[SOLD] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)

[nubbins]

No one's going to help this fell crypto lover out by quoting their pics to post them properly?

Yeah, no one except literally the first reply in the thread.

and now that you all can see them, these coins are being priced WAY under value on this thread.

lol

Anything under 2BTC is worthy of being laughed at. Any thing over 2BTC PER COIN is worth of consideration, but only if proper speculation is applied to the offer.

LOL

TL;DR: don't insult us.

 

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[captnlolers]

Is 1.7 too much still? I have seen ungraded go for 1.6 recently... so I still cannot believe no one is willing to come to the table and make a deal. 

[Zyro]

I think 2+  is unreasonable at today's market prices.   
1.7 sounds more reasonable but finding the right buyer is going to be the biggest problem.

[captnlolers]

I think 2+  is unreasonable at today's market prices.   
1.7 sounds more reasonable but finding the right buyer is going to be the biggest problem.

Well I have the range 1.7 to 2, and I also opened up to payment with BTC using an escrow. Had an offer for 1.2 after that. I just don't understand it...

[cptdome1]

I think 2+  is unreasonable at today's market prices.   
1.7 sounds more reasonable but finding the right buyer is going to be the biggest problem.

Well I have the range 1.7 to 2, and I also opened up to payment with BTC using an escrow. Had an offer for 1.2 after that. I just don't understand it...

I'd offer you around 1.3BTC for it.  Yes less than what I would have paid in BTC terms a month ago but should still be on par with the fiat premium I am willing to pay

[captnlolers]

I think 2+  is unreasonable at today's market prices.   
1.7 sounds more reasonable but finding the right buyer is going to be the biggest problem.

Well I have the range 1.7 to 2, and I also opened up to payment with BTC using an escrow. Had an offer for 1.2 after that. I just don't understand it...

I'd offer you around 1.3BTC for it.  Yes less than what I would have paid in BTC terms a month ago but should still be on par with the fiat premium I am willing to pay

Can you explain how an ungraded coin goes for 1.6 this week, and your offer is sitting at 1.3? Is the coin worth less after its been graded?

[cptdome1]

I can only explain what I'm willing to spend for a premium for this coin.  In November that was price was 1.56BTC, after the daily all time highs its now 1.3BTC

[ezeminer]

Can you explain how an ungraded coin goes for 1.6 this week, and your offer is sitting at 1.3? Is the coin worth less after its been graded?

It's a buyers market now. With so many people trying to offload casascius coins it is driving the price down.

In my opinion I would HODL till these coins hit auction houses.

[HabBear]

This kind of buyer psychology and behaviour - where as the conversion rate of fiat to bitcoin increases the premium buyers are willing to pay goes down - proves that the market still doesn't think of bitcoin as a currency that can stand alone.

If buyers of these coins are always thinking about the coin values in terms of fiat than the market is driven by speculation only and not for the love, armiration, or appreciation of bitcoin or cassascius' role in starting this physical crypto scene.

I don't understand it. It's sad. I'll probably never sell my coins until the buying behaviour comes back around to align with the appreciation "they" all had for these coins during the earliest days.

Question I have on all these coins, all Casascius, Lealana or whoever made the coins is why does the price of BTC affect the coin price. If you were to buy this Gilt coin a few months ago you were looking at 2.2 BTC all day long but now some claim its not worth that being BTC is up. I myself bought a ton of coins as a investment but basically what your saying is I should have just left it in BTC that as BTC rises coin values drop. Why isnt a coin that sold for 2.2 BTC months ago worth 2.2 BTC today? If you were to take a Gilt coin months ago at 2.2btc it had no BCC, BTG loaded either.

Thanks

If we were still paying the same premiums we were paying 3 years ago this Gilt would be 3.5-4BTC. which would be approximately 27k for the premium and 11k for the loaded value (including forks)

Thanks,
didnt know they were that high Ouch!! With that being said coins are not a great investment then.

Granted the price of bitcoin was also $300 each back then so although the BTC value drops the fiat value has been going up.

I'd offer you around 1.3BTC for it.

Didn't Mike sell all these coins for 1.2BTC?! That's the real "face value" of these coins.

Bitcoin adoption and value soars globally and buyers of Cassascius coins try to squeeze the market!

Fucking ironic!

We should stop offering these coins for sale until the buyers start recognizing their real value!

[Zyro]

We should stop offering these coins for sale until the buyers start recognizing their real value!

A coin is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.  You can't blame the market for what it is.  

[dazedfool]

I think 2+  is unreasonable at today's market prices.   
1.7 sounds more reasonable but finding the right buyer is going to be the biggest problem.

Well I have the range 1.7 to 2, and I also opened up to payment with BTC using an escrow. Had an offer for 1.2 after that. I just don't understand it...

