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July 14, 2019, 02:45:42 AM |
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He really has it in for the project, doesn't he?
Merit donations welcome. I had a hack attack. I am Steven3iii normally.
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August 13, 2019, 07:40:48 PM |
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Dear FOR community,
Today, we're releasing the official migration website and have partnered with the Livetree team to airdrop SED tokens. - Migration website & rebrandingThe alpha version of the migration website is ready and features a Frequently Asked Questions section to answer numerous questions about the upcoming migration and a working block explorer for the actual chain. Migration website: https://migration.forcenetwork.ioThe chain is not yet fully synchronized. Once it has, we will highlight the developer's addresses, so everyone can have a look at the developer's funds. - Livetree PartnershipWe decided to collaborate with Livetree. For those of you who don't know, Livetree is a Blockchain-based streaming platform. They plan to offer individuals an unparalleled and interactive experience in viewing by intertwining elements of social media. To participate in the SED tokens airdrop, you can visit the dedicated website here: https://www.livetree.com/partner/forcenetworkThank you for your support in helping us to deliver a better, fair and censor-free Internet for all! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fim2.ezgif.com%2Ftmp%2Fezgif-2-108833118d3b.gif&t=665&c=62tjMProhCdeQA)
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August 21, 2019, 08:18:05 AM |
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Dear FOR community,
We're starting this new week with some informations about our upcoming nearby milestones. - Old codebase updateAs the dev addresses have been compromised, we will release a new version of the actual wallet to secure the dev funds and will include some changes on the wallet design. We're also working on releasing the Ubuntu 18.04 & MacOS Mojave versions at the same time. - RebrandingWe're working on the new identity and shall present it to you in the coming days. -Whitepaper translationWe will release this week the french version of the whitepaper. - Migration websiteThe chain is still not fully synchronized. Once it has, we will highlight the developer's addresses, so everyone can have a look at the developer's funds. - Livetree PartnershipWe hope you claimed your free 90 days subscription and 5 SED tokens, in case you did not yet, you can still visit the dedicated website here: https://www.livetree.com/partner/forcenetworkThank you for your support in helping us to deliver a better, fair and censor-free Internet for all!
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September 02, 2019, 08:51:58 PM |
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Good news, will all coins be transferred to the new platform?
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September 06, 2019, 12:21:50 PM |
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Good news, will all coins be transferred to the new platform?
Hello, The wallets have new UI and new dev addresses but the network is the same, previous wallets are backward compatible too but we strongly encourage to update to the latests wallets as we will not support previous ones anymore.
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September 08, 2019, 12:13:30 PM |
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How big % is new dev fund of supply
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September 08, 2019, 06:25:34 PM |
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How big % is new dev fund of supply
The percentage is the same as before : 10%
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September 08, 2019, 06:39:09 PM |
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That is a negligible premine if intended to cover all future expenses.
What's the logic here?
I reserved 33% for $MM development to account for liquidity, market making and all production and operations related expenses. 10% of this is private founders fund. So the net % is something like 25% of supply.
10%, this is what dev can keep for private investment.
It's good for investors with 10% and the dollar value of this amount depends on price performance of new coin which we all hope will be excellent.
I presume that this information will be presented after launch.
It is better to over fund during first launch so that you don't need to dilute afterwards, but even listed stocks always dilute from time to time, certainly tech and biotech but even established companies. But this will be a non reissuable crypto.
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September 11, 2019, 01:25:10 PM |
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That is a negligible premine if intended to cover all future expenses.
What's the logic here?
I reserved 33% for $MM development to account for liquidity, market making and all production and operations related expenses. 10% of this is private founders fund. So the net % is something like 25% of supply.
10%, this is what dev can keep for private investment.
It's good for investors with 10% and the dollar value of this amount depends on price performance of new coin which we all hope will be excellent.
I presume that this information will be presented after launch.
It is better to over fund during first launch so that you don't need to dilute afterwards, but even listed stocks always dilute from time to time, certainly tech and biotech but even established companies. But this will be a non reissuable crypto.
This wallet update keeps the same consensus, the swap at the opposite will include a bigger premine for development purposes.
