How do you guys feel about trust farming?

[VW50b2xk]

Because there's ones person thats so blatantly trust farming it's painful people are giving him trust.

[actmyname]

Please DON'T tell us who it is.How come every single one of these accusatory threads never point out the person/evidence BEFORE it is requested? Jesus.

[Aventhe]

Please DON'T tell us who it is.How come every single one of these accusatory threads never point out the person/evidence BEFORE it is requested? Jesus.

It looks like a spam thread made so accounts can be posted in. The title "How do you fee.." doesnt match up with what he is saying in OP.

Doesn't look like this is the case..

[VW50b2xk]

Please DON'T tell us who it is.How come every single one of these accusatory threads never point out the person/evidence BEFORE it is requested? Jesus.

Because who knows how everyone will respond? Bitcointalk members tend to have strong views that sometimes go against common sense.

But because you asked so nicely, I sent you a pm

EDIT - @Aventhe, my problem isn't with you, even though you have trust from the same people as the guy I'm accusing. Useless loans taken to get trust, or buying emails that you don't even use.

[Lauda]

... even though you have trust from the same people as the guy I'm accusing. Useless loans taken to get trust, or buying emails that you don't even use.

Who exactly are you accusing? TheButterZone? Taras?

[Aventhe]

... even though you have trust from the same people as the guy I'm accusing. Useless loans taken to get trust, or buying emails that you don't even use.

Who exactly are you accusing? TheButterZone? Taras?

I think he is accusing the people/ person who got the trust rating..

[VW50b2xk]

I want to know opinions. The forum doesn't have rules. What is enforced are the opinions of those sitting on DT.

Trust farming - good or bad?

C'mon, is it that hard to answer?

[Lauda]

Trust farming - good or bad?

C'mon, is it that hard to answer?

Use your brain. Trust farming, more precisely, proven trust farming lands you with negative trust ratings from people (and a kick from DT if you're in it). Therefore, it is obviously bad and treated as such.
Now back to the actual point of this thread: Who is doing this and do you have proof that will support your claim?

[Aventhe]

I want to know opinions. The forum doesn't have rules. What is enforced are the opinions of those sitting on DT.

Trust farming - good or bad?

C'mon, is it that hard to answer?

Well, of course it's bad. Unless it's deserved like for Blazed, monbux etc. I know for sure that Lauda is very good at trust farming, though not in the colour black.

It all depends on the context. Forcing people to leave feedback is bad, it should always be voluntary.

[hilariousandco]

Op, please post your issue rather than being vague about it as it helps no one nor can anyone chime in on the issue (or non-issue).

... even though you have trust from the same people as the guy I'm accusing. Useless loans taken to get trust, or buying emails that you don't even use.

Who exactly are you accusing? TheButterZone? Taras?

I think some people blatantly have purchased thebutterzone's email forwarding service just for the cheap and easy trusted feedback to be honest though, and most of the loans anyone has ever taken out here are probably done for the same reason.

[TheUltraElite]

I want to know opinions. The forum doesn't have rules. What is enforced are the opinions of those sitting on DT.

The DT members enforce some rules on the members for specific uses. They include shitposting for signature spamming, account farming and scamming - possible criminal attempts. The forum has some rules as well. However since loopholes were often found in those rules, it was the DT members who have tried their level best to fix them by providing some enforced rules. You may or may not follow those rules. That wont stop your access to the forum.

Trust farming - good or bad?

Where exactly are you getting the idea that people are farming trust? Trust is not farmed but earned.

If A gives B trust a green rating - that means that B is trusted by A - does not imply that a third party (say C) can trust B. C may have their own opinions about B and that does not make any difference.

C'mon, is it that hard to answer?

What I feel is that you are just another alt account of some butthurt user of the forum who got red trusted by the DT2 members and is now trolling the forum with such threads with no specific use of their own.

[VW50b2xk]

I want to know opinions. The forum doesn't have rules. What is enforced are the opinions of those sitting on DT.

The DT members enforce some rules on the members for specific uses. They include shitposting for signature spamming, account farming and scamming - possible criminal attempts. The forum has some rules as well. However since loopholes were often found in those rules, it was the DT members who have tried their level best to fix them by providing some enforced rules. You may or may not follow those rules. That wont stop your access to the forum.

Trust farming - good or bad?

Where exactly are you getting the idea that people are farming trust? Trust is not farmed but earned.

If A gives B trust a green rating - that means that B is trusted by A - does not imply that a third party (say C) can trust B. C may have their own opinions about B and that does not make any difference.

