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November 16, 2017, 02:40:43 PM
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I heard a story from my friend that most of the people here have 3 up to multiple account here in bitcoin talk and selling it for a specific amount when it reaches Jr or member rank. Is it allowed to have multiple accounts here using the same IP address? Will there be a chance of getting ban when you are navigating multiple accounts?

I think creating multiple accounts in these forum is not forbidden, though, sooner or later it will be discovered and will just make the accounts with neg trust and will be banned sometimes. With regards to IP address,there was also an incident before I created my account that I just signedup however, there was something that I need to pay some amount because someone already uses the IP address I am using and it is something like "suspicious''.

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November 16, 2017, 02:46:04 PM
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I have ever read a thread in my language sub forum, it say that have multiple account i allowed but make spam  will make you are banned.

It would be best if you spent more time in that subforum as your posts in English are incomprehensible.

I heard a story from my friend that most of the people here have 3 up to multiple account here in bitcoin talk and selling it for a specific amount when it reaches Jr or member rank. Is it allowed to have multiple accounts here using the same IP address? Will there be a chance of getting ban when you are navigating multiple accounts?

Some have more than 20. I heard stories that half of them belong to Theymos, who is actively involved in account trading.
If you want to know more about account trading ask Quickseller. I heard stories that the majority of posts including the word "lauda" came from him.
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November 16, 2017, 05:03:18 PM
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This thread will explain the trusts system https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.msg2221664#msg2221664

In short, everyone builds up their own trust network and you see yourself at DT0 because you obviously trust yourself.
Everyone will see trust left by DT1 and DT2 members and they will also see trust left by people they added to their trust network. Trust left by anyone else will be hidden by default although you can change the setting to see down to whatever level you want.


Thanks. That makes things a bit clearer.
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November 16, 2017, 05:13:27 PM
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But to make things clear: Can I buy an account without being punished or not? I find it somewhat humiliating to be a newbie among all those big star Legendaries and Heroes.
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November 16, 2017, 05:24:34 PM
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But to make things clear: Can I buy an account without being punished or not? I find it somewhat humiliating to be a newbie among all those big star Legendaries and Heroes.

You can buy one if you wish as it's not against the forum rules but certain members will leave you negative for engaging in such behaviour if they deem it appropriate. Everybody starts as a newbie so why don't you just build up your account and reputation like pretty much everyone else did instead of trying to buy it.

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November 16, 2017, 05:35:53 PM
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You can buy one if you wish as it's not against the forum rules but certain members will leave you negative for engaging in such behaviour if they deem it appropriate. Everybody starts as a newbie so why don't you just build up your account and reputation like pretty much everyone else did instead of trying to buy it.
Why? Because of the advantages. I can't even participate in signature campaigns?! It's like saying to someone leaving university to start with cleaning work or sweeping streets.  Cheesy

But I understand that trust has nothing to do with the forum rules but everything with what users think of one another. Correct? Does that also mean that there are no forum rules, no sanctions, and that it's a wild West and anarchy around here?
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November 16, 2017, 06:08:38 PM
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I only have one account, but I think,having multiple accounts is not a problem, but with the "IP address" is different, because if the same could be potentially banned by the moderator.
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November 16, 2017, 06:19:20 PM
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You can buy one if you wish as it's not against the forum rules but certain members will leave you negative for engaging in such behaviour if they deem it appropriate. Everybody starts as a newbie so why don't you just build up your account and reputation like pretty much everyone else did instead of trying to buy it.
Why? Because of the advantages. I can't even participate in signature campaigns?!

Poor you. You shouldn't be here just to greedily and eagerly earn from signature campaigns without paying your dues. Most of us here built up our rank and reputation over time and so should you.

It's like saying to someone leaving university to start with cleaning work or sweeping streets.  Cheesy

This isn't a university, but most people leaving uni don't just go straight into being managers or CEOs or try to buy their way through the ranks. They work their way up by hard work over time.

But I understand that trust has nothing to do with the forum rules but everything with what users think of one another. Correct? Does that also mean that there are no forum rules, no sanctions, and that it's a wild West and anarchy around here?

There are rules. They're stickied in this very sub forum. I suggest you read them. The trust list isn't really moderated and is left up to the community to police so people are free to leave feedback on behaviour they deem appropriate or inappropriate, but yeah, this forum is pretty much the wild west but people should be responsible for their own actions and money and not expect to be baby sat through everything.


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November 16, 2017, 06:19:53 PM
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Why? Because of the advantages. I can't even participate in signature campaigns?! It's like saying to someone leaving university to start with cleaning work or sweeping streets.  Cheesy

Because the signature campaign would be renting your advertising space under false pretenses. You would be pretending to be someone you are not and defrauding them. That is why people in this community would not trust you.

