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November 02, 2017, 01:51:54 PM
Last edit: November 03, 2017, 11:32:09 AM by achkata
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Hello community! I have been reading much in here about different icos, gambling sites and so on. Here the time comes to have registered in here and share my thoughts.

Edit: when replied I received an email from Bitsler stating they made a mistake. They said they got the money back on my account and I can withdraw. Will keep you updated...

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Hello again,

I had verify something with your account.
You are indeed right, we let players recover their losses, as long as it doesnt become an abuse, mainly the reason you got declined was because you already had one in the past for free (and not so long ago). I lacked a further investigation.

I apologize for the missread on your account. You got credited again and can withdraw.

Kind Regards,
Gustavo

I have an 11lvl account with bitsler(wagered 5.53BTC) as a little more than 5BTC I wagered with my own Doge deposits and 0.52 BTC playing with faucets.

I have made more than 9 deposits over time accounting more than 130 000 Dogecoins and had withdrawn less than 10 000 Dogecoins and only 0.0028 BTC(I earned playing with faucets).

After losing my 130k doges, for 10 days I have been playing with faucets only, yesterday I got lucky and made 0.0196 from faucet. Then gues what happened, my withdraw got declined. When I Asked the support why I got this reply:

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Gustavo (Bitsler)

Nov 1, 22:26 EET
Hello,

The system has detected a faucet farm behavior and/or multi-accounting.

You are not allowed to complete this withdraw.

Keep in mind that Bitsler is a casino, you can use faucet to test the site or to play for fun, but playing only for free and try to make money from faucet is not the main idea.

You already got a free withdraw from the faucets, I cant let you take another one Im sorry.

Kind Regards,
Gustavo


I have been reading so much in here about blocked accounts, declined withdraws and most of the cases they had a reason to do it. But what they said now is really funny, as of matter the fact I haven't broken any of the rules.

Here are the facts: only 1/10 of what I wagered was from faucets, so I was not playing mainly with faucets for sure. I have deposited 9 times more than 130k doges and withdrawn a few times less than 10k. Even if they processed the withdraw I would be still at a loss.

I don't know about you but now I can clearly call this stealing as they did not have any reasons to do it.

Furthermore, I have made a video about it showing and explaining everything in details:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhhN-CXsny

I am curious how bitsler's admin will comment this situation ...



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November 02, 2017, 03:47:43 PM
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If this statement follows out of a ToS, or policy, then it is perfectly valid. They are allowed to offer you X number of withdrawals should they want to. Since you're the accuser, you should check the ToS/policy and look for it. If it is missing, then you might be onto something.

I am curious how bitsler's admin will comment this situation ...
You should PM him a link to this thread.

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November 02, 2017, 04:31:32 PM
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If this statement follows out of a ToS, or policy, then it is perfectly valid. They are allowed to offer you X number of withdrawals should they want to. Since you're the accuser, you should check the ToS/policy and look for it. If it is missing, then you might be onto something.

I am curious how bitsler's admin will comment this situation ...
You should PM him a link to this thread.

The thing is they make false statements advertising offering higher faucets with higher levels and then they say "faucets are to the site only". So why then faucets increase as they can not be properly used? I can test the site even with 100 faucet.

As I gave example in the video in order to get to level 10, 4.3 btc is required and with 1% house edge this means that from 100 000 bets you get 49500 wins and 50 500 loses. Let's assume we reached 4.3 btc wager with 100 000 bets then one of our bets equals 0.00004300 (4.3 / 100 000) as the house edge is 1% the casino is ahead with 1000 bets.

1000 bets x 0.00004300 = 0.043 BTC you pay indirectly to reach level 10.

Why I am angry is because I have been playing mainly to wager and level up for higher faucets(being deceived by the false faucets statement). I paid the price of 0.043 BTC indirectly while wagering and even then I continued playing wagering 5.53btc.

so I have given the total to the casino more than 130 000 doges which equal 0.025 btc + 0.053 from wagering = 0.078 btc and then they refuse to give me withdraw for 0.02 that is a shame.



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November 02, 2017, 04:43:00 PM
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you should check the ToS/policy and look for it.

I think these are the rules:


" Posted June 13, 2017, 10:17 am

faucet farming, multi-accounts and buying/selling accounts a...