C'mon, is it that hard to answer?

What I feel is that you are just another alt account of some butthurt user of the forum who got red trusted by the DT2 members and is now trolling the forum with such threads with no specific use of their own.

If you're assuming I've been negged, not a chance.

I wasn't originally acussing this guy, but someone mentioned him to me in a pm a couple of hours ago, and after doing some research he's even more fishy than the guy I was originally looking at.

User Atriz

1. The Bitcoin he loaned from Taras (Supposedly Bitcoin to pay off a signature campaign - which shouldnt be done if he is escrowing the funds... is he spending the funds?)

It looks like he put the 0.1 onto an exchange/gambling site/mixer, NOT into paying multiple people for a signature campaign, like he said.

2. He purchased the email forwarding probably for the trust (strangely, Aventhe, the one posting in my thread, also did too, barely a few days after)

3. He purchased a "kialara" coin from user Minerjones and in a couple of days, around the time needed to ship a parcel overseas, he started a raffle in which he seems pretty desperate to get rid of it. He has bought many other coins too, and recently bought more.

4. He's just buying ad slots, which I can't really use as evidence, but all four of these things within less than a month is so suspicious.

The more I look into it, the more I find. Im not sure if this is enough information/proof, but just wanted to shed some light.

[aTriz]

I want to know opinions. The forum doesn't have rules. What is enforced are the opinions of those sitting on DT.

The DT members enforce some rules on the members for specific uses. They include shitposting for signature spamming, account farming and scamming - possible criminal attempts. The forum has some rules as well. However since loopholes were often found in those rules, it was the DT members who have tried their level best to fix them by providing some enforced rules. You may or may not follow those rules. That wont stop your access to the forum.

Trust farming - good or bad?

Where exactly are you getting the idea that people are farming trust? Trust is not farmed but earned.

If A gives B trust a green rating - that means that B is trusted by A - does not imply that a third party (say C) can trust B. C may have their own opinions about B and that does not make any difference.

C'mon, is it that hard to answer?

What I feel is that you are just another alt account of some butthurt user of the forum who got red trusted by the DT2 members and is now trolling the forum with such threads with no specific use of their own.

If you're assuming I've been negged, not a chance.

I wasn't originally acussing this guy, but someone mentioned him to me in a pm a couple of hours ago, and after doing some research he's even more fishy than the guy I was originally looking at.

User Atriz

1. The Bitcoin he loaned from Taras (Supposedly Bitcoin to pay off a signature campaign - which shouldnt be done if he is escrowing the funds... is he spending the funds?)

It looks like he put the 0.1 onto an exchange/gambling site/mixer, NOT into paying multiple people for a signature campaign, like he said.

2. He purchased the email forwarding probably for the trust (strangely, Aventhe, the one posting in my thread, also did too, barely a few days after)

3. He purchased a "kialara" coin from user Minerjones and in a couple of days, around the time needed to ship a parcel overseas, he started a raffle in which he seems pretty desperate to get rid of it. He has bought many other coins too, and recently bought more.

4. He's just buying ad slots, which I can't really use as evidence, but all four of these things within less than a month is so suspicious.

The more I look into it, the more I find. Im not sure if this is enough information/proof, but just wanted to shed some light.

1. I didn't say it was for a Sig campaign, I didn't even give a reason.
 
2. Using it for my alt, atriz_alt, I only have one email on my phone's, so I can transfer all PM's from that account to the other, especially when I'm going overseas for a bit and don't feel safe logging in on atriz.

3. I sniped that coin since it was a good deal and many people would agree. Selling it for a moon bar, and not feel like spending that much on collectables especially at this price.

4. Ad slots for an ico? Problem?

[VW50b2xk]

Snip

Here he comes.

1. Thread locked, so I can't quote. See for yourself.

Oh, is this loan for a signature campaign? I didn't realize who I was talking to. I've decided to fund this on your terms if you accept. Can you sign a message with 1BazXuAsPeRMjGwPTf5k6yRfUCeY5iMj9o first?

Sure. Im getting funds after post counting.

You confirmed it.

2. You can easily do that with Gmail, Zoho, or even at DNS level if you purchase a domain. Why did you have to pay multiple tens of dollars (probably, with Bitcoin's price where it is now) for it?

3. Looking at your history on the collectibles board, you've spent almost more on entering and losing raffles than you have actually buying any coins.

