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November 12, 2017, 05:13:30 PM
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"There was a joke on social media, some guy lost his sex drive because he sold bitcoin after the China ban."

And with that, Bobby Lee, the CEO of China's oldest cryptocurrency exchange BTCC, launched into a scheduled speech extolling the virtues of bitcoin. Coming at the end of day one of the two-day technical conference Scaling Bitcoin last weekend, the talk amounted to a pep rally largely aimed at classical bitcoin bogeymen – the state, ICO scammers and those who don't get it.

But while he was speaking to just a few hundred of the foremost technical experts on the subject, it's ironically those in the wider world who Lee might have been better off addressing in his full remarks.

"Bitcoin's value does not come from the endorsement, acceptance or regulation from governments. Bitcoin's value comes from the inherent failures, limitations and inconveniences of the fiat money system,” Lee said in a tone befitting a grade school science teacher.

From there, he proceeded to defend the price of bitcoin – up more than 600 percent on the year – not as a bubble, but as evidence the protocol is proving its utility as the best way to hold value in the digital age.

Far from being tepid about the market, Lee argued those who have been on the fence should invest in bitcoin today, telling the crowd:
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"The last year, bitcoin has proven itself. What I tell my friends now, is as long as bitcoin is under $10,000, it's your chance to get in. For those of you [who] think it's too expensive, if you look in the rearview mirror, bitcoin has gone up 10x in the last year."
Lee went on to describe bitcoin as "very cheap," arguing that prospective buyers shouldn't look at the current price, but rather conceive of the potential the protocol could have when more of the world's assets migrate to the blockchain.

"Bitcoin is like buying gold at a 98 percent discount. If you think it's too late, if I had thought that back in 2012, I would not own bitcoin," Lee continued.

Jam-packed with no shortage of attempts to entertain, the speech went on to outline common "mistakes" made by more novice bitcoin traders, including four that Lee cited as the most detrimental. These included: "indecisiveness," "not buying enough," "selling after a small gain" and "selling during a panic crash."

"When you first learn about bitcoin you hesitate, the answer is to not be hesitant," he said.

On China

Still, the talk was not without its more serious moments.

For example, Lee opened up at length about the difficult situation for his startup, which has pivoted internationally after finding itself on the receiving end of the negative actions that can occur when bitcoin "challenges governments."

This September, the Chinese government moved abruptly to shut down ICOs (the sale of custom cryptocurrencies for fundraising), at the time, allegedly acting behind the scenes to take exchanges offline.

In response to the news, the market reacted strongly – dropping below $3,000 after hitting a new all-time high of $4,000 in the weeks before. Lee went on to note that "no one dares talk about" what happened next: the effective doubling of the price.

And while no formal ban was made, Lee affirmed his belief that China still "doesn't want to see bitcoin anymore," and that to his knowledge, no trading or price information can be displayed to consumers.

"No ICOs, no bitcoin, ethereum, litecoin, no more. That's the rule right now. I don't know where you buy bitcoin in China. It's like buying guns and pornography in China," he said.

That's not to say he doesn't see the market ever coming back, but he's not optimistic about the timeline.

State cryptos are coming

While there was focus on China, the remarks are perhaps best seen as part of a broader point: state actors will and are trying to infringe on bitcoin.

Lee made clear he believes the actions in China are simply the first sign of what the bitcoin community has long suspected will occur, that central banks will try to issue "digital crypto versions of their money system."

"Those will be state-controlled, state-supplied. Today bitcoin accounts are freely generated, those will be assigned to you and assigned identity. I don't think we'll be close to a decentralized cryptocurrency," he said.

Lee, however, was adamant in his belief that bitcoin – and by extension, its developers or businesses – shouldn't bend the knee in response.

He concluded:
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"I don't think bitcoin needs to cater to any culture or nationality of its users. Bitcoin is global, it cuts across all language and cultural barriers."
Source: https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-isnt-expensive-says-btcc-boss-bobby-lee/
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November 12, 2017, 06:18:17 PM
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Bitcoin isn't expensive at all if you look back after a year or two. Back in the days I bought a fixed amount of Bitcoin at least once a month, and kept doing so till the market reached the $500 level. At that point I was somewhat satisfied with how many coins I managed to accumulate, and for that reason stopped buying further. If I look back right now, it's obvious that it wasn't a smart move to stop accumulating, but there is no point in being upset about it. I am happy that I kept holding the majority of these coins till now, and combined it with some occasional trading.
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November 12, 2017, 06:55:45 PM
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Bitcoi  really isn't that expensive right now. People will call bitcoin expensive at all the price points. People thought bitcoin was expensive at $50, $100, $500, $1000 and now $6000. Bitcoin is still soo new and the potential is still soo big because the market cap, compared to major markets like gold, is soo extremely tiny. If bitcoin would receive 5% of the money that's into gold, 1 bitcoin would be valued at $25000.
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November 13, 2017, 10:00:56 AM
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There is a big dip in the price of Bitcoin right now due to the shift of many to BitcoinCash and because BCH could not be able to sustain the pump we can see a slow upward movement in Bitcoin (this is happening right now). I guess the right to buy Bitcoin is now when it is still cheaper compared days ago. Notwithstanding what many called as the attack, Bitcoin is holding the future growth of the cryptocurrency market. There had been many "crashes" of Bitcoin before and every time it occurred Bitcoin will come out stronger and better equipped for more growth and expansion. What will not kill Bitcoin will in fact make it more robust and ready to kick the whole world.
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November 13, 2017, 03:15:17 PM
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"There was a joke on social media, some guy lost his sex drive because he sold bitcoin after the China ban."