Hello everyone,

The faucet farming = making all your profits from faucet on the long term or using two accounts to build a bankroll with tips/ claim faucet is FORBIDDEN. (e.g If you win from faucet and deposit to make us letting you withdraw, we will decline it and give you back your deposit.)

Having more than 2 accounts by person/IP address/household/family is FORBIDDEN.

Trying to buy, sell or give an account is FORBIDDEN.

Using the exchanger for other players is FORBIDDEN.

Getting an edge against the casino without any risks is FORBIDDEN. (e.g playing with faucet, winning from faucet then depositing to withdraw all the balance etc.)

Doing business on bitsler.com without any authorization from us is FORBIDDEN.(e.g selling accounts, selling cryptocurrencies, mixing coins, money laundering etc.)

We can block your faucet ability without any warning.

14. FAUCETS

Only for earnings from faucets, we reserve the right not to authorize withdrawals.

ATTENTION: Having more than 2 accounts is strictly forbidden(by person/IP/house/family). If you are found to be in violation of this rule all of your accounts will be blocked and any funds in them will be forfeited.


What is self-referral?
Signing up under your own affiliate link in order to get referral earnings for all your bets.

Can I refer myself, in order to earn more affiliate profits?
No this isn't allowed.

Bitsler is a gambling website, it is not a faucet website. The idea of a gambling website is that a player and the owner of the casino both take risks, and the luckier win the coins. If you don't take any risks to make money, you are not following the rules. Keep that logic in mind.


If you are found to be in violation of these rules all of your accounts will be blocked, muted and any funds in them will be forfeited.

source: https://forum.bitsler.com/topic/view/0678c766b7 "


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November 02, 2017, 06:05:16 PM
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Seems faucet causes a lot of problem on bitsler, I would like to see something like FJ has, for example Bitsler coin which will be free but without value.
Also read this: Keep in mind that Bitsler is a casino, you can use faucet to test the site or to play for fun, but playing only for free and try to make money from faucet is not the main idea.
Sorry man but don't use faucet to make some money despite the fact that you luckily win so big. If everyone will use faucet, then bitsler won't be casino. For faucet and dice there is one great and old website freebitco, they won't block you for that reason. On another hand bitsler is very fair with polite and sociable staff.

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November 02, 2017, 06:28:01 PM
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the whole faucet thing should be removed if the sites won't pay their players , cause really what's the point ?? to test the site ??
as shield said sites should create a useless token to test the site and then users can decide after testing if they want to go with real money or not

what's the point of having faucets since every time someone win using the faucet you cancel the withdrawal ?!!??

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November 02, 2017, 06:57:38 PM
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the whole faucet thing should be removed if the sites won't pay their players , cause really what's the point ?? to test the site ??
as shield said sites should create a useless token to test the site and then users can decide after testing if they want to go with real money or not

what's the point of having faucets since every time someone win using the faucet you cancel the withdrawal ?!!??

The point is to deceive people and make them believe faucet will make them rich.
Firstly people start with no deposit, playing with faucet only, if they are lucky enough they make the minimum for withdrawing. Then bitsler approves the withdraw as it is usually maximum 0.003, this makes people start to think the site is legit and deposit money to play and wager for a bigger faucet. And after some time they will be in my situation having lost their money, firstly having the hope they will be able to recover part of loss from the faucet until they get withdraw declined.

Not to mention that with all my 130 000 doges, there was time where I was on 150 000 and had wagered around 3btc instead of taking profits I continued playing in order to reach level 10 for higher faucet and guess what has happened ...

If they remove the faucet they will lose 90% of the players...
If faucets were really legit they would be reduced with time. Now bitcoin touched $7000 and the faucets have the same amount when bitcoin was $2500 ...
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November 03, 2017, 10:51:17 AM
Last edit: November 03, 2017, 11:02:38 AM by Baryom
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Hello,

I didn't read the whole case yet. I just checked your account and it seems that Gustavo was wrong. Your win is 100% legit. I will talk to him about this. By the way, we have more and more abusers every single day. Thanks to you, I know that I have to decrease the faucet from now on, I am paying a tons of money from faucet every single month and we only received complains from abusers (except you because it was our mistake) .  Your account has been recredited by Gabriel.

Cheers,

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