4. No problem here, but it looks hella dodgy under the grand scheme of things.

I don't have an agenda against you btw. But if there's something here that makes this 'proof' of trust farming, then I can take a special person of interest down.  

[aTriz]

I want to know opinions. The forum doesn't have rules. What is enforced are the opinions of those sitting on DT.

The DT members enforce some rules on the members for specific uses. They include shitposting for signature spamming, account farming and scamming - possible criminal attempts. The forum has some rules as well. However since loopholes were often found in those rules, it was the DT members who have tried their level best to fix them by providing some enforced rules. You may or may not follow those rules. That wont stop your access to the forum.

Trust farming - good or bad?

Where exactly are you getting the idea that people are farming trust? Trust is not farmed but earned.

If A gives B trust a green rating - that means that B is trusted by A - does not imply that a third party (say C) can trust B. C may have their own opinions about B and that does not make any difference.

C'mon, is it that hard to answer?

What I feel is that you are just another alt account of some butthurt user of the forum who got red trusted by the DT2 members and is now trolling the forum with such threads with no specific use of their own.

If you're assuming I've been negged, not a chance.

I wasn't originally acussing this guy, but someone mentioned him to me in a pm a couple of hours ago, and after doing some research he's even more fishy than the guy I was originally looking at.

User Atriz

1. The Bitcoin he loaned from Taras (Supposedly Bitcoin to pay off a signature campaign - which shouldnt be done if he is escrowing the funds... is he spending the funds?)

It looks like he put the 0.1 onto an exchange/gambling site/mixer, NOT into paying multiple people for a signature campaign, like he said.

2. He purchased the email forwarding probably for the trust (strangely, Aventhe, the one posting in my thread, also did too, barely a few days after)

3. He purchased a "kialara" coin from user Minerjones and in a couple of days, around the time needed to ship a parcel overseas, he started a raffle in which he seems pretty desperate to get rid of it. He has bought many other coins too, and recently bought more.

4. He's just buying ad slots, which I can't really use as evidence, but all four of these things within less than a month is so suspicious.

The more I look into it, the more I find. Im not sure if this is enough information/proof, but just wanted to shed some light.

1. I didn't say it was for a Sig campaign, I didn't even give a reason.
 
2. Using it for my alt, atriz_alt, I only have one email on my phone's, so I can transfer all PM's from that account to the other, especially when I'm going overseas for a bit and don't feel safe logging in on atriz.

3. I sniped that coin since it was a good deal and many people would agree. Selling it for a moon bar, and not feel like spending that much on collectables especially at this price.

4. Ad slots for an ico? Problem?

Here he comes.

1. Thread locked, so I can't quote. See for yourself.

Oh, is this loan for a signature campaign? I didn't realize who I was talking to. I've decided to fund this on your terms if you accept. Can you sign a message with 1BazXuAsPeRMjGwPTf5k6yRfUCeY5iMj9o first?

Sure. Im getting funds after post counting.

You confirmed it.

2. You can easily do that with Gmail, Zoho, or even at DNS level if you purchase a domain. Why did you have to pay multiple tens of dollars (probably, with Bitcoin's price where it is now) for it?

3. Looking at your history on the collectibles board, you've spent almost more on entering and losing raffles than you have actually buying any coins.

4. No problem here, but it looks hella dodgy under the grand scheme of things.

I don't have an agenda against you btw. But if there's something here that makes this 'proof' of trust farming, then I can take a special person of interest down. 

1. I think this ones a bit confusing, I meant I'm getting my payment after doing post counting, not that I was low on escrow funds.

2. What do you mean? I only have one business email and one private e-mail which I would rather not use. This email forwarding thing was the safer option and it was like 8 dollars a year.

3. Exactly, that's why I'm cutting my losses and buying a moon bar instead of entering raffles.

4. Talk to the ico im working with for this one, it's not dodgy. They wanted adspace, I got them adspace.

[VW50b2xk]

I want to know opinions. The forum doesn't have rules. What is enforced are the opinions of those sitting on DT.

The DT members enforce some rules on the members for specific uses. They include shitposting for signature spamming, account farming and scamming - possible criminal attempts. The forum has some rules as well. However since loopholes were often found in those rules, it was the DT members who have tried their level best to fix them by providing some enforced rules. You may or may not follow those rules. That wont stop your access to the forum.

Trust farming - good or bad?

Where exactly are you getting the idea that people are farming trust? Trust is not farmed but earned.

