Progress? We're waiting...

[sdp]

Buyers remorse is worse with bitcoin.  I am a guy looks at what he spent to buy a tablet with 0.2 BTC and keep thinking I have a mental disability looking back but then I think of Adam Levine's camera for 30, and Theymos paying 11k for web software and another guy bought two pizzas for the same amount.  Money is for spending. It's only a game.  I learned a lot by using the tools and services I bought with BTC, and I am glad I had those.  It must be disheartening after three years for Theymos but good software can take time.

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[Piggy]

I didn't follow the latest development with the new forum, but as i last heard, it was stopped due to some problem between theymos and the developers. I see there is again some activity in github now https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/pull/458, is the development continuing ?

[Initscri]

The upgrade is an very easy process, it will take probably under 1 hour with the actual database size.

Conventionally, yes. To re-program / re-implement features, no.

You're thinking about a standard SMF forum w/o modifications. It's really easy to speak when you don't know the backend of the forum or the context of how it's run.

Your 1hr quote would be the automated/recommend portion of the migration to 2, which I doubt BitcoinTalk could even use w/ all customizations without totally breaking the forum OR requiring further work to fix everything.

[cryptied]

The choice may have been different if we were to start the project now. But I believe that interfaces are what matters. Also, we kind of didn't have a choice on the frontend. If you would like to see, our migration layer and database schema design is written in Elixir and Ecto. As for JS, there are definitely shortcomings but performance-wise, Node is good enough on the server side for the time being.

Do you have any specific questions?

Just out of curiosity, what would probably be your first choice if you were to start the project now? Would it be Go, Java, something else, ...?

[cabalism13]

Putting this up on top, interested to hear some news our new forum, as we are almost halfway to end this year now, maybe we can get something out from theymos? 😅 still cool, just curious...

PROGRESS?...

[Stalker22]

Putting this up on top, interested to hear some news our new forum, as we are almost halfway to end this year now, maybe we can get something out from theymos? 😅 still cool, just curious...

PROGRESS?...

I second that. In just a few months, we will be wrapping up 2021. What is taking so long?
Or have we given up on the whole idea?

[cabalism13]

Putting this up on top, interested to hear some news our new forum, as we are almost halfway to end this year now, maybe we can get something out from theymos? 😅 still cool, just curious...

PROGRESS?...

I second that. In just a few months, we will be wrapping up 2021. What is taking so long?
Or have we given up on the whole idea?

I dont think they have given up yet,as they already spent thousnds of dolars here afaik. So it woulnd't be that easy to forfeit this project... let's see maybe someone here in the forum has some clear details.

[Stalker22]

... let's see maybe someone here in the forum has some clear details.

My understanding is that there is only one person who has insight into this. As far as I can see, the last post on this topic was from two years ago. I wonder if anything has changed since then.

[libertariandude]

The last merged PR was in May...

I guess a roadmap would be useful. I'm sure there are plenty of people here who can code AngularJS (myself included), so can't we just code it collaboratively?

With some guidance of what needs to be done from whoever is in charge of this project maybe we could speed up the development.

[owlcatz]

This has literally been the longest running fucking Bitcoin-related joke of shit-ware scam I've ever seen with no end ever... Trillions of forum dollars given to the admin's friends who frittered and wasted it all building a whole new framework instead of just improving the problems of the forum on another platform.

What a fuckin' scam, Lol.... Someone got rich off this deal, that's for sure...

[NotATether]

The last merged PR was in May...

I guess a roadmap would be useful. I'm sure there are plenty of people here who can code AngularJS (myself included), so can't we just code it collaboratively?

With some guidance of what needs to be done from whoever is in charge of this project maybe we could speed up the development.

Since it's on Github you can always fork it and I guess if someone ever manages to finish this piece of software then admin can change the DNS names like Reddit did and make new.bitcointalk.org point to the new forum software (and bitcointalk.org continues to point to the SMF version).

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Bitcoin went all the way from a few hundred dollars to $65k recently, and yet the future of the "new forum software" isn't yet known?

I don't know why I have this bad feeling, but we might never see the project come to fruition?
Why is it dragging for so long like this?

Funds? Lack of devs to hire for the project?

[SFR10]

I'm sure there are plenty of people here who can code AngularJS (myself included), so can't we just code it collaboratively?

Try to get in touch with "Cryptios" or just use "Coinbistro" to test and report bugs: Coinbistro.com - Epochtalk testing grounds

Why is it dragging for so long like this?