But I understand that trust has nothing to do with the forum rules but everything with what users think of one another. Correct? Does that also mean that there are no forum rules, no sanctions, and that it's a wild West and anarchy around here?

You seem confused, these two sentences directly contradict each other. The rules have nothing to do with trust, that is a matter for the community to police. The forum rules can be found in the stickies in this board and are enforced by the moderators. Aside from that running your monetary system is a bit anarchic I suppose.

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November 16, 2017, 07:52:50 PM
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The rules have nothing to do with trust,

So simple yet so clear. My confusion is now gone. One can give trust or distrust as one likes. But then why are only a few given te power to give trustpoint and not everyone? It is even so that some people who are very much distrusted by others are still given te power to give trust points. Isn't that a bit unfair? In the wild West at least every cowboy could carry a gun to defend himself.

You can buy one if you wish as it's not against the forum rules but certain members will leave you negative for engaging in such behaviour if they deem it appropriate. Everybody starts as a newbie so why don't you just build up your account and reputation like pretty much everyone else did instead of trying to buy it.
Why? Because of the advantages. I can't even participate in signature campaigns?!

Poor you. You shouldn't be here just to greedily and eagerly earn from signature campaigns without paying your dues. Most of us here built up our rank and reputation over time and so should you.

It's like saying to someone leaving university to start with cleaning work or sweeping streets.  Cheesy

This isn't a university, but most people leaving uni don't just go straight into being managers or CEOs or try to buy their way through the ranks. They work their way up by hard work over time.

But I understand that trust has nothing to do with the forum rules but everything with what users think of one another. Correct? Does that also mean that there are no forum rules, no sanctions, and that it's a wild West and anarchy around here?

There are rules. They're stickied in this very sub forum. I suggest you read them. The trust list isn't really moderated and is left up to the community to police so people are free to leave feedback on behaviour they deem appropriate or inappropriate, but yeah, this forum is pretty much the wild west but people should be responsible for their own actions and money and not expect to be baby sat through everything.



I'm not poor for wanting to have a respected account. I'm poor for not having a respected account. For that exposes me to abuse by the powerful ones with green points but no morals. Would this be a proper and fairly moderated forum I could probably agree with your thought of working your way up. But I have the impression that in a wild West forum with a couple of corrupt sherriffs who alone are given guns honesty and a hard working mentality is not enough.
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November 16, 2017, 08:15:30 PM
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The rules have nothing to do with trust,

So simple yet so clear. My confusion is now gone. One can give trust or distrust as one likes. But then why are only a few given te power to give trustpoint and not everyone?

Anyone can leave trust on anyone else. People are responsible for their own actions. Do you want liberty and freedom or do you want a nanny state and fascism?

It is even so that some people who are very much distrusted by others are still given te power to give trust points. Isn't that a bit unfair? In the wild West at least every cowboy could carry a gun to defend himself.

Are you unarmed or not able to defend yourself? Some people can be trusted to carry a gun whilst others can't. Some people are better shooters than others. Some will use that gun for good and some will use it for bad. Which one are you? I think when people try to buy themselves into positions of trust or power you're more likely to belong to the latter. Why don't you actually try to actually earn the community's trust and respect instead of trying to be someone you are not. Your reasoning seems very cowardly to me.

I'm not poor for wanting to have a respected account. I'm poor for not having a respected account. For that exposes me to abuse by the powerful ones with green points but no morals. Would this be a proper and fairly moderated forum I could probably agree with your thought of working your way up. But I have the impression that in a wild West forum with a couple of corrupt sherriffs who alone are given guns honesty and a hard working mentality is not enough.

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No, poor you that you somehow feel like you have to buy an account here to participate in a signature campaign. Poor you that at the most you have to wait a couple of weeks or months. I'm not sure why you think buying a legendary account somehow gains you respect or will shield you from abuse either because it doesn't. A bought legendary account is worthy of nothing but a title and if people find out that you have bought it it will be marked as such because you haven't earned the respect or rank, but the mere fact that you are wanting to buy an account makes you part of this very Wild West that you apparently have such a dislike of. If anyone relishes the fact that this place is a wild west it's the person who is happy to try buy himself into some sort of position of respect and recognition without earning it and makes you the corrupt one if anything.

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November 16, 2017, 09:00:29 PM
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Anyone can leave trust on anyone else. People are responsible for their own actions. Do you want liberty and freedom or do you want a nanny state and fascism?
I want liberty and freedom. And not dictatorship and a police state. Do you want that? For that is the present situation.