If A gives B trust a green rating - that means that B is trusted by A - does not imply that a third party (say C) can trust B. C may have their own opinions about B and that does not make any difference.

C'mon, is it that hard to answer?

What I feel is that you are just another alt account of some butthurt user of the forum who got red trusted by the DT2 members and is now trolling the forum with such threads with no specific use of their own.

If you're assuming I've been negged, not a chance.

I wasn't originally acussing this guy, but someone mentioned him to me in a pm a couple of hours ago, and after doing some research he's even more fishy than the guy I was originally looking at.

User Atriz

1. The Bitcoin he loaned from Taras (Supposedly Bitcoin to pay off a signature campaign - which shouldnt be done if he is escrowing the funds... is he spending the funds?)

It looks like he put the 0.1 onto an exchange/gambling site/mixer, NOT into paying multiple people for a signature campaign, like he said.

2. He purchased the email forwarding probably for the trust (strangely, Aventhe, the one posting in my thread, also did too, barely a few days after)

3. He purchased a "kialara" coin from user Minerjones and in a couple of days, around the time needed to ship a parcel overseas, he started a raffle in which he seems pretty desperate to get rid of it. He has bought many other coins too, and recently bought more.

4. He's just buying ad slots, which I can't really use as evidence, but all four of these things within less than a month is so suspicious.

The more I look into it, the more I find. Im not sure if this is enough information/proof, but just wanted to shed some light.

1. I didn't say it was for a Sig campaign, I didn't even give a reason.
 
2. Using it for my alt, atriz_alt, I only have one email on my phone's, so I can transfer all PM's from that account to the other, especially when I'm going overseas for a bit and don't feel safe logging in on atriz.

3. I sniped that coin since it was a good deal and many people would agree. Selling it for a moon bar, and not feel like spending that much on collectables especially at this price.

4. Ad slots for an ico? Problem?

Here he comes.

1. Thread locked, so I can't quote. See for yourself.

Oh, is this loan for a signature campaign? I didn't realize who I was talking to. I've decided to fund this on your terms if you accept. Can you sign a message with 1BazXuAsPeRMjGwPTf5k6yRfUCeY5iMj9o first?

Sure. Im getting funds after post counting.

You confirmed it.

2. You can easily do that with Gmail, Zoho, or even at DNS level if you purchase a domain. Why did you have to pay multiple tens of dollars (probably, with Bitcoin's price where it is now) for it?

3. Looking at your history on the collectibles board, you've spent almost more on entering and losing raffles than you have actually buying any coins.

4. No problem here, but it looks hella dodgy under the grand scheme of things.

I don't have an agenda against you btw. But if there's something here that makes this 'proof' of trust farming, then I can take a special person of interest down. 

1. I think this ones a bit confusing, I meant I'm getting my payment after doing post counting, not that I was low on escrow funds.

2. What do you mean? I only have one business email and one private e-mail which I would rather not use. This email forwarding thing was the safer option and it was like 8 dollars a year.

3. Exactly, that's why I'm cutting my losses and buying a moon bar instead of entering raffles.

4. Talk to the ico im working with for this one, it's not dodgy. They wanted adspace, I got them adspace.

1. Sure. I can't prove this is a lie, but it seems like an excuse to me.
2. Easier and cheaper still - register with your original email.
3. Sounds like another lame excuse
4. I'm saying that in addition to everything else, it seems strange.

[aTriz]

I want to know opinions. The forum doesn't have rules. What is enforced are the opinions of those sitting on DT.

The DT members enforce some rules on the members for specific uses. They include shitposting for signature spamming, account farming and scamming - possible criminal attempts. The forum has some rules as well. However since loopholes were often found in those rules, it was the DT members who have tried their level best to fix them by providing some enforced rules. You may or may not follow those rules. That wont stop your access to the forum.

Trust farming - good or bad?

Where exactly are you getting the idea that people are farming trust? Trust is not farmed but earned.

If A gives B trust a green rating - that means that B is trusted by A - does not imply that a third party (say C) can trust B. C may have their own opinions about B and that does not make any difference.

C'mon, is it that hard to answer?

What I feel is that you are just another alt account of some butthurt user of the forum who got red trusted by the DT2 members and is now trolling the forum with such threads with no specific use of their own.

If you're assuming I've been negged, not a chance.

I wasn't originally acussing this guy, but someone mentioned him to me in a pm a couple of hours ago, and after doing some research he's even more fishy than the guy I was originally looking at.

