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November 04, 2017, 12:55:49 PM
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I was reading this Forbes article:  https://www.forbes.com/sites/perianneboring/2016/06/28/the-blockchain-brain-drain-how-the-states-are-driving-block[remove this]chain-companies-abroad/#4ab643ce83fc

and it talks about what many of us know. It is difficult for blockchain-based startups to grow in the United States compared to other countries due to regulations. On the other hand, the US has a dominant position in the more mainstream tech industry with Silicon Valley among other cities focusing on growing tech. As someone who believes in both American tech/innovation and the inevitable blockchain revolution, I am interested in investigating further ICOs based in the US. There is just too much talented tech labor, available funding, and, frankly, interest for the US to not eventually embrace blockchain startups in a mainstream way. In fact, given the current saturation of the market, I expect that this process may already be starting.

Given that I believe blockchain growth in the US is likely to explode in the medium-term future, I think now is a great time to invest while prices are depressed. As has been mentioned, the US offers a more difficult regulatory environment than other countries at the moment. This is a double-edged sword. It makes it difficult for some startups to get off the ground, but on the other hand, it does offer a kind of vetting process. Why would a cash-grabbing scam set up shop in the US as opposed to anywhere else where it would be easier? I think that if a company chooses its HQ to be in the US, it signals a long-term vision. And that obviously they see themselves as legitimate. These companies are more likely to deliver profits to their early investors.

tl;dr  The ICO market is saturated right now, which depresses prices, even though future growth will be quite large for those that survive ICO. Being located in the United States is an easy signal to look for that indicates legitimacy. Thus, now is a great opportunity to invest in ICOs taking place in America.

So my question to the community is:  what upcoming/ongoing American ICOs do you know about and are you most likely to participate in?

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November 04, 2017, 02:10:04 PM
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I would agree.  There is a lot more risk for scammers to be operating in the states when they can easily setup a foreign base. 

Qchain in my signature is based in Orange County.  In fact the head guy is in a PHD program at UC Irvine.

Also Science is based in the LA area as well but I think it’s only open to Accredited investors: https://science.tokenhub.com
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November 04, 2017, 02:29:39 PM
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Safe bet is to go for one of the big ICOs (maybe at least 1 million$ worth of interest) with big names behind the project. That way it is much more likely that you will have a good project and no dodgy business happens.

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November 04, 2017, 02:47:04 PM
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Safe bet is to go for one of the big ICOs (maybe at least 1 million$ worth of interest) with big names behind the project. That way it is much more likely that you will have a good project and no dodgy business happens.

Do you know any big ICOs going on in the US?

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November 04, 2017, 02:51:21 PM
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Safe bet is to go for one of the big ICOs (maybe at least 1 million$ worth of interest) with big names behind the project. That way it is much more likely that you will have a good project and no dodgy business happens.

Do you know any big ICOs going on in the US?

You sound like a SEC/FED employee looking for someone based in the USA not playing by the rules. Nice try.

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November 04, 2017, 03:05:40 PM
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Let's not forget this whole Accredited Investor bullshit that's cropping up now.  US-based ICO's are forcing people to be accredited investors.  Have to be a certain net worth in order to invest goes against crypto in general. 




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November 04, 2017, 06:22:44 PM
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due to complexity of regulation in US, and expensive legal fees, i have to agree that running ICO from US is not optimal.
There are a lot US blockchain projects actually try to get their company/foundation registered elsewhere instead of US.

For US ICO, so far I know
1) Qchain.co which they have been preparing since early this year Feb. 2017, they are very serious, and taking all things carefully before launching their ICO now.  Which I think they might have missed the ICO golden time.  But at least it shows that they are really working hard and take things seriously.  On the other side, it just shows that how hard and costly to run ICO with US registered company.

2) Munchee.io was forced to stop their presale.  Details are unknown to me, but from what I read from others it was due to US SEC's laws and regulation.

3) Graft.network team mainly from US, with team scatter around Europe and US.  Just likes Qchain.co, they have proper legal firm with them to advise on ICO, and they might have their foundation established else where rather than in US.  ICO will be on 18 Jan 2018.

