[ANN][SIC] Sifcoin - inflation fork

[Storan]

Based on code Bitcoin 0.8.2 (append fix 0.8.3)

Start: 2013-06-23, 00:00 GMT

Coin: infinity in time

Block target: 5 minutes

Dif retarget: every block, +-1% of mean last hour

1 Coin = 100'000 Satoshi

Block reward = 1Coin + bonus
bonus = sqrt(Diff * block#) Satoshi (eq 0 in start, hundreds in far future)

Hash-mining: chain in sha-3 candidate-finalis-win function Blake=>BMW=>Groestl=>JH=>Keccak=>Skein. While only cpu-mining (built-in qt miner)


Download links: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sifcoin/ (win32-exe )
source
http://sourceforge.net/p/sifcoin/code/ci/master/tree/
https://github.com/sifcoin/sifcoin


original (rus) post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.0


known node

addnode=206.248.191.155

[1715626693]

1715626693

[1715626693]

1715626693

[1715626693]

1715626693

[seleme]

Syphilis Coin?

I won't touch that

Good luck

[peonminer]

WUT


HEY ZUEZ CHRIST


A LITTLE BETTER RELEASE PARTY WOULD BE NICE

[peonminer]

translated original release


Topic: Sifcoin (inflationary fork). Start 23/06/2013. (Read 9 times)
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Sifcoin (inflationary fork). Start 23/06/2013.
Today at 6:19:48 PM
  # 1
First of all - a big thank you to the author and to all the participants of this theme TrueCoin <- correct coin , fork idea was born there. So, the new kriptovalyuta Simple Inflation Fork of Bitcoin - Sifcoin / SIC / (simple inflationary fork of Bitcoin.) Run - June 23 2013, 00:00 GMT. Features: unlimited in time emission (money supply growth of about 5% / year, a well-established system) units only PoW, the reward for a block depends on the demand kriptovalyuty (reacts to increase the capacity of the network); generation unit time in 5 minutes, conversion of each unit (based on the average of the past and the generation time of 13 units / range one o'clock /, with a slight adjustment to the total number of units created in relation to their calculated amount); hesh function for the signature block header changed from sha-256 (sha-256 ()), on the daisy chain of the candidates / finalists and winner sha-3. Blake, BMW, Groestl, JH, Keccak, Skein. All functions of the 512-bit, but the end result is truncated to 256 bits. (Rejection of the sha-256 and scrypt - to protect against a possible startup sharp influx, and then just as sharp outflow capacity miners from other currencies, and the subsequent "paralysis." Complication chain to a length of 6 different hash functions and increased bit depth to intermediate 512 - an attempt to protect from further development of highly efficient Mh / s gpu-algorithms and theory, "simple" Gh / s devices). bit of sad: separate working miner has not been written, the generation is performed at the client (on cpu); also There is no associated infrastructure: the exchange, exchangers, calculator, blokcheyn explorer, wikis and the like; network will be fully p2p, any selected nodes handing out new ip nodam no, no-addnode apparently will not do, very often in the readme, clues to the program, copyrights, etc. will be meeting called Bitcoin - the natural consequence of laziness all correct. And the most important primary task was set to implement a paradigm issue, not a cosmetic change in the wrapper, with complete duplication of the rest of Bitcoin, may be critical bugs. Some figures premayn = 0, 1 coin = 100,000 Satoshi; voznagrazhdenie_za_blok = 1 coin + koren_kvadratnyy_iz (slozhnost_seti * № block) Satoshi. feature of this formula (unlike the vast majority of other kriptovalyut) - at the start of the life of the system, and at low power networks, resulting in ore mining pioneers "earnings" is not superior in thousands / millions of times similar income miners in the same kriptovalyute over time. On the one hand, it will beat the desire to contact sic'ami, on the other hand - money supply and circulation will be exactly when to kriptovalyute will be of broad interest that in the future may provide a much more trusting relationship. Moreover, the inflationary component, and a positive response to the growing interest in the issue (that is to say an increase in power) in the long term provide an order of magnitude better protection from the disease every popular deflationary currency / money savings - periodically speculative growth rate, the formation of the bubble and its subsequent collapse, with the crash course. That is why the model for the role of money as a medium of exchange / payment is much better suited to the proposed Bitcoin - money as a store of value. Download link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sifcoin/ (win32 executable to test clean " newly installed "Windows XP sp3, and Windows 7 sp1 normally starts and runs) (source code to compile successfully on the test Ubuntu 13.04 (32 and 64 versions). Requirements libraries are exactly the same as in Bitcoins) Few marketing  organizational issue is solved, sending letters to the president UN, that he in the UN passed a law banning dollars, euros and MNT and the transfer of all payments to sic. On Monday, under the auspices of the UN, IMF call all accountants to salaries and pensions were given only our money. So if you start Maini today - there's a good chance to win, the same lottery and become a millionaire tomorrow. In addition, before the end of the month operates a unique event - bring in Mining 6 friends, shoot this video and place it vkontakte. For this, we will remove a hash function out of your unit. And if all your friends will have to 6 friends - we put your blocks only half functions. This will allow you to earn 100% more money. And after the opening exchanges, the rate will be higher than that of Bitcoin, and that you sold all the coins in general will become fabulously wealthy    cronies luck, rays diarrhea detractors 