Here you go ^{[I do know 2 years has passed since @theymos made that comment but I think, for the most part, they're still accurate]}:
^{- I've highlighted the main parts.}

• ~Snipped~
  The things blocking a transition from the current software to the new software are:
   - There hasn't been enough testing. I think that immediately after transition, a variety of small missed features, bugs, and performance issues would crop up. As a result, if the transition happened now (which is technically possible!), I'd expect the post-transition user experience to be poor for months while these things are fixed, which I don't want.
   - I am the only bitcointalk.org sysadmin and on-demand programmer, and I'm used to the current software. Furthermore, I need to frequently make changes to the current software, but each change I make might require alterations to Epochtalk, which is problematic.
   - The current PHP software, while ugly and sub-optimal in many ways, performs well, especially since I have extensively modified the backend to add features and improve performance. So I don't feel much urgency.
   - The data-transition procedure still has a few known minor bugs.
  ~Snipped~
  

[Mr. Jinx]

- The current PHP software, while ugly and sub-optimal in many ways, performs well, especially since I have extensively modified the backend to add features and improve performance. So I don't feel much urgency.

Hopefully with security in mind. It must be very tricky to run this ancient version of SMF on a security maintained PHP branche.

[realdantreccia]

- The current PHP software, while ugly and sub-optimal in many ways, performs well, especially since I have extensively modified the backend to add features and improve performance. So I don't feel much urgency.

Hopefully with security in mind. It must be very tricky to run this ancient version of SMF on a security maintained PHP branche.

I like the fact the community is teaming with users in each forum but I'm still using the same software I used to talk about baseball trading card games before I was in high school at the turn of the millennia. I also don't like alts are 2011 for the most part. I'm a necropurist.

[mikemiller023]

Now, it is December, 2021 and I wanna inform you that after passing 4 years Still now your post is live. That's great. I'm surprised about the forum for its real use and those who are still curious to know and find out a solution about the problem

Really? Is beta.bitcointalk.org legit the latest version? It's been 3 years and this is it? What is it being coded in... assembly?

If I remember correctly, the budget for the site was in the tens of thousands of BTC. At today's value, it'd probably be a $50MM bid. I'm thinking the admins were swindled in the bid... I think it should go back open or at least make a more open competition for the new software.

Edit: Found the source. It's freaking Javascript... that's why. Who would want that ungodly mess to manage? ew.

Edit2: https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk for those that can't google.

happened 4 years ago also themselves who are discussing the related issues and sharing updates about it. I found someone who is joking in some matters. Really, I just believed that no forum is too interesting then Bitcointalk.

[Iron Fist]

Although I've been reading about the new forum software since before I signed up (at the time I naively thought the update was just around the corner and it would be available soon, so I was postponing my registration), I now understand that the situation isn't quite as simple as it seems.

I have a few questions, but I don't know where to ask them. How much still needs to be done before switching to the new software? Is there a roadmap? Are there any things we, as a community, can do to help development?

[SFR10]

Is there a roadmap?

Epochtalk had a "roadmap" before, but at some point in 2020 ^{[or 2021]}, they removed that page ^{[you can still check some of its content from the following "archived version"]}.

Are there any things we, as a community, can do to help development?

Here you go:

• use "Coinbistro" to test and report bugs: Coinbistro.com - Epochtalk testing grounds
  

[Iron Fist]

Are there any things we, as a community, can do to help development?

Here you go:

• use "Coinbistro" to test and report bugs: Coinbistro.com - Epochtalk testing grounds
  

Thank you.
I see there hasn't been a lot of activity there lately. Furthermore, Cryptios, a user account created specifically for the purpose (if I understood correctly) has not been active since the original post. I wonder if that project has been abandoned completely.

Where can I find the reported Coinbistro bugs? There have been no replies to the original thread.

[robelneo]

Is there a roadmap?

Epochtalk had a "roadmap" before, but at some point in 2020 ^{[or 2021]}, they removed that page ^{[you can still check some of its content from the following "archived version"]}.

Are there any things we, as a community, can do to help development?

Here you go:

• use "Coinbistro" to test and report bugs: Coinbistro.com - Epochtalk testing grounds
  

I wonder why the roadmap was taken down it has all the functionality to create or make a forum great but to be honest I like SMF most of the forums I'm in are using SMF, although this is not the best forum software in the industry it's very comfortable posting on SMF based forum, I guess it comes to habit whatever you've used daily and makes you grow your knowledge and make money you've come to love it every bit and part of it, so I have no problem if the admin continues to use SMF for many years.