User Atriz

1. The Bitcoin he loaned from Taras (Supposedly Bitcoin to pay off a signature campaign - which shouldnt be done if he is escrowing the funds... is he spending the funds?)

It looks like he put the 0.1 onto an exchange/gambling site/mixer, NOT into paying multiple people for a signature campaign, like he said.

2. He purchased the email forwarding probably for the trust (strangely, Aventhe, the one posting in my thread, also did too, barely a few days after)

3. He purchased a "kialara" coin from user Minerjones and in a couple of days, around the time needed to ship a parcel overseas, he started a raffle in which he seems pretty desperate to get rid of it. He has bought many other coins too, and recently bought more.

4. He's just buying ad slots, which I can't really use as evidence, but all four of these things within less than a month is so suspicious.

The more I look into it, the more I find. Im not sure if this is enough information/proof, but just wanted to shed some light.

1. I didn't say it was for a Sig campaign, I didn't even give a reason.
 
2. Using it for my alt, atriz_alt, I only have one email on my phone's, so I can transfer all PM's from that account to the other, especially when I'm going overseas for a bit and don't feel safe logging in on atriz.

3. I sniped that coin since it was a good deal and many people would agree. Selling it for a moon bar, and not feel like spending that much on collectables especially at this price.

4. Ad slots for an ico? Problem?

Here he comes.

1. Thread locked, so I can't quote. See for yourself.

Oh, is this loan for a signature campaign? I didn't realize who I was talking to. I've decided to fund this on your terms if you accept. Can you sign a message with 1BazXuAsPeRMjGwPTf5k6yRfUCeY5iMj9o first?

Sure. Im getting funds after post counting.

You confirmed it.

2. You can easily do that with Gmail, Zoho, or even at DNS level if you purchase a domain. Why did you have to pay multiple tens of dollars (probably, with Bitcoin's price where it is now) for it?

3. Looking at your history on the collectibles board, you've spent almost more on entering and losing raffles than you have actually buying any coins.

4. No problem here, but it looks hella dodgy under the grand scheme of things.

I don't have an agenda against you btw. But if there's something here that makes this 'proof' of trust farming, then I can take a special person of interest down.  

1. I think this ones a bit confusing, I meant I'm getting my payment after doing post counting, not that I was low on escrow funds.

2. What do you mean? I only have one business email and one private e-mail which I would rather not use. This email forwarding thing was the safer option and it was like 8 dollars a year.

3. Exactly, that's why I'm cutting my losses and buying a moon bar instead of entering raffles.

4. Talk to the ico im working with for this one, it's not dodgy. They wanted adspace, I got them adspace.

1. Sure. I can't prove this is a lie, but it seems like an excuse to me.
2. Easier and cheaper still - register with your original email.
3. Sounds like another lame excuse
4. I'm saying that in addition to everything else, it seems strange.

1. I needed funds for a short amount of time for my own reason, this is just miscommunication between lender and me.

2. I'm using my business email for this account, one email per btt account.

3. Ok? Is not wanting to spend that much money on coins a problem?

[VW50b2xk]

1. I needed funds for a short amount of time for my own reason, this is just miscommunication between lender and me.

2. I'm using my business email for this account, one email per btt account.

3. Ok? Is not wanting to spend that much money on coins a problem?

I really can't prove that you're telling the truth. You can keep making excuses, I want to see what other people have to say.

2. You know how shitty SMF is. It even says that the email has to be active. Ive tried making accounts with the same email, and with invalid domains and they still work.

[aTriz]

1. I needed funds for a short amount of time for my own reason, this is just miscommunication between lender and me.

2. I'm using my business email for this account, one email per btt account.

3. Ok? Is not wanting to spend that much money on coins a problem?

I really can't prove that you're telling the truth. You can keep making excuses, I want to see what other people have to say.

2. You know how shitty SMF is. It even says that the email has to be active. Ive tried making accounts with the same email, and with invalid domains and they still work.

Sure okay.

I guess the trust for email is a bit too much. I'll shoot a pm and get that removed. The rest are all valid though.

[Crankautist]

Yes OP.

There was one moment in the past where people would get dt 2 for trading 5$.....

I really do think that to give green trust you need a serious reason (scam buster over a long duration) or a significant trade (trade value worth more then x $ ; i.e. for me it would beginn probably at 1000++ $ ).

Everything else is just making money. And DT people do exploit it even though it is not always very obvious - come on green trust for a email forwarding service? This is pretty bullshit...
Someone should put that guy off the DT please.