[Scooby903]

Anyone checked this out yet?

[Oldminer]

'sif

And yes, please have a party before release next time (we like our parties)

[fenican]

Suggest we rename this to Inflation Coin

[Storan]

Thx for comment.
Last paragraph in russian post - is laughing at the "fork" of a Huge changes. As an example - changed interface and generation time unit, and all the rest of the clone Bitcoin.

Yes, I must admit - Sifcoin now, it's a concept.
The main thing - the lack of a model premain / great starter main, and the further adaptation currency for trading, is not a treasure like Bitcoin.
CryptoCurrency-treasure (any deflation like Bitcoin) - is doomed to cyclical commodity bubbles. This currency is good for savings and speculators, but it is of little use to the daily trading with real goods and services, just like real gold.

Then, change the name, logo, to give to the management and support of the interested group of people - I have no problem. The first step, a pose to people that cryptocurrency form: X million coins maximum, conversion of every m blocks, Halving awards every n blocks - this is not the only option, and more - this is not the best option.

sorry for google translate english.

p.s. if someone decided to download a purse, and has a permanent IP, please post it here for others to addnode parameter, it will help create the initial network of peers.

[Rubberduckie]

Anyone know what port to use? And some peers please

[Leyur]

how to mine？

[Storan]

port - 8373
mining in Qt console, "setgenerate true <number_or_core_cpu>"
But, like all Cryptocoin mining started after connect to currency network.

  uncomfortable step-by-step algorithm to added in windows

in Windows system console (Win, "cmd", enter) /Linux similar to terminal/
"nslookup storan.no-ip.info"

recive ip, for sample 95.58.166.224

in Qt console "addnode 95.58.166.224 add"

profit

[GSnak]

I won't mine any coin that doesn't have a logo that took three minutes to make.

[The_Catman]

...what?

[mullick]

LOL how is TRUCoin involved... This will be interesting

Nm not trucoin TRUEcoin

[mullick]

Anyone else getting the no block source available error?

Could it be a network issue with my VM?

[com911]

Anyone else getting the no block source available error?

Could it be a network issue with my VM?

Same thing.

[Giskard]

Still no working node. Anyone?

Code:

telnet 95.58.166.224 8373
Connecting To 95.58.166.224...Could not open connection to the host, on port 8373: Connect failed

And source code?

[wire]

working nodes pls

[mill0601]

How would i provide myself as a node?

[aa]

How would i provide myself as a node?

Run the client for this Russian shitcoin, keep it open forever and paste your IP here.

[mill0601]

Atleast its a sha-3 coin something a little different. Do I not need to forward a port through my router to the machine running the client??

[aa]

Atleast its a sha-3 coin something a little different. Do I not need to forward a port through my router to the machine running the client??

Someone else already released a shitty SHA-3 coin. It was just as shit as this one.

[Giskard]

Atleast its a sha-3 coin something a little different. Do I not need to forward a port through my router to the machine running the client??

Yes, you have to open a port. I don't know the port number, no sources with this sheeet coin.

You can choose your own port by putting "port=1234" in your .conf file.

[mill0601]

11 active connections now looks like it's working

[mill0601]

since you need the wallet running on each machine this makes it very difficult for botnets.

[ig0tik3d]

where is source code?

[Giskard]

Mysterious coin this. No source code.

Send here if you want to test  

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[Hydroponica]

holy difficulty batman. Probably adjusting way to quickly, for a coin that can only be mined solo

[jdebunt]

skipping this one, too many coins already which are better (atleast in announcing & releasing)

[com911]

skipping this one, too many coins already which are better (atleast in announcing & releasing)

This is relatively innovative coin with 6 crypto-algoritms (Blake, BMW, Groestl, JH, Keccak, Skein) + block reward depending on difficulty.
CPU-only at this time.
No premine.
That is actually what a lot of people waited for.