I'd offer you around 1.3BTC for it.  Yes less than what I would have paid in BTC terms a month ago but should still be on par with the fiat premium I am willing to pay

Can you explain how an ungraded coin goes for 1.6 this week, and your offer is sitting at 1.3? Is the coin worth less after its been graded?

who sold one for 1.6?

[Lesbian Cow]

No one's going to help this fell crypto lover out by quoting their pics to post them properly?

and now that you all can see them, these coins are being priced WAY under value on this thread.

Anything under 2BTC is worthy of being laughed at. Any thing over 2BTC PER COIN is worth of consideration, but only if proper speculation is applied to the offer.

TL;DR: don't insult us.

Hi HabBear.

Glad I saw your post as we should be able to do a real simple deal, should be quick given anything below 2 btc is a great price for a buyer given your above statement.  I will sell you one of my Cas silvers, also graded Ms 68, for 1.95 btc including worldwide shipping.  Escrow with miner Jones is fine and I can have it shpped via overnight on Monday.   Please make payment to minerjones and I will get you a tracking number tomorrow.  

Cheers!

Is 1.7 too much still? I have seen ungraded go for 1.6 recently... so I still cannot believe no one is willing to come to the table and make a deal.  

If you want to move the coin 1.6 is probably right around where it would sell in my opinion.  

[dazedfool]

No one's going to help this fell crypto lover out by quoting their pics to post them properly?

and now that you all can see them, these coins are being priced WAY under value on this thread.

Anything under 2BTC is worthy of being laughed at. Any thing over 2BTC PER COIN is worth of consideration, but only if proper speculation is applied to the offer.

TL;DR: don't insult us.

Hi HabBear.

Glad I saw your post as we should be able to do a real simple deal, should be quick given anything below 2 btc is a great price for a buyer given your above statement.  I will sell you one of my Cas silvers, also graded Ms 68, for 1.95 btc including worldwide shipping.  Escrow with miner Jones is fine and I can have it shpped via overnight on Monday.   Please make payment to minerjones and I will get you a tracking number tomorrow.  

Cheers!

OH SHIT HABBOTROLLIO, WHAT AN OFFER!

YOU WOULD BE A FOOL, NAY A DAZED FOOL, TO NOT JUMP ON THAT DEAL

PUT SOME MONEY WHERE YOUR BIG MOUTH IS

[HabBear]

PUT SOME MONEY WHERE YOUR BIG MOUTH IS

My money is already in Cassascius coins, i'm not going to support the weakening buyer's premium. That's consistent with everything I've said here.

To someone else who said  the maket is what buyers and sellers make it - i totally agree, and that gets to the root of my point; this market is driven more by appreciation for USD than for Bitcoin and that seller's can change that if they want to.

[captnlolers]

Is 1.7 too much still? I have seen ungraded go for 1.6 recently... so I still cannot believe no one is willing to come to the table and make a deal.  

If you want to move the coin 1.6 is probably right around where it would sell in my opinion.  

I am definitely motivated at this time. I would probably take 1.65 today, even though again an ungraded went for 1.6 late this past week, its a tough pill to swallow.

[nubbins]

I don't understand it. It's sad.

If you actually do not understand why nobody is interested in paying a 1 BTC premium for a privately-minted novelty silver round, then yes, that is sad.

Leaving fiat out of the equation, one bitcoin is worth materially more today than it was worth a year ago. One bitcoin can buy you a car. Or a down payment on a house. Or a pound of gold.

Is a novelty silver round from 2013 worth so much that the collector's premium on it is equal to a POUND OF GOLD?

Is it really?

[Lesbian Cow]

I don't understand it. It's sad.

If you actually do not understand why nobody is interested in paying a 1 BTC premium for a privately-minted novelty silver round, then yes, that is sad.

Leaving fiat out of the equation, one bitcoin is worth materially more today than it was worth a year ago. One bitcoin can buy you a car. Or a down payment on a house. Or a pound of gold.

Is a novelty silver round from 2013 worth so much that the collector's premium on it is equal to a POUND OF GOLD?

Is it really?

Well said Nubbins!

HabBear, do you have any photos of your Casascius collection as I would love to see if it exists.

[Bitcoinwaist]

Just an observation but i think the people that wanted and could afford cas coins have them and arent going to buy unless its their price. Its a buyers market now imo. Until word gets out that these coins actually exist and more markets to sell open ,other than here or ebay, it may be tough moving them. We need someone on cnbc to show a cas coin during an interview.
Just my 2c

[cptdome1]

how motivated are you?  what about doing an auction?

[Zyro]

how motivated are you?  what about doing an auction?

I'm sure a action would start at a price that no one would want to bid at, or a reserve price around where they are trying to sell it now.  This seller clearly has a price in their mind and will not sell under that.   Which is their right.