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Are you unarmed or not able to defend yourself? Some people can be trusted to carry a gun whilst others can't. Some people are better shooters than others. Some will use that gun for good and some will use it for bad. Which one are you? I think when people try to buy themselves into positions of trust or power you're more likely to belong to the latter. Why don't you actually try to actually earn the community's trust and respect instead of trying to be someone you are not. Your reasoning seems very cowardly to me.
Yes, I am unarmed. I can't shoot red points, however I can be shot at. And purchasing a gun could give you just the assertiveness you need to survive here. You see, there are lots of members around here pretending to be someone they are not. Like members pretending to be honest and trustable members. Parading around with their by their political friends given green points. While in reality they have not even one grain of morality in them. On the other side you also find a lot of members who would deserve trust and respect from the community for their honesty and work but who instead receive nothing but contempt and disrespect. Given out by who? Take a guess.


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No, poor you that you somehow feel like you have to buy an account here to participate in a signature campaign. Poor you that at the most you have to wait a couple of weeks or months. I'm not sure why you think buying a legendary account somehow gains you respect or will shield you from abuse either because it doesn't. A bought legendary account is worthy of nothing but a title and if people find out that you have bought it it will be marked as such because you haven't earned the respect or rank, but the mere fact that you are wanting to buy an account makes you part of this very Wild West that you apparently have such a dislike of. If anyone relishes the fact that this place is a wild west it's the person who is happy to try buy himself into some sort of position of respect and recognition without earning it and makes you the corrupt one if anything.
You should not turn things around. This place is not a wild West because I would buy a Legendary account, I would buy a Legendary account because this place is a wild West where honesty and working your way up is often rewarded with a couple of red bullets from a few corrupt sherrifs in town. Besides; In reality I don't have any money or interest to buy such an account. I brought it up to address the issue this forum has with abusive use of power which would force one to buy an account because honesty doesn't seem to pay around here.
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November 16, 2017, 09:26:30 PM
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Are you unarmed or not able to defend yourself? Some people can be trusted to carry a gun whilst others can't. Some people are better shooters than others. Some will use that gun for good and some will use it for bad. Which one are you? I think when people try to buy themselves into positions of trust or power you're more likely to belong to the latter. Why don't you actually try to actually earn the community's trust and respect instead of trying to be someone you are not. Your reasoning seems very cowardly to me.
Yes, I am unarmed. I can't shoot red points, however I can be shot at. And purchasing a gun could give you just the assertiveness you need to survive here. You see, there are lots of members around here pretending to be someone they are not. Like members pretending to be honest and trustable members. Parading around with their by their political friends given green points. While in reality they have not even one grain of morality in them. On the other side you also find a lot of members who would deserve trust and respect from the community for their honesty and work but who instead receive nothing but contempt and disrespect. Given out by who? Take a guess.

You want to buy a legendary account and you can't even quote people properly. You see, that's one of the things you acquire while leveling your account. You seem like a person that likes shortcuts. In road terms you want to overtake people and cut them off like an asshole instead of playing by the rules like the rest.
You're right that some people here can't be trusted and you're one of those people.
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November 16, 2017, 10:16:56 PM
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I want liberty and freedom. And not dictatorship and a police state.

No you don't. You want it only when it suits you. If you wanted freedom then you would appreciate anarchy and a wild west atmosphere and people being able to do what they want even if you don't like or agree with it. You remind me of a plastic liberal who loves free speech right up until the point somebody does or says something they don't like and then they lose it and want that person either banned, silenced or arrested.

Yes, I am unarmed.

Are you not armed with wit or intelligence? It seems you are relying far too much on weapons to defend yourself.

I can't shoot red points, however I can be shot at.

Why does everything revolve around red points to you? People earn those points over time by being  honest and a productive member. You obviously did something that was seen as dishonest. Scammers often don't like it when their scams are halted before they even happen.

You see, there are lots of members around here pretending to be someone they are not.

Like yourself? The irony.

You should not turn things around. This place is not a wild West because I would buy a Legendary account, I would buy a Legendary account because this place is a wild West where honesty and working your way up is often rewarded with a couple of red bullets from a few corrupt sherrifs in town. Besides; In reality I don't have any money or interest to buy such an account. I brought it up to address the issue this forum has with abusive use of power which would force one to buy an account because honesty doesn't seem to pay around here.

I dunno. I think honesty does pay and those that are honest are noticed and get the respect they deserve but that takes time.

You want to buy a legendary account and you can't even quote people properly. You see, that's one of the things you acquire while leveling your account. You seem like a person that likes shortcuts. In road terms you want to overtake people and cut them off like an asshole instead of playing by the rules like the rest.
You're right that some people here can't be trusted and you're one of those people.