[com911]

holy difficulty batman. Probably adjusting way to quickly, for a coin that can only be mined solo

Diff adjusting every block.

Nodes for those who can't connect (not all permanent):

Code:

addnode=105.236.147.148
addnode=12.70.66.24
addnode=176.192.28.166
addnode=195.110.47.133
addnode=195.110.6.119
addnode=2.134.209.230
addnode=206.248.191.155
addnode=209.190.27.90
addnode=213.234.238.158
addnode=24.120.117.241
addnode=24.142.37.120
addnode=72.23.76.121
addnode=78.37.167.157
addnode=83.234.137.9
addnode=89.239.190.23
addnode=90.188.37.134
addnode=91.210.116.186
addnode=91.210.176.202
addnode=91.218.212.174
addnode=92.115.69.196
addnode=95.29.38.169
addnode=97.107.169.254

[ig0tik3d]

addnode=92.115.69.196

[defaced]

not sure what im seeing

[Aggrophobia]

no source? -.-

[com911]

no source? -.-

soon

[Storan]

no source? -.-

source here: http://sourceforge.net/p/sifcoin/code/ci/master/tree/

LOL how is TRUCoin involved... This will be interesting

Nm not trucoin TRUEcoin

Yep, idea is completely taken out of the "truecoin" by Ukigo.
But Ukigo thought about professional start - premine, the distribution of coins in the forum, the order for coins binding, advertising, writing gpu-miner, etc. But then he changed his mind to create a currency, and the idea hung in the air.

I approached the issue as a hobby, and made only a pure client. Initially, no amenities, but everything is open and honest - the maximum that I could offer.

[com911]

Nice diff increasing.

15:56:39

{
"blocks" : 419,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 3.22453954,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : 4,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

23:05:41

{
"blocks" : 1208,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 30.54004511,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : 4,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

[anderl]

skipping this one, too many coins already which are better (atleast in announcing & releasing)

This is relatively innovative coin with 6 crypto-algoritms (Blake, BMW, Groestl, JH, Keccak, Skein) + block reward depending on difficulty.
CPU-only at this time.
No premine.
That is actually what a lot of people waited for.

why, what was the point if 6 algorithms, why not 7 or 5.  What is your purpose other than adding complexity to a solution that is already exists (scrypt)?

[mill0601]

The best thing we can do is get this on an exchange sooner rather then later. Atleast there was no premine and quick diff adjust means no one can dump a large amount of coins.

[tacotime]

skipping this one, too many coins already which are better (atleast in announcing & releasing)

This is relatively innovative coin with 6 crypto-algoritms (Blake, BMW, Groestl, JH, Keccak, Skein) + block reward depending on difficulty.
CPU-only at this time.
No premine.
That is actually what a lot of people waited for.

why, what was the point if 6 algorithms, why not 7 or 5.  What is your purpose other than adding complexity to a solution that is already exists (scrypt)?

Because everyone knows that using six 512-bit hashing algorithms consecutively and then truncating the last 256-bits means that your coins can't be GPU mined, duh!  It's not like you can just reduce the search space to what the difficulty is and only check random hashes against the last hashing algorithm, either.

Someone is GPU mining this right now.

[fendlestick]

The best thing we can do is get this on an exchange sooner rather then later. Atleast there was no premine and quick diff adjust means no one can dump a large amount of coins.

You can request coins-e at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240717.0 they will probably take you, if not straight away possibly quite quickly if you show you are keen.

[mill0601]

skipping this one, too many coins already which are better (atleast in announcing & releasing)

This is relatively innovative coin with 6 crypto-algoritms (Blake, BMW, Groestl, JH, Keccak, Skein) + block reward depending on difficulty.
CPU-only at this time.
No premine.
That is actually what a lot of people waited for.

why, what was the point if 6 algorithms, why not 7 or 5.  What is your purpose other than adding complexity to a solution that is already exists (scrypt)?

Because everyone knows that using six 512-bit hashing algorithms consecutively and then truncating the last 256-bits means that your coins can't be GPU mined, duh!  It's not like you can just reduce the search space to what the difficulty is and only check random hashes against the last hashing algorithm, either.

Someone is GPU mining this right now.

