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November 23, 2017, 06:59:41 AM
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Actually there is no long-term stragedy, cause every stragedy has their own errors inside and you will be busted.

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November 23, 2017, 07:15:06 AM
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Actually there is no long-term stragedy, cause every stragedy has their own errors inside and you will be busted.

Even without errors you will slowly bleed out thanks to the house edge.

The only strategy that helps is bankroll management to make gambling less emotional.
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November 23, 2017, 08:34:53 AM
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Actually there is no long-term stragedy, cause every stragedy has their own errors inside and you will be busted.

Even without errors you will slowly bleed out thanks to the house edge.

The only strategy that helps is bankroll management to make gambling less emotional.
Exactly, accept your destiny that you are going to lose, spend only a little amount in gambling because you will never gonna win in the long run.
When there is a house edge, you should know what to do, this game is only design for entertainment and the house will wipe out your bankroll if you stay aggressive with chasing your bets. When you are open to loses and you can easily accept it, gambling will be fun as you will not long for more.

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November 23, 2017, 09:02:13 AM
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Actually there is no long-term stragedy, cause every stragedy has their own errors inside and you will be busted.

Even without errors you will slowly bleed out thanks to the house edge.

The only strategy that helps is bankroll management to make gambling less emotional.
Exactly, accept your destiny that you are going to lose, spend only a little amount in gambling because you will never gonna win in the long run.
When there is a house edge, you should know what to do, this game is only design for entertainment and the house will wipe out your bankroll if you stay aggressive with chasing your bets. When you are open to loses and you can easily accept it, gambling will be fun as you will not long for more.
Once your money have been deposited on gambling sites then consider those money are gone already because we are really destined to lose up in the long run and only our luck would able to change that fate on a particular day or time. Gambling strategies are just being created not totally on beating up the house but just on adding up a little spice in our game play.

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November 23, 2017, 01:15:40 PM
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Ok, I was talking about a ''strategy'' here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2420633.msg24806542#msg24806542

Basically it gives you more chances to win than you would have when betting only once. I personally think that you can have a strategy but mainly to save time. Martingale for instance is extremely time consuming especially if you start with something like 1 satoshi base bet, even if you have a bot betting for you. You spend hours and hours even days or weeks for a very small payout with the same risk as other strategies.

The ''strategy'' I linked is basically the fastest and best odds that you can have so I suggest you to use that one instead of wasting your time with other pointless strategies that wont increase your chances anyways.
I don't agree with your math.
Chance to win first bet is 33% and chance to win second bet is 24.75%, i am not sure how you did that calculation and came to 49.5% but it is wrong, if you lose first bet chance to win second bet (with increasing multiplier from 3X to 4X) is still 24.75%.

Obviously each independent bet has their own % If you lose both the 33% and the 24.75% - the chance of that is (1-0.33) * (1-0.2475) = 0.504175 (Just like losing 2 times in a row at 50% has 25% chances of happening and so on) chance of success is 1 - 0.504175 = 0.495825 = 49.5825% That's the math, it's not wrong. Obviously the second bet is still 24.75% and the first bet is 33% but combined, the chances of losing both are the ones showed above just like if you bet 2 times at 50% you have 25% chances to lose both bets, each bet is still 50% regardless.

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November 23, 2017, 07:57:09 PM
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You don't need to have any strategies when your on gambling. Just prepare and be in yourself that you could do win and earn money to save.

In most of the games we don't need to use gambling strategies, but some skill based games like sports and poker, you must need to use your mind in these type of games. I usually play sports betting, that's why i am saying in it strategies wise you could win, no doubt luck wise we win but strategy help us to prove ourself in the game.  

yup in sports betting and other skill games you must use your skill set or else you can't make any bet blindly. Only in casino games, we can play blindly because you can use any strategy finally your luck will decide either you win or not.

Come to the strategy sharing part I think if any strategy works well for a long time we will never share that with others this is true.
Most gamblers wont really share their strategies to others which is in fact a reality because most of us wont really like to have competition or other people do have the same ways on earning as you do. This kind of attitude is normal since people are always greedy but yet there are still people who are happy on sharing their profitable strategies.
This is correct those that have a winning strategy in a game like sports betting are not going to share the strategy with anyone, they may give tips to some people but they never tell their exact methods if they did then their methods may lose effectiveness as more people begin to use them.
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November 23, 2017, 09:50:43 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean about dice games. To me dice is 100% game of luck because there is nothing we can do anymore other than waiting for the result. So for me there is no strategy for dice games, so you do not need to waste time looking for strategy.
 
Dice games may look like a pure luck, but trust me- they are not. And the numbers we see as random- they are not. In the big picture you can win the game if you have enough resource to calculate properly. I call it "the theory of balance of numbers". If you roll xthousand bets from 1 to 1000, the average number you get at the end is 500+-5%. The low rolls are balancing the high numbers over time and vice versa. The trick is to catch that pattern. Ever wonder why after 50 usually is another 50ish? why usually after 80 is 20? This is not the rule, but you get my point. Even casinos can not beat the math if you read it properly. And fuck the house edge- it is only for players doing payout 2x. That has nothing to do with your game if you play 9x...
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November 23, 2017, 11:38:03 PM
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Actually there is no long-term stragedy, cause every stragedy has their own errors inside and you will be busted.

