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The idea is not unique but good. Having property to back up the value of your token is a safe idea.
So basically, you want to raise $50 million and buy properties. I assume all the $50 million goes to properties otherwise you immediately devalue the token.
So how will the value of the security behind the token (the properties) increase 1566% within a few weeks/months ? Your property portfolio would go from $50 million to $783 million. How could you explain this jump?

Thanks.

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November 02, 2017, 08:17:27 AM
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Hi szfinx.

Thanks for the questions. Yes, all money raised is invested. Let me explain how the calculation works:

The investment is based on an aggressive gearing model.
What is the essence of gearing? – Using the bank's money (or financing) to increase the size of an investment in order to increase the returns on your investment outlay.
Basic example
You invest 5,1 Ether (X)
We borrow 45,88 Ether (Y)
Total property Investment = 50,98 Ether (Z)
Over time the value of the property increases to 104,38 Ether (T) and the Bank loan is reduced to 10,62 Ether (P) (Due to rental payments)
Over Time expenses = 8,86 Ether (K)
Refer to page 24: SCENARIO 2 – 90% GEARING
Value of coin= [(T)-(P)-(X)-(K)]
Original coin Value appreciation forecast = [(T-P)-K-X]/X *100%= 1566%
[(104,38-10,62)-8,86-5,1]/5,1 *100%= 1566%
Its on page 31 of the white paper and the graph explains it well.

So token value is based on future value of the company.

I hope that helps explain it but I am happy to answer any questions.
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November 02, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
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Just checked out the Propthereum White paper and  this explanation makes sense. Thanks!
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November 02, 2017, 11:56:14 AM
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Good prospects, I'll keep an eye on this ICO.
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November 02, 2017, 12:41:51 PM
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I like the idea of. It will simplify our life. Can you give us some more details about this concept?
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November 03, 2017, 08:55:19 AM
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After I downloaded and read the whitepaper looks all reasonable and makes me interested to know more about this project. I will prepare funds to join ICO. I'm sure this project will be a success. thanks.


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November 03, 2017, 12:39:59 PM
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Adding Real-life value to a token is extremely important for the token as well as the movement behind it.
This might be one of the ways that crypto-currency will succeed in every day life - in the real world and become widely accepted.
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November 03, 2017, 01:22:59 PM
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Good prospects, I'll keep an eye on this ICO.

Thank you so much!
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November 03, 2017, 02:57:07 PM
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Hi joitheaddiapir,

Please refer to the white paper: link:
Page 31 explains the concept very well we hope.
If there are any specific questions, we are happy to assist in answering those questions.


After I downloaded and read the whitepaper looks all reasonable and makes me interested to know more about this project. I will prepare funds to join ICO. I'm sure this project will be a success. thanks.
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November 03, 2017, 03:02:32 PM
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Blockchains generally are only about the "deltas" and not the entire blockchain, otherwise it would be impractical right from the get go. Every block only includes the differences. The problem is that these differences get thrown into a database that itself is growing far too large, so you can get by an example the new direction Vitalik from ethereum brings up is to split this out so you almost have subnetworks that are subordinates of the master. Of course, it is still early so we need to get more details. Now my main question is if Propthereum will have a secure database for the assets, and what kind of assets you are willing to manage?
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November 03, 2017, 03:35:16 PM
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I will follow closely
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November 03, 2017, 05:26:48 PM
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Projects that are being backed by properties/assets is good. It can attract more investors because we know that in time, properties are always appreciating in terms of value. Loss is minimal to zero here so this project is good and well thought of. Best of luck to the team and hope you raise the funds within your timeframe. Will keep an eye for this ico.

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November 05, 2017, 08:18:30 PM
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Really looking forward to this ICO, will be investing!
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November 05, 2017, 09:29:41 PM
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And this project has to do with many well-known PROPY project? The name is very similar and that project was also about real estate.

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November 05, 2017, 09:48:13 PM
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Hi szfinx.

