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November 13, 2017, 12:06:16 AM
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so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto  so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??
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November 13, 2017, 02:47:55 AM
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so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto  so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

Have you ever bermaon di betcoin.ag? I think there is good enough to play poker with bitcoin. with hundreds of poker rooms that exist there can make it easier for us to choose which room we want to follow.

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

if referring to this question, it is not easy to make a gambling house for gambling, because they have to have a high security system and also the strength of the edge of the house so as not to lose
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November 13, 2017, 03:06:41 AM
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Have you ever bermaon di betcoin.ag? I think there is good enough to play poker with bitcoin. with hundreds of poker rooms that exist there can make it easier for us to choose which room we want to follow.

Betcoin isn't pure bitcoin gambling site , they have some cash games for bitcoin but the traffic is so low
people play on betcoin poker just to play WPN games , and these games are USD based not bitcoin

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referring to this question, it is not easy to make a gambling house for gambling, because they have to have a high security system and also the strength of the edge of the house so as not to lose

it's easy , just remember poker doesn't need a lot of funds to start a site cause in poker there is no variance for the site since they keep making money for every game that's being played at their site
unlike normal casino games where sometimes the casino lose , in poker the chances of a site losing is way smaller ( like running a lot of promotions and not raking back that amount )

so still can't figure out why the big bitcoin casinos haven't launched bitcoin poker

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November 13, 2017, 07:53:20 AM
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A few things why I think there are not much good online poker gambling sites,

1. Because it is just a niche kind of gambling game. There is not much players looking to play poker to gamble. Since in poker you need to be more than lucky in it, you also need skill. There is a smaller chance to win in poker than in just playing games like dice, if you do not have enough skill.
2. Ultimately related to number 1, is that gambling sites and operators do not profit so much from it since there are not much players and there is really no house edge.
3. Takes so much time to finish a tournament, or even just a single game. This is a factor to consider for both players and the operators. Since most players do not really like to wait too much and the operators do not like to have a long game since it would cost a lot more to run their poker site eating their profits.
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November 13, 2017, 06:55:34 PM
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A few things why I think there are not much good online poker gambling sites,

1. Because it is just a niche kind of gambling game. There is not much players looking to play poker to gamble. Since in poker you need to be more than lucky in it, you also need skill. There is a smaller chance to win in poker than in just playing games like dice, if you do not have enough skill.
2. Ultimately related to number 1, is that gambling sites and operators do not profit so much from it since there are not much players and there is really no house edge.
3. Takes so much time to finish a tournament, or even just a single game. This is a factor to consider for both players and the operators. Since most players do not really like to wait too much and the operators do not like to have a long game since it would cost a lot more to run their poker site eating their profits.


I don't thinks , maybe your points are right but IMO  I don't think so

1- yeah poker need skills and unskilled players have better chances winning at dice , but that doesn't mean that people don't want to play it
it's fun and games can last kinda long , so players are both gambling and having fun at the same time

2- operators profit way more when it comes to poker as I stated , there is house edge and that's the rake
gambling sites easily make 5-10% of the buy in for tournaments , and they make money from cash games too without taking bankroll risks
in gambling when a player wins 100K he is winning it directly from the casino bankroll , while in poker this profit comes directly from other players

there are many players who are willing to  join a good bitcoin poker site , as long as the owrners are trusted , the software is good
we haven't had a single site like that so far , so can't know for sure

3- the time shouldn't be a problem , you can choose the games that suit you like me personally  I don't play the tourneys in ACR cause they need a lot of time but other people like that  so that's not a factor

at worst case the site can create a game like spin & go in stars , where games last like 5 mins on avg and people can choose the games that suit them



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November 13, 2017, 10:01:16 PM
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so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto  so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??
Not enough players perhaps?
For example, I like to play poker on pokerstars because there are more than 100000 active players online at any time of day or night, it is so easy to play multiple rooms (sit'n'go or cash games) or if I don't like room it is easy to switch to another one, which is almost impossible in bitcoin poker sites.
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November 14, 2017, 05:37:00 AM
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Not enough players perhaps?
Right, not everyone is interested to play poker or there's not a lot of poker players here in the bitcoin community. On nitrogen's poker cheating can't be avoided, i've been hearing a lot of complaints from different users and their support doesn't seem to care much or don't have any solution to the problem(just my observation). 