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November 05, 2017, 04:19:51 AM
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Safe bet is to go for one of the big ICOs (maybe at least 1 million$ worth of interest) with big names behind the project. That way it is much more likely that you will have a good project and no dodgy business happens.

Do you know any big ICOs going on in the US?

You sound like a SEC/FED employee looking for someone based in the USA not playing by the rules. Nice try.

haha! I think my OP was a pretty well-laid out argument for why I'm interested in American ICOs. Like I said, I want to invest in the new Google, not some fly-by-night operation. It's just a lot harder to trust projects coming out of countries with no track record of success in the tech field. It's not a coincidence that Google, Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft, etc etc are all American. Chinese ICOs could be interesting, too, but China is even tougher on ICOs than the US. Maybe a topic for another thread.

Idk if this thread confirms my suspicions, but it does seem like the US is falling behind in terms of blockchain development. I'll have to check out graft.network, and of course, Qchain.

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November 05, 2017, 04:27:52 AM
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Does the original country of an ICO matter at all? Isn't this the crypto world? Grin

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November 05, 2017, 05:04:58 AM
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Good points and questions here but I think that the problem with investing in US blockchain startups is more of a problem of availability than anything else. Most of the "good ideas" in the United States are funded by Venture Capitalists and Angels so there are not too many "good ideas" left unfunded for the smaller variety of "decentralized" players that the ICO's attract. Good luck finding a legitimate project available on the public markets in the USA. Facebook didn't even have an IPO until its valuation was so extreme that the small investor was priced out, remember? Talent costs money in the United States and the Venture Capitalists are approached first.

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November 05, 2017, 05:11:44 AM
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USA today can't be considered a stable place for financial laws.
Though it was a best place for starting and running a business for long time, the authorities are getting stricter for anything that goes against the current laws. Which you can aspect to change anytime.

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November 05, 2017, 05:12:58 AM
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Now most of ico are below the issue price, a lot of good projects are the same, what is the difference between the United States ico?

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November 05, 2017, 05:19:59 AM
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Most ICOs won't allow USA investors to invest.

So i'm not sure what exactly the positives of having an American ICO is? Sure America is a big country but then, most of the volume and demand for ICOs these days are actually from Asian countries such as Korea and China.

IMO, doesn't really matter which country the ICO comes from.

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November 05, 2017, 05:25:20 AM
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USA today can't be considered a stable place for financial laws.
Though it was a best place for starting and running a business for long time, the authorities are getting stricter for anything that goes against the current laws. Which you can aspect to change anytime.
if true american is investigating ico i think there is good, let ico there not on scam,
hopefully there is good regulation, and ico not banned

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November 05, 2017, 05:42:58 AM
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American people cannot invest in most ICOs which are not regulated, they will not lose money. It is clear that usa projects are safer and worth to invest

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December 11, 2017, 07:48:41 AM
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American people cannot invest in most ICOs which are not regulated, they will not lose money. It is clear that usa projects are safer and worth to invest

The problem is that projects which originate in the United States cost more to initiate because of their regulatory requirement that have to be arbitrated. Plus, most of the projects that originate in the United States don't need to solicit funding from the public because they can get the money thru other methods.

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December 11, 2017, 07:50:35 AM
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American people cannot invest in most ICOs which are not regulated, they will not lose money. It is clear that usa projects are safer and worth to invest

The problem is that projects which originate in the United States cost more to initiate because of their regulatory requirement that have to be arbitrated. Plus, most of the projects that originate in the United States don't need to solicit funding from the public because they can get the money thru other methods.

What methods you mean?
I thought ICOs are banned in US Shocked
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December 11, 2017, 08:34:17 AM
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Safe bet is to go for one of the big ICOs (maybe at least 1 million$ worth of interest) with big names behind the project. That way it is much more likely that you will have a good project and no dodgy business happens.

Do you know any big ICOs going on in the US?

You sound like a SEC/FED employee looking for someone based in the USA not playing by the rules. Nice try.


haha spot on

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December 11, 2017, 01:42:35 PM
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American people cannot invest in most ICOs which are not regulated, they will not lose money. It is clear that usa projects are safer and worth to invest
This could be a reason. Although these are the best ideas. Still they do not take so serious.Of course, their profits will not be bad for investing in it.

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