And with that, Bobby Lee, the CEO of China's oldest cryptocurrency exchange BTCC, launched into a scheduled speech extolling the virtues of bitcoin. Coming at the end of day one of the two-day technical conference Scaling Bitcoin last weekend, the talk amounted to a pep rally largely aimed at classical bitcoin bogeymen – the state, ICO scammers and those who don't get it.

But while he was speaking to just a few hundred of the foremost technical experts on the subject, it's ironically those in the wider world who Lee might have been better off addressing in his full remarks.

"Bitcoin's value does not come from the endorsement, acceptance or regulation from governments. Bitcoin's value comes from the inherent failures, limitations and inconveniences of the fiat money system,” Lee said in a tone befitting a grade school science teacher.

From there, he proceeded to defend the price of bitcoin – up more than 600 percent on the year – not as a bubble, but as evidence the protocol is proving its utility as the best way to hold value in the digital age.

Far from being tepid about the market, Lee argued those who have been on the fence should invest in bitcoin today, telling the crowd:
Quote
"The last year, bitcoin has proven itself. What I tell my friends now, is as long as bitcoin is under $10,000, it's your chance to get in. For those of you [who] think it's too expensive, if you look in the rearview mirror, bitcoin has gone up 10x in the last year."
Lee went on to describe bitcoin as "very cheap," arguing that prospective buyers shouldn't look at the current price, but rather conceive of the potential the protocol could have when more of the world's assets migrate to the blockchain.

"Bitcoin is like buying gold at a 98 percent discount. If you think it's too late, if I had thought that back in 2012, I would not own bitcoin," Lee continued.

Jam-packed with no shortage of attempts to entertain, the speech went on to outline common "mistakes" made by more novice bitcoin traders, including four that Lee cited as the most detrimental. These included: "indecisiveness," "not buying enough," "selling after a small gain" and "selling during a panic crash."

"When you first learn about bitcoin you hesitate, the answer is to not be hesitant," he said.

On China

Still, the talk was not without its more serious moments.

For example, Lee opened up at length about the difficult situation for his startup, which has pivoted internationally after finding itself on the receiving end of the negative actions that can occur when bitcoin "challenges governments."

This September, the Chinese government moved abruptly to shut down ICOs (the sale of custom cryptocurrencies for fundraising), at the time, allegedly acting behind the scenes to take exchanges offline.

In response to the news, the market reacted strongly – dropping below $3,000 after hitting a new all-time high of $4,000 in the weeks before. Lee went on to note that "no one dares talk about" what happened next: the effective doubling of the price.

And while no formal ban was made, Lee affirmed his belief that China still "doesn't want to see bitcoin anymore," and that to his knowledge, no trading or price information can be displayed to consumers.

"No ICOs, no bitcoin, ethereum, litecoin, no more. That's the rule right now. I don't know where you buy bitcoin in China. It's like buying guns and pornography in China," he said.

That's not to say he doesn't see the market ever coming back, but he's not optimistic about the timeline.

State cryptos are coming

While there was focus on China, the remarks are perhaps best seen as part of a broader point: state actors will and are trying to infringe on bitcoin.

Lee made clear he believes the actions in China are simply the first sign of what the bitcoin community has long suspected will occur, that central banks will try to issue "digital crypto versions of their money system."

"Those will be state-controlled, state-supplied. Today bitcoin accounts are freely generated, those will be assigned to you and assigned identity. I don't think we'll be close to a decentralized cryptocurrency," he said.

Lee, however, was adamant in his belief that bitcoin – and by extension, its developers or businesses – shouldn't bend the knee in response.

He concluded:
Quote
"I don't think bitcoin needs to cater to any culture or nationality of its users. Bitcoin is global, it cuts across all language and cultural barriers."
Source: https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-isnt-expensive-says-btcc-boss-bobby-lee/

I particularly agree with this statement to which I quote, "Bitcoin's value does not come from the endorsement, acceptance or regulation from governments. Bitcoin's value comes from the inherent failures, limitations and inconveniences of the fiat money system." This was my first motivation on why I started believing in Bitcoin. Why? It is because our regular banking system that are regulated by central banks fail to make our deposits multiply. In fact, banks are just like a safety storage for money that you opted not to be invested. You should not put all your money to banks when your primary goal is to earn money. Your money does not earn well in banks. It is the latter that earn through your cash deposits. 
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