With how few coins that have been generated I highly doubt anyone is gpu mining

[tacotime]

With how few coins that have been generated I highly doubt anyone is gpu mining

Well, all the hash functions are included in the source as .c files, if someone isn't GPU mining without a few hours I don't know when they will be.  It should be like Bitcoin in that GPUs will be expected to hash at rates of around 50-100 fold that of CPUs.  Most of the algorithms selected are high throughput and benefit strongly from parallelization.

[hl5460]

Based on code Bitcoin 0.8.2

Start: 2013-06-23, 00:00 GMT

Coin: infinity in time

Block target: 5 minutes

Dif retarget: every block, +-1% of mean last hour

1 Coin = 100'000 Satoshi

Block reward = 1Coin + bonus
bonus = sqrt(Diff * block#) Satoshi (eq 0 in start, hundreds in far future)

Hash-mining: chain in sha-3 candidate-finalis-win function Blake=>BMW=>Groestl=>JH=>Keccak=>Skein. While only cpu-mining (built-in qt miner)


Download links: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sifcoin/ (win32-exe and source code for another)

original (rus) post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.0


known node

addnode=206.248.191.155
addnode=206.248.191.155

I thought satoshi is just for BTC?

[Storan]

why, what was the point if 6 algorithms, why not 7 or 5.  What is your purpose other than adding complexity to a solution that is already exists (scrypt)?

just like that 
long chain complicates gpu optimization thousands of times, there is a function not so accelerated, and it will slow down the entire chain functions.
Unfortunately, i no have knowledge of mathe, pre-select in this regard "good" algorithms.

I thought satoshi is just for BTC?

Why not? good, the traditional name for the atomic unit cryptocurrency.

[maxsolnc]

Does the client have possibility to look on generation speed? Both per machine and whole network

[ig0tik3d]

i will pay 75 SIC for first pool and 75 SIC for miner on cpu..

[mill0601]

i will pay 75 SIC for first pool and 75 SIC for miner on cpu..

I will add 10 sic to each of those

[tacotime]

why, what was the point if 6 algorithms, why not 7 or 5.  What is your purpose other than adding complexity to a solution that is already exists (scrypt)?

just like that 
long chain complicates gpu optimization thousands of times, there is a function not so accelerated, and it will slow down the entire chain functions.
Unfortunately, i no have knowledge of mathe, pre-select in this regard "good" algorithms.

no

[Balthazar]

Just a dirty example in pseudo-code:

Code:

PoWHash(Data):
    laFunctions = [Skein, scrypt_pbkdf2_salsa, scrypt_keccak_chacha, Groestl, Keccak, SHA512, Blake]
    liFuncIndex = 3
    lsHash = Data

    lI = 0

    while lI < 5:
        if liFuncIndex < 0 or liFuncIndex > len(laFunctions):
            liFuncIndex = 3

        lsHash = laFunctions [liFuncIndex](lsHash)

        if (lsHash[64]&(1<<0))!=0:
            liFuncIndex = liFuncIndex - 1
        else:
            liFuncIndex = liFuncIndex + 1
        lI = lI + 1

    return lsHash 

 

But it's potentially vulnerable to lsHash[64]&(1<<0) brute-forcing. This could be resolved by adding more conditions to make it stronger.

[h2odysee]

Looking briefly at the code, it looks like it doesn't chain together the hash functions, but instead does keccak, then twice does either blake, groest, jh, or skein, depending on the hash of the previous block. I'm looking at the Hash5() function.

Why doesn't it just chain one after the other?

[mill0601]

any word on getting on an exchange yet? I really think this is the best cpu only coin we have had.

[SpaceCadet]

This is an intriguing coin, but my pyccкий is not very good, so I have a few questions:

1. Do we need to set "generate=1" in the .conf to mine? (I seem to be mining ok, but I had it 'on' just to be safe)
2. Current blocksize is 1000, but I seem to be getting 1 SIC every minute or so (on a mobile sandy bridge i7 using 3 cores) - is this the expected behavior?
3. getmininginfo reports 'hashespersec' : 0, yet I appear to be mining coin (see #2) - is this the expected behavior?
4. How many confirms to confirm a transaction?
5. How stable is the nodelist?  I get 1 or 2, then sometimes 0 connections using the long nodelist in an earlier post.
6. Anymore info you can provide on the unique machanics of this coin would be a great help!

Cheers!