This guy pretending to be a girl obviously isn't a new member and is just a coward hiding behind one. He knows far too much about the forum for a day old account and the so called "corruption" going on here and has created a throwaway to try make his point with bizarre analogies. I'm guessing he did something that was seen as dodgy or scammy or something and probably tried to buy an account and got tagged for it hence his butthurt about it. Possibly an alt of TanyaDegurechaff as there's lots of similarities.

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November 16, 2017, 11:01:56 PM
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No you don't. You want it only when it suits you. If you wanted freedom then you would appreciate anarchy and a wild west atmosphere and people being able to do what they want even if you don't like or agree with it. You remind me of a plastic liberal who loves free speech right up until the point somebody does or says something they don't like and then they lose it and want that person either banned, silenced or arrested.
I want the freedom that respects the freedom of all. Not the freedom to limit other's freedom. That is your cup of tea.

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Are you not armed with wit or intelligence? It seems you are relying far too much on weapons to defend yourself.
My wit and intelligence serve the morality I am armed with. They don't serve devious plans that damage others for my own profit. Your nature is begining to shine through. A little bit more talk and your true nature is exposed.

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Why does everything revolve around red points to you? People earn those points over time by being  honest and a productive member. You obviously did something that was seen as dishonest. Scammers often don't like it when their scams are halted before they even happen.
People don't earn points by being honest but by applying their wit and intelligence to forum politics, sucking up to people in power. Now you are accusing me of dishonesty while you don't know anything about it. Do you? I have only been talking here a little and already you have decided upon me being a scammer. That is exactly what I mean. What did I write just a few lines above? Your true nature getting exposed. Grand Legendary Global Moderator 50+ Trusted Hilariousandco decides upon me being a scammer without any evidence or proper research. Next step is red bullets. Is your finger at the trigger yet?

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Like yourself? The irony.
No, like you, as you have shown above.

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This guy pretending to be a girl obviously isn't a new member and is just a coward hiding behind one. He knows far too much about the forum for a day old account and the so called "corruption" going on here and has created a throwaway to try make his point with bizarre analogies. I'm guessing he did something that was seen as dodgy or scammy or something and probably tried to buy an account and got tagged for it hence his butthurt about it. Possibly an alt of TanyaDegurechaff as there's lots of similarities.
Not knowing anything about me but already judging (scammer) and calling names (coward) by the Grand Legendary Global Moderator 50+ Trusted Hilariousandco. Here we have the forum problem I have been adressing exposed in an examplary way.
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November 17, 2017, 12:12:23 AM
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I heard a story from my friend that most of the people here have 3 up to multiple account here in bitcoin talk and selling it for a specific amount when it reaches Jr or member rank. Is it allowed to have multiple accounts here using the same IP address? Will there be a chance of getting ban when you are navigating multiple accounts?

I guess that it is not allowed to have multiple accounts here, using same or different IP address. Although i'm not sure if you'll get banned, or just trust tagged. Let's see if a more experienced user can answer your question. Now i'm curious.
Right. Every campaign is writing that multiple accounts are not allowed here on the forum. And I wander how do your friends used to sell their accounts in all trying of account selling get banned fast. Well, that's what I heard from different Meta discussions.
And I actually would be very careful to even ask something like that here on the forum, you with such kind of questions simply can caught moderators' attention and one step wrong and you will be kicked out.
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November 17, 2017, 01:13:23 AM
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dev must banned if the cought multiple account to be fair to all.
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November 18, 2017, 03:14:06 AM
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I think it's not illegal to have multiple accounts with the same ip address in bitcoin. you can not just join a signature campaign with multiple accounts, because you can be banned.

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November 18, 2017, 08:12:09 AM
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I think it's not illegal to have multiple accounts with the same ip address in bitcoin. you can not just join a signature campaign with multiple accounts, because you can be banned.
Almost every experienced member around here has multiple accounts. One for each agenda. It's an open secret. Just don't spread such news about yourself. You may be sent red trust. And even newbie accounts with red trust are pretty useless. Except perhaps for safely speaking the truth about the green trusted Legendaries' true nature.
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November 18, 2017, 08:34:47 AM
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Almost every experienced member around here has multiple accounts. One for each agenda.

Please provide evidence in a list preferably, per member and his altaccount.

But to make things clear: Can I buy an account without being punished or not? I find it somewhat humiliating to be a newbie among all those big star Legendaries and Heroes.

Do you have some uncertainties that your rank reflects who you are? Do you really think that buying an account will keep you safe. By looking at your post history, even with a legendary account you are going to get discovered, reported and tagged. 

Except perhaps for safely speaking the truth about the green trusted Legendaries' true nature.

You have some serious grudge against green trusted legendaries as this is not the first time you are posting this, did they do something to you?

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