True, there is none on gambling because the result depends entirely on its internal setup.  We can find some strategy but it is only useful for a short period of time.  Using it again and again for a long period of time will lose its effectiveness and will give us a losing result.  I have tried this several times and it really happen.  I win in the beginning but in a long run, I lost all my bankroll fund.

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November 24, 2017, 12:19:46 AM
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My prefered gambling sites are dice and video poker (for Texas Hold'em, I have own strategies  Grin )
Maybe you have some nice strategies against boring with little maths.
Dice may have some stratedgies something like some outside the box play that you may do. For texas hold'em it comes from our own strategies. Btw. I don't get it clearly what maths games you wanted to say. But if it on the dice games i have a gkkd strategy that will help you. Just sum up all the wagers increase and decrease rates to get a corresponding rate of amount you need to place. Just explore it you i gave you the clues.


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November 24, 2017, 12:45:05 AM
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Actually there is no long-term stragedy, cause every stragedy has their own errors inside and you will be busted.

True, there is none on gambling because the result depends entirely on its internal setup.  We can find some strategy but it is only useful for a short period of time.  Using it again and again for a long period of time will lose its effectiveness and will give us a losing result.  I have tried this several times and it really happen.  I win in the beginning but in a long run, I lost all my bankroll fund.

That's impossible, if a strategy works for a short period of time it should work for a long period of time too. There is no such thing as a strategy that only works for a short period of time. You might have won in the beginning but that's just your personal experience. I'm sure there are a ton of examples of people losing everything in their first few bets. If you have a strategy that works for the first 100 bets then it should work for the next 100 bets as well.

The only strategy that ''works'' is something that gives you the best odds with the least amount of bets to save your time. Martingale wastes a lot of time with a lot of very small bets but it doesn't give you better odds than many other strategies making it a very bad strategy overall.

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November 24, 2017, 07:51:08 AM
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Actually there is no long-term stragedy, cause every stragedy has their own errors inside and you will be busted.

True, there is none on gambling because the result depends entirely on its internal setup.  We can find some strategy but it is only useful for a short period of time.  Using it again and again for a long period of time will lose its effectiveness and will give us a losing result.  I have tried this several times and it really happen.  I win in the beginning but in a long run, I lost all my bankroll fund.

That's impossible, if a strategy works for a short period of time it should work for a long period of time too. There is no such thing as a strategy that only works for a short period of time. You might have won in the beginning but that's just your personal experience. I'm sure there are a ton of examples of people losing everything in their first few bets. If you have a strategy that works for the first 100 bets then it should work for the next 100 bets as well.

The only strategy that ''works'' is something that gives you the best odds with the least amount of bets to save your time. Martingale wastes a lot of time with a lot of very small bets but it doesn't give you better odds than many other strategies making it a very bad strategy overall.

In general, no strategy works! Long run or short run. There is no such thing, since gambling is only about chance. Your strategy might have work in the short but that could have been just a coincidence. Even if it worked in the long run it must have been also just coincidence. If you want to really test it if it works, then it should at least survive a billion events. Which I don't think any gambling strategy will still be working before it reach one billion events.
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November 24, 2017, 04:00:59 PM
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There is a system. In all dice games applies the same rule. As I said before- numbers are looking for balance. Not going to explain in detail, just watch the short video I made- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQI0r9In_ao&feature=youtu.be
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November 24, 2017, 06:54:02 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean about dice games. To me dice is 100% game of luck because there is nothing we can do anymore other than waiting for the result. So for me there is no strategy for dice games, so you do not need to waste time looking for strategy.
 
Dice games may look like a pure luck, but trust me- they are not. And the numbers we see as random- they are not. In the big picture you can win the game if you have enough resource to calculate properly. I call it "the theory of balance of numbers". If you roll xthousand bets from 1 to 1000, the average number you get at the end is 500+-5%. The low rolls are balancing the high numbers over time and vice versa. The trick is to catch that pattern. Ever wonder why after 50 usually is another 50ish? why usually after 80 is 20? This is not the rule, but you get my point. Even casinos can not beat the math if you read it properly. And fuck the house edge- it is only for players doing payout 2x. That has nothing to do with your game if you play 9x...
You are deceiving yourself, there is no pattern the casinos do not benefit from their games if there was a pattern that someone could decipher, the games are random in order to avoid any kind of strategy to work against them so you are just seeing what you want to see.
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November 24, 2017, 07:56:37 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean about dice games. To me dice is 100% game of luck because there is nothing we can do anymore other than waiting for the result. So for me there is no strategy for dice games, so you do not need to waste time looking for strategy.
 
