.

[Raoul Duke]

If this forum is just a business, one that has deceptive business practices and misrepresents their intentions, then there is no reason to support the business any longer.

The exact same answer you should've gotten everytime you came to this forum to present your crazy business ideas.
Oh, well, you can always go back to your friend Vladimirs' forum.

[malevolent]

Good thing the world datacenters aren't ALL in the US, then...

Yeah, I know about that, but do you know in which country the server that hosts this forum is located?

edit: seems to be NL but if the company is US-based that might not be enough

So, what will they do? Arrest everyone? Like they did with Pirate and all the other american scammers?
oh, wait...  

Not now but who knows what they come up with in the future.

You guys sure like to bend over to the US gubermint... Need vaseline?

No, I'm not that type of person and I'm glad that I don't live there and don't have to hear people worrying with any PhinSen crap etc.

[Matthew N. Wright]

If this forum is just a business, one that has deceptive business practices and misrepresents their intentions, then there is no reason to support the business any longer.

The exact same answer you should've gotten everytime you came to this forum to present your crazy business ideas.

I've never been involved in "deceptive business practices", and whatever mistakes my companies or I have made, I've always made up for them, keeping transparency and customer interests above my own.

Oh, well, you can always go back to your friend Vladimirs' forum.

Vladimir's integrity matches Theymos' in this instance. I wouldn't want to have a forum with either one of them in charge any longer. In the past 2 years I've learned that despite my constant mistakes and few manic episodes, I have more integrity than most of the people I've worked with. Many of the "leaders" in this community have fallen to greed, are slaves to paranoia, cannot accept criticism or admit their faults and mistakes, and continue to try and excuse their shady business practices in any way that benefits them.

This last episode, finding out that BFL ad money goes to pay moderators who are kicked out for mocking BFL and are not able to give BFL a scammer tag, is just one of a long history of accepted acts pf corruption. Eventually everyone will need to stand up for what they believe in and ask questions, and for me that was this week. Rather than dismiss everything as being ramblings of jealous people, why not ask yourself what you have to lose from accusations being true?

All I can see is more evidence that his community needs to start seriously considering developing an actual non-profit forum of its own aside from this business.

[Raoul Duke]

If this forum is just a business, one that has deceptive business practices and misrepresents their intentions, then there is no reason to support the business any longer.

The exact same answer you should've gotten everytime you came to this forum to present your crazy business ideas.

I've never been involved in "deceptive business practices", and whatever mistakes my companies or I have made, I've always made up for them, keeping transparency and customer interests above my own.

Oh, well, you can always go back to your friend Vladimirs' forum.

Vladimir's integrity matches Theymos' in this instance. I wouldn't want to have a forum with either one of them in charge any longer. In the past 2 years I've learned that despite my constant mistakes and few manic episodes, I have more integrity than most of the people I've worked with. Many of the "leaders" in this community have fallen to greed, are slaves to paranoia, cannot accept criticism or admit their faults and mistakes, and continue to try and excuse their shady business practices in any way that benefits them.

I still remember some Ellet vaporware that magically appeared the same day the bitcoincard thing was announced. Where's the Ellet, Matt? Posting about vaporware and how well it was going just to screw up a potential competitor screams of deceptive business practices and misrepresentation to me.
You're still here, and hell, most people would still do business with you, despite whatever they say contrary to that. I think you should be thankful not everyone is so unforgiving as you.

[Matthew N. Wright]

I still remember some Ellet vaporware that magically appeared the same day the bitcoincard thing was announced.

The Ellet was being designed 3 months before "Bitcoincard" ever made any announcements. There were 3 prototypes, each smaller and sleeker than the previous. One prototype video was put up on Youtube as well, but but funding had been a problem (costs about a million bucks for a run of 50,000 of them). With the advances of technology and taking what we learned since then, the old Ellet model no longer makes sense (Apple and Google will end up capturing that market themselves). There were thousands of dollars invested into the Ellet by generous people in the community. Despite being defrauded and spending most of the funds on development of prototypes and design by the company, I personally paid back each and every investor out of my own pocket. Talk about integrity.

Posting about vaporware and how well it was going just to screw up a potential competitor screams of deceptive business practices and misrepresentation to me.

Ironically, that is what "Bitcoincard" did. Where is their product? And yes, I agree that my presentation was off (I seem to remember apologizing for that publicly too).

You're still here, and hell, most people would still do business with you, despite whatever they say contrary to that. I think you should be thankful not everyone is so unforgivable as you.

If you mean "unforgiving", I am thankful there are sane people (mostly), but that doesn't stop me from constantly pushing for something better. Integrity does not take a vacation when you are not affected personally by something. Real integrity calls you to seek out and shed light on deception and corruption. You have always seemed like a rebel of sorts, disinterested in being a part of a corrupt system. In this instance however, it seems you're defending the corruption (Maged too). It's disappointing to me that a normal user of the forum needs to call this out, and that other moderators who make waves are kicked out.

[Raoul Duke]

If you mean "unforgiving"

oops, that's it.

other moderators who make waves are kicked out.

wait, wut? who? I hope you're not talking about DiabloD3, because his behaviour went way past "making waves".
AFAIK, "making waves" is still allowed and welcomed in here, as long as you don't use your moderation powers to only get your view out and silence any other opposite views.

Truth is, there will never be a point in time when everybody is happy. We all have our own views on what is right and wrong, etc..

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

We all have our own views on what is right and wrong, etc..

This this this. Frequently there are situations where you will have to annoy / piss off either group A or group B. BFL ads is a good one - ban BFL ads, 'censorship'. Don't ban BFL ads, support 'scams'.

[escrow.ms]

I'm amazed to see that this forum doesn't have any privacy policy, not even a set of rules & regulations.

[El Cabron]

If this forum is just a business, one that has deceptive business practices and misrepresents their intentions, then there is no reason to support the business any longer.

Please back up your claim and get the fuck out. You will not be missed. However I bet you are just trolling.

[ElectricMucus]

If this forum is just a business, one that has deceptive business practices and misrepresents their intentions, then there is no reason to support the business any longer.

Please back up your claim and get the fuck out. You will not be missed. However I bet you are just trolling.

Both of you.

[a1phanumrc]

If this forum is just a business, one that has deceptive business practices and misrepresents their intentions, then there is no reason to support the business any longer.

Pot calling the kettle black?

[r3wt]

Someone who can't shut down a site clearly doesn't own it, wouldn't you say?

So you're saying the US government owns this site?

Wat?

How in the world did you think that was a logical response?

you give him to much credit.

[a1phanumrc]

If this forum is just a business, one that has deceptive business practices and misrepresents their intentions, then there is no reason to support the business any longer.

Pot calling the kettle black?

He would say no.

I've never been involved in "deceptive business practices"

I've noticed. He seems to honestly think he's fooling people... or just in denial.