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November 14, 2017, 06:23:33 AM
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Have you ever bermaon di betcoin.ag? I think there is good enough to play poker with bitcoin. with hundreds of poker rooms that exist there can make it easier for us to choose which room we want to follow.

Double check your google translate before posting it dude. Betcoin is not that good for bitcoin players imho, as I can see the number of active players is not that good compared to fiat poker site.

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

Actually it is not hard to launch, but it is hard to manage to get good traffic. I also wonder why no great bitcoin poker sites so far. Most of the existing bitcoin poker sites still has lower traffic than fiat poker sites.
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November 14, 2017, 06:55:54 AM
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Not enough players perhaps?
Yes, probably this is the case. Not many players are interested in playing poker. They are only interested in some dice game or the gambling things like the rollet.




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November 14, 2017, 07:00:51 AM
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I don't know what is a good poker site in your side, for me nitrogensports and americas card room are a good poker site. I can win on both site if i will choose to leave the table once i x3 my bankroll but no, i kept on playing until i bust everything. If those site are not good to you what is the example of a good poker site for you so that admin can imitate those site if they want to have a poker site. Pokerstars is also a good site but it doesn't have Bitcoin integrated into its system, they have lots of promo and competitions and big prizes in tourney.
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November 14, 2017, 08:01:12 AM
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bitcoin gambling sites are growing rapidly but there was none of them consider to build poker game sites and i think ye no active players makes gambling sites owners think twice to build poker sites because not all gamblers like to playing poker so this kind of game will be less popular than other games such as dice or sport betting

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November 14, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
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bitcoin gambling sites are growing rapidly but there was none of them consider to build poker game sites and i think ye no active players makes gambling sites owners think twice to build poker sites because not all gamblers like to playing poker so this kind of game will be less popular than other games such as dice or sport betting
yes it is lack of interest , i mean the real poker player are not here mostly as a bitcoin enthusiast . several times there is a lot of bitcoin poker sites trying to increase the popularity and still they are exploited with its freeroll , they don't come back again in the end.

that is what makes no bitcoin poker site successful recently and really unfortunate of course to see this kind situation.

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November 14, 2017, 08:32:21 AM
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bitcoin gambling sites are growing rapidly but there was none of them consider to build poker game sites and i think ye no active players makes gambling sites owners think twice to build poker sites because not all gamblers like to playing poker so this kind of game will be less popular than other games such as dice or sport betting
With poker, you will need multiple players in order to play and it's kinda difficult to find those players online and the only way that it will be possible is when they are organizing a big competition online.
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November 14, 2017, 08:42:58 AM
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Betcoin has micro-low stakes cash running over a few tables each day, and it's very soft, but still not enough to grind I'd say.

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November 14, 2017, 09:14:08 AM
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I don't know what is a good poker site in your side, for me nitrogensports and americas card room are a good poker site. I can win on both site if i will choose to leave the table once i x3 my bankroll but no, i kept on playing until i bust everything. If those site are not good to you what is the example of a good poker site for you so that admin can imitate those site if they want to have a poker site. Pokerstars is also a good site but it doesn't have Bitcoin integrated into its system, they have lots of promo and competitions and big prizes in tourney.

Nitrogen poker isn't good with that browser software that they are using , also they need to work more on their games cause it's so hard to find a tournament except like 3 or 4 a day and that's not what a good poker site offers
also they offer 6 and 10 players sit n goes and these like never run , still they aren't offering the heads up sit n go which is so easy to run since it only needs two players , so IMO the managers of nitrogen poker don't know how to run a good poker site

ACR is a great site , but it's a USD site not bitcoin and I'm talking about pure bitcoin poker


for people that are saying lack of players , do you remember seals with clubs ?? at that time bitcoin wasn't even 5% popular like it's now and still we were able to see good bitcoin poker games running

there is no lack of players , people always want to play poker when it's available in a good site
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November 14, 2017, 09:39:31 AM
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I don't know what is a good poker site in your side, for me nitrogensports and americas card room are a good poker site. I can win on both site if i will choose to leave the table once i x3 my bankroll but no, i kept on playing until i bust everything. If those site are not good to you what is the example of a good poker site for you so that admin can imitate those site if they want to have a poker site. Pokerstars is also a good site but it doesn't have Bitcoin integrated into its system, they have lots of promo and competitions and big prizes in tourney.