Thanks for the questions. Yes, all money raised is invested. Let me explain how the calculation works:

The investment is based on an aggressive gearing model.
What is the essence of gearing? – Using the bank's money (or financing) to increase the size of an investment in order to increase the returns on your investment outlay.
Basic example
You invest 5,1 Ether (X)
We borrow 45,88 Ether (Y)
Total property Investment = 50,98 Ether (Z)
Over time the value of the property increases to 104,38 Ether (T) and the Bank loan is reduced to 10,62 Ether (P) (Due to rental payments)
Over Time expenses = 8,86 Ether (K)
Refer to page 24: SCENARIO 2 – 90% GEARING
Value of coin= [(T)-(P)-(X)-(K)]
Original coin Value appreciation forecast = [(T-P)-K-X]/X *100%= 1566%
[(104,38-10,62)-8,86-5,1]/5,1 *100%= 1566%
Its on page 31 of the white paper and the graph explains it well.

So token value is based on future value of the company.

I hope that helps explain it but I am happy to answer any questions.

So basically investment buys a downpayment on a property and title would be assigned to a lending bank? How you will get a loan from bank - you would need to guarantee payments based on company income or cash in the bank to cover that mortgage?

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Blockchains generally are only about the "deltas" and not the entire blockchain, otherwise it would be impractical right from the get go. Every block only includes the differences. The problem is that these differences get thrown into a database that itself is growing far too large, so you can get by an example the new direction Vitalik from ethereum brings up is to split this out so you almost have subnetworks that are subordinates of the master. Of course, it is still early so we need to get more details. Now my main question is if Propthereum will have a secure database for the assets, and what kind of assets you are willing to manage?

The blockchain technology is going to be used to simplify and allow for investors to participate where they might not be able to otherwise. For example, general crowd funding requires investors to be verified and foreign currency exchange can be tricky to get around when it comes to sending money and investing in companies overseas. We are using Blockchain technology to give investors the opportunity to invest in something with the potential for astronomical gains which otherwise wouldn’t be possible without blockchain technology. Once the crowdsale is completed the Property assets will be purchased through fiat currency. With this being said, Propthereum is able to purchase property with promising returns and create value for PTC token holders to increase their gains on a CryptoCurrency exchange
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November 06, 2017, 02:41:25 PM
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Hi szfinx.

Thanks for the questions. Yes, all money raised is invested. Let me explain how the calculation works:

The investment is based on an aggressive gearing model.
What is the essence of gearing? – Using the bank's money (or financing) to increase the size of an investment in order to increase the returns on your investment outlay.
Basic example
You invest 5,1 Ether (X)
We borrow 45,88 Ether (Y)
Total property Investment = 50,98 Ether (Z)
Over time the value of the property increases to 104,38 Ether (T) and the Bank loan is reduced to 10,62 Ether (P) (Due to rental payments)
Over Time expenses = 8,86 Ether (K)
Refer to page 24: SCENARIO 2 – 90% GEARING
Value of coin= [(T)-(P)-(X)-(K)]
Original coin Value appreciation forecast = [(T-P)-K-X]/X *100%= 1566%
[(104,38-10,62)-8,86-5,1]/5,1 *100%= 1566%
Its on page 31 of the white paper and the graph explains it well.

So token value is based on future value of the company.

I hope that helps explain it but I am happy to answer any questions.

So basically investment buys a downpayment on a property and title would be assigned to a lending bank? How you will get a loan from bank - you would need to guarantee payments based on company income or cash in the bank to cover that mortgage?

The income of rental is used to pay the bank interest and capital repayments. The model is unique and this relationship with the bank is something that has taken decades to grow. We have the experience and the relationships to be able to establish a high yielding property investment through high gearing as per the spreadsheets in the whitepaper
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November 06, 2017, 02:48:17 PM
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And this project has to do with many well-known PROPY project? The name is very similar and that project was also about real estate.

Hi Krezz2017,

We are completely separate from this project and have no affiliations to it
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