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September 11, 2019, 03:30:30 PM |
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Dear FOR community,
This week features an updated version of the wallet and some informations about our upcoming nearby milestones.![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimages2.imagebam.com%2Fe2%2Fa8%2F88%2F029d4b1315945015.png&t=665&c=gfHIUFKBNPZLNg) - Old codebase updateA new version of the actual wallet is released. The wallet update is recommended but not mandatory. We have released a Mac OS Mojave and a Ubuntu 18.04 version. https://github.com/forceunited/force/releasesWe also updated the masternode scripts if you wish to install it on Ubuntu 18.04. https://github.com/forceunited/force-masternode-setup-ubuntu- RebrandingThe new logo, wallet designs and the new bitcointalk ANN are released, we will update all the social platforms during the week. - Migration websiteThe chain is 75% synchronized on the explorer. Once it is, the developer's address will be visible and everyone will be able to use the explorer. - Livetree PartnershipWe hope you claimed your free 90 days subscription and 5 SED tokens, in case you did not yet, you can still visit the dedicated website https://www.livetree.com/partner/forcenetworkThank you for your support in helping us to deliver a better, fair and censor-free Internet for all!
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September 13, 2019, 02:28:00 PM |
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Wow! I can't believe you guys have a working Mojave QT wallet now, amazing! I have just finished syncing it and it works seamlessly. You have been achieving a lot of milestones these days, which reassures me that the Force team will bring to life this revolutionary Internet. I'm happy to see progress with Force. Keep up the great work!
What are your next steps?
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September 13, 2019, 11:31:03 PM |
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Wow! I can't believe you guys have a working Mojave QT wallet now, amazing! I have just finished syncing it and it works seamlessly. You have been achieving a lot of milestones these days, which reassures me that the Force team will bring to life this revolutionary Internet. I'm happy to see progress with Force. Keep up the great work!
What are your next steps?
Thank you for the nice words! The next steps we will be following are: - the installation of the masternode governance website, - the migration of all the articles from our medium blog to our own domain - a video presentation of our future network
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September 14, 2019, 01:33:21 PM |
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Nice work. I hope you can pull this off. Keep going guys.
Thanks for your support! Please follow our weekly updates for more informations regarding our progresses!
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September 15, 2019, 06:59:09 AM |
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Bon jour guys Would you do this project if there would be no Bitcoin? 😊
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September 19, 2019, 11:59:22 AM Last edit: September 20, 2019, 10:28:30 AM by jukeee |
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Bon jour guys Would you do this project if there would be no Bitcoin? 😊
Cheers.
Hello, good question! We are looking at Internet decentralization and privacy since the arrival of Internet in our homes. With the advent of mass hosting services, big providers own more than 50% of Internet ( https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/web_hosting/all). Bitcoin and by extension the Blockchain allows to exchange values securely between individuals. That's why we through that if values can be exchanged securely and privately, informations should not depend on third parties. ISPs and Hosting servers are the third parties we want to eliminate by providing these services directly on the network by anyone. TOR is providing a privacy layer but running malicious exit nodes would allow someone to spy on you and that's why we decided to incentivize these kind of nodes. So I would say that without Bitcoin, we would not have done this project and without Internet there would be no Bitcoin. Have a nice day! Don't hesitate if you have further questions.
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September 19, 2019, 01:21:25 PM |
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Dear FOR community,
This week features lot of informations about our upcoming nearby milestones. - Masternode governanceWe are working on a masternode governance website so that everyone can vote on our next proposals. - Blog migrationFor SEO purposes, we decided to migrate all the articles available on Medium on our own blog and domain name. - Old codebase updateThe new version of the actual wallet has been released last week. We have released a Mac OS Mojave and a Ubuntu 18.04 version. https://github.com/forceunited/force/releasesWe also updated the masternode scripts if you wish to install it on Ubuntu 18.04. https://github.com/forceunited/force-masternode-setup-ubuntu- Migration websiteThe chain is 95% synchronized on the explorer. Once it is, the developer's address will be visible and everyone will be able to use the explorer. - Livetree PartnershipWe hope you claimed your free 90 days subscription and 5 SED tokens, in case you did not yet, you can still visit the dedicated website here https://www.livetree.com/partner/forcenetworkThank you for your support in helping us to deliver a better, fair and censor-free Internet for all!
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November 08, 2019, 01:47:19 AM |
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Hi any updates regarding the swap?
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November 09, 2019, 06:14:07 PM |
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The increase of EU laws (AML5 / GDPR) doesn't match anymore with the vision of the original WP. In this context, I don't feel we can continue in the same way and I feel obligated to integrate KYC to the project.
The community is split about this decision and many are against it in the context of a decentralized Internet. I think KYC and decentralized Internet are compatible but many objected that a decentralized Internet shouldn't be controlled nor subject to governments regulations.
On my side, I won't continue to lead the project if we do not comply to regulations. We then decided to put up a vote to choose how the project should be maintained. @frphm proposed himself as a leader (even temporarily) to pursue the vision @Michael Dye had in the original whitepaper and I'm proposing myself to continue the project by including KYC to it.
So you have 2 options now, continue with me and integrate KYC to the product or follow @frphm lead who will continue in the way the project was first thought.