Dice games may look like a pure luck, but trust me- they are not. And the numbers we see as random- they are not. In the big picture you can win the game if you have enough resource to calculate properly. I call it "the theory of balance of numbers". If you roll xthousand bets from 1 to 1000, the average number you get at the end is 500+-5%. The low rolls are balancing the high numbers over time and vice versa. The trick is to catch that pattern. Ever wonder why after 50 usually is another 50ish? why usually after 80 is 20? This is not the rule, but you get my point. Even casinos can not beat the math if you read it properly. And fuck the house edge- it is only for players doing payout 2x. That has nothing to do with your game if you play 9x...
You are deceiving yourself, there is no pattern the casinos do not benefit from their games if there was a pattern that someone could decipher, the games are random in order to avoid any kind of strategy to work against them so you are just seeing what you want to see.
Ok, not going to prove you wrong or right. Just note, I am not talking about a strategy or pattern... Not giving you free answers either...
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November 25, 2017, 12:07:36 PM
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To anyone looking for any kind of strategy, don't get your hopes up. There is no such thing that would consistently win you money in any gambling site. Usually those who are showing it is profiting are just cutting their whole betting history to show the part where they are actually winning, but for sure they are also losing from it in the long run. Since there is really no gambling strategy that can beat the house! It has been proven countless times.

It really depends.

If you are relating your strategy to a game that is not fully based on luck, and is against other people( such as poker), it is possible to have a strategy.
Poker is against other people, I agree that you can not beat the house, but you are not playing their against the house at all.

But if you are relating to a luck based game, then you literally have no chance to win at the long run, doesn't matter what strategy you are using, I hear people trying to sell their dice strategy, but how can you win at dice when you are always at a disadvantage against the house?
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November 26, 2017, 08:05:59 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean about dice games. To me dice is 100% game of luck because there is nothing we can do anymore other than waiting for the result. So for me there is no strategy for dice games, so you do not need to waste time looking for strategy.
 
Dice games may look like a pure luck, but trust me- they are not. And the numbers we see as random- they are not. In the big picture you can win the game if you have enough resource to calculate properly. I call it "the theory of balance of numbers". If you roll xthousand bets from 1 to 1000, the average number you get at the end is 500+-5%. The low rolls are balancing the high numbers over time and vice versa. The trick is to catch that pattern. Ever wonder why after 50 usually is another 50ish? why usually after 80 is 20? This is not the rule, but you get my point. Even casinos can not beat the math if you read it properly. And fuck the house edge- it is only for players doing payout 2x. That has nothing to do with your game if you play 9x...
You are deceiving yourself, there is no pattern the casinos do not benefit from their games if there was a pattern that someone could decipher, the games are random in order to avoid any kind of strategy to work against them so you are just seeing what you want to see.
Ok, not going to prove you wrong or right. Just note, I am not talking about a strategy or pattern... Not giving you free answers either...
Well, no one asked for your strategy, I wish you luck and that you make a lot of money, but probabilities dictate that you were just lucky if you got any earnings and that at some point things are going to return to the mean which means your luck is going to run out.
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November 26, 2017, 09:04:56 PM
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Actually there is no long-term stragedy, cause every stragedy has their own errors inside and you will be busted.
The game is purely based on luck and there is nothing else to it, even when you believe that you have researched to the extent that you believe you may win one player get red carded and that will totally change the game. The best strategy i can give is that don't bet a lot of money.
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November 26, 2017, 11:03:08 PM
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In my opinion I think all phase of gambling were needs strategies especially when you play card games, especially when you play blackjack or poker, also when you bet in sports betting you just need to calculate the ability of each player to assure that you will win in your bet. But if you play slot machines or dice roll I think all you need is need to wear your luck. Because this kind of games are not need strategies instead when you play this games all you need to do is to pray for your win.
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November 27, 2017, 10:45:46 AM
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Ok, I was talking about a ''strategy'' here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2420633.msg24806542#msg24806542

Basically it gives you more chances to win than you would have when betting only once. I personally think that you can have a strategy but mainly to save time. Martingale for instance is extremely time consuming especially if you start with something like 1 satoshi base bet, even if you have a bot betting for you. You spend hours and hours even days or weeks for a very small payout with the same risk as other strategies.

The ''strategy'' I linked is basically the fastest and best odds that you can have so I suggest you to use that one instead of wasting your time with other pointless strategies that wont increase your chances anyways.
I don't agree with your math.
Chance to win first bet is 33% and chance to win second bet is 24.75%, i am not sure how you did that calculation and came to 49.5% but it is wrong, if you lose first bet chance to win second bet (with increasing multiplier from 3X to 4X) is still 24.75%.
I am not very much sure about the correctness of these calculations but I know one thing with certainty that even if it was right still it doesn't seem good to me, I mean the chances of winning are even below 50%. Also, I believe we cannot win gambling games by doing some calculations or tricks.  Actually there's no way of increasing the winning chance so it is better to enjoy the game and place small bets.

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November 27, 2017, 01:46:28 PM
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Basically you only have about a 47% to 48% chance of winning at dice games because the house takes a 2% to 3% of every roll. What this means is that the house gets about 2% to 3% of the money from all bets. They will always make this money in addition to the other 47% to 48% of all losses. Overall there is no way to win mathematically unless you just get lucky or quit while you are ahead.
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