Nitrogen poker isn't good with that browser software that they are using , also they need to work more on their games cause it's so hard to find a tournament except like 3 or 4 a day and that's not what a good poker site offers
also they offer 6 and 10 players sit n goes and these like never run , still they aren't offering the heads up sit n go which is so easy to run since it only needs two players , so IMO the managers of nitrogen poker don't know how to run a good poker site

ACR is a great site , but it's a USD site not bitcoin and I'm talking about pure bitcoin poker


for people that are saying lack of players , do you remember seals with clubs ?? at that time bitcoin wasn't even 5% popular like it's now and still we were able to see good bitcoin poker games running

there is no lack of players , people always want to play poker when it's available in a good site
I met few poker players on bitcoin gambling sites and they are playing at fiat sites such as 888, pokerstars, partipoker etc because of reasons I wrote in my post above.
Besides, lots of players are playing multiple tables(I actually know a guy who is playing 8 tables at the same time) and that is something you can't really do in site with 50 active players. (nitrogen has 38 at the moment)
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November 14, 2017, 10:17:56 AM
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Not enough players perhaps?
Right, not everyone is interested to play poker or there's not a lot of poker players here in the bitcoin community. On nitrogen's poker cheating can't be avoided, i've been hearing a lot of complaints from different users and their support doesn't seem to care much or don't have any solution to the problem(just my observation). 

I also agree on it, that not too much poker players are here in bitcoin gambling sites. The reason is, Not every gambler could handle the poker game, it need skills, people prefer to play other games like dice than poker because in it in less time they could win or lose and play without skills and also not need to use big capital, that's why i am not playing poker.   

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November 14, 2017, 11:09:06 AM
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Not enough players perhaps?
Right, not everyone is interested to play poker or there's not a lot of poker players here in the bitcoin community. On nitrogen's poker cheating can't be avoided, i've been hearing a lot of complaints from different users and their support doesn't seem to care much or don't have any solution to the problem(just my observation). 

I also agree on it, that not too much poker players are here in bitcoin gambling sites. The reason is, Not every gambler could handle the poker game, it need skills, people prefer to play other games like dice than poker because in it in less time they could win or lose and play without skills and also not need to use big capital, that's why i am not playing poker.   

Without knowing, I would assume a person interested in crypto would have enough about them to play something that at least has the potential to be +ev. Honestly can't understand the mindset of people that play -ev games like roulette etc.. are they just dumb, is that all it is?

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November 14, 2017, 11:56:39 AM
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so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto  so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

That's because online poker is dead.  Even Pokerstars', the biggest online poker site, traffic has been going down over the years.  That's because the players have realized that it's easy to play tight ABC poker, and fish are very few now.  So as games become tighter, not much money changed hands.  Then more and more players lose interest.

Tbh, poker can be quite boring if you have been playing long enough.

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November 14, 2017, 04:08:14 PM
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so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto  so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

That's because online poker is dead.  Even Pokerstars', the biggest online poker site, traffic has been going down over the years.  That's because the players have realized that it's easy to play tight ABC poker, and fish are very few now.  So as games become tighter, not much money changed hands.  Then more and more players lose interest.

Tbh, poker can be quite boring if you have been playing long enough.

I agree, also since newer players have lower chances of winning than those experts at it, the will likely lose a lot and that would mean that they will eventually lose interest in playing the game. There is also no variety that can be had in playing poker, it gets really tiring the longer your play as its just really repetitive. I think this is the reason why there is no one really interested in opening a good poker site.
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