Please vote on discord by adding the force logo under the name of the leader you would like to proceed with. The one with the most vote will keep or take back control of all the social networks, github and dev funds.
Thank you for your trust in Force Network and thank you for your support in helping us to deliver a better, fair and censor-free Internet for all!
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1. Force as is is a perfect privacy coin without KYC but there is no market demand. This can change quickly and it is working well with wallet and masternodes/staking. 2. STEX delisting was a huge blunder, this is now a $12 million daily volume exchange. Get Force listed so it can join any market reversals easily 3. Incorporation is good inorder to attract establishment capital but forget decentralized ideas or anynomity with this method. Lawyers is a money pit they should be kept away 4. Incorporation was way too expensive, in sweden the price is a few hundred euro depending on type 5. How much is the outstanding amount to be paid for coders? How much more code is planned/is code completely ready? How much is maintenance? 6. Not using funds for coinexchange listing was a very good move, it was 5 btc and CE is deactivating its exchange until market reverses 7. Decentralized internet is most likely a pipedream considering the powers of intelligence community and military industrial complex. It is unknown to what extant there is backdoor access to all windows operating systems in the world which means that each pc with internet connection can be monitored similar to remote desktop viewing. 8. Even if the state of mass surveillance is not at that level yet, it is clear that 99% of mainstream are not qualified to manage banking security on blockchain beyond very simple tasks like downloading a wallet from a website or mobile app and making transactions. This means that anonymous decentralized internet is a miniscule market and even in that market it is unlikely that simply because force is one perfect privacy coin, there are many other unintended ways of leaking information on a pc. So the only solution to completely decentralized computing is by building your own hardware from start, pulling your own fiber lanes, using your own distribution nodes and so on and so on. The reality here is that it is most likely global mass surveillance with hundreds or thousands of backdoors by atlantic cable intercapetion, distrubtion central and router infiltration by ”maintenance engineers” who can wire tap Ips. ISPs are forced to save all info on users and google is a huge global mass surveillance machine as everyone knows by now, everything you do online is recorded forever and stored in mountain bases in the US desert and offshore island bases. It is naive to assume that a small privacy coins can ever compate with a global military industrial complex with annual budget in the trillions. All surveillance is automated with AI and word filtering so it is a dragnet with satellites and gps ultra high res facial recognition from space etc 9. Which leads me back to point 1 and that is going back to basics. Force wallet is perfect, staking is perfect, everything is working 100% perfectly so there is no need to do much more because the market value is rock bottom and when merchant onramping begins this coin along with many other will be integrated with atomic swap auto exchangers. As long as there is some form of activity and the chain itself is working Force is well positioned for a moderate surge with market reversal and evolution. But expectations must be kept low because we are not talking dollars per coin here. Maybe back to $0.05 and stable. 10. Privacy masternodes is a small ecosystem and niche market, as soon as there is decentralized auto swappers and merchant payment gateways this coin and many more can enjoy a great lifespan as an alternative crypto investment but it is very niche. And if you don't belive that this is possible then we have a problem spelled B-T-C and $145 billion market cap with 10+ year old tech. Truth is this private sector crypto space will remain stable and enjoy growth but 99% of future crypto will be centralized by cloning index coins like waves and migrating fortune 500 companies and integrating it with crypto NASDAQ Dollars. 11. Force was pumped in a super cycle bubble and dumped on speculative failure during the worst bear market in history since the inception of the industrial revolution. We have been here during up and down and both conditions are wrong. Force real market valuation is somewhere inbetween both extremes. These type of coins don't really need active development to fulfill a niche function because they will be scooped up in global growth as soon as there is auto exchange integration. But like I said, few hundred thousand market cap, maybe few million not more on 5 year horizon. Value is based on number of active users. 12. Keep it simple, market this as a privacy altcoin part of a masternode ecosystem with fast confirmation speed and easy staking. Get it on an exchange with active community and then wait for market reversal and evolution of auto swappers which will collectivize all these coins from 2017 & increase liquidity. I know that this is the only way forward for this niche ecosystem because I am well familiar with waves platform and they are trailblazing collectivist crypto, maybe because is was Russian engineered. 13. Masternode privacy ecosystem can capture $10-50 billion market over 5 years divided on a few hundred chains. Anywhere from $100k-$100 million per brand. 14. Real decentralization can only emerge by fusing all these scattered micro coins, together they are well positioned to compete with global economy subsector. All these brands will soon become know simply as "privacy masternodes" and bulk indexed with sector growth tracking like russell 2000. The ones who got a foot in the door back in 2017 will be part of that ecosystem but this space is saturated since many years so there will be zero competition going forward which is good.
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Guys, where can I read the news about the coin swap?
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