[maxsolnc]

This is an intriguing coin, but my pyccкий is not very good, so I have a few questions:

1. Do we need to set "generate=1" in the .conf to mine? (I seem to be mining ok, but I had it 'on' just to be safe)
2. Current blocksize is 1000, but I seem to be getting 1 SIC every minute or so (on a mobile sandy bridge i7 using 3 cores) - is this the expected behavior?
3. getmininginfo reports 'hashespersec' : 0, yet I appear to be mining coin (see #2) - is this the expected behavior?
4. How many confirms to confirm a transaction?
5. How stable is the nodelist?  I get 1 or 2, then sometimes 0 connections using the long nodelist in an earlier post.
6. Anymore info you can provide on the unique machanics of this coin would be a great help!

Cheers!

I'm not developer of the coin, but:
2. It's unreal number. I was getting ~2 SIC per hour with 100+ cores last day, so you can just restart your wallet to check
3. It's normal - developer didn't add this functionality yet
5. 5-7 is good, 0-1 is bad - maybe it is cause of your "1 coin per minute"

[mill0601]

This is an intriguing coin, but my pyccкий is not very good, so I have a few questions:

1. Do we need to set "generate=1" in the .conf to mine? (I seem to be mining ok, but I had it 'on' just to be safe)
2. Current blocksize is 1000, but I seem to be getting 1 SIC every minute or so (on a mobile sandy bridge i7 using 3 cores) - is this the expected behavior?
3. getmininginfo reports 'hashespersec' : 0, yet I appear to be mining coin (see #2) - is this the expected behavior?
4. How many confirms to confirm a transaction?
5. How stable is the nodelist?  I get 1 or 2, then sometimes 0 connections using the long nodelist in an earlier post.
6. Anymore info you can provide on the unique machanics of this coin would be a great help!

Cheers!

current block is 1938 so there must be something wrong

[Balthazar]

Current blocksize has no connection with block reward. It's just block size in kB.

[SpaceCadet]

Thanks for the feedback!  

Now that the client has been running a bit longer, I noticed an interesting pattern.  

I should first point out that I'm testing this at work (sshhhh!), so most of the nodes are getting blocked by the firewall leaving me with usually just one connection.  (before you point out that IT will hang my ass for this, a) you are probably right but b) there are over 700 people just in this building so my threads are a drop in the bucket and I won't be leaving this running .  

This means it's taking a very long time to sync the transaction history. However, I've noticed that each time the client reports a new mined transaction, I find that another block is processed in the network transaction history (ie, "Processed N of 1943 (estimated) blocks in the transaction history" when I hover over the updating icon in the bottom corner of the client (N = also equals the number of coins it says I've mined).

I think this is more than a coincidence!  I will shut this down here for now and try it on one of my machines at home to get a more 'realistic' behavior, but I wanted to throw this out there in case it was useful to the dev...

Cheers!

UPDATE: Running the client at home was much more successful - it behaved as most clients do.  And it has generated a coin! (after it was fully sync'd)...

UPDATE2: (6/28) I had a corrupted data file - when I copied the directory to another machine, it was still misbehaving (even though I had a working instance (saved off of course) on that machine).  So the problem was on my end...  The original distro was ok.

[maxsolnc]

Number of 1990 blocks reached! Seems like total hashrate slowed down, so generating speed is near to 250 coins per day, maybe a little bit more.

[mill0601]

Number of 1990 blocks reached! Seems like total hashrate slowed down, so generating speed is near to 250 coins per day, maybe a little bit more.

we need more support for this coin it is really overlooked for some reason. Probably the inability to pump and dump.

[SpaceCadet]

Number of 1990 blocks reached! Seems like total hashrate slowed down, so generating speed is near to 250 coins per day, maybe a little bit more.

It has - I mined about 6 coin in the first 24 -30 hours, but the next 24 hours I only mined 1 on the same machine/config.  Diff shot up and luck was down  

Now it makes me wish I had sprung for the faster cpu

BTW: does the windows .exe use all available processing extensions available in today's cpus (like SSE3)?  That's more a function of the compiler settings than the source code.  Would a 64-bit version buy much in terms of performance?  If the operations are mostly 32-bit int then probably not (I suppose I could look at the source to get a clue on that)...

[ig0tik3d]

Number of 1990 blocks reached! Seems like total hashrate slowed down, so generating speed is near to 250 coins per day, maybe a little bit more.

It has - I mined about 6 coin in the first 24 -30 hours, but the next 24 hours I only mined 1 on the same machine/config.  Diff shot up and luck was down  

Now it makes me wish I had sprung for the faster cpu

BTW: does the windows .exe use all available processing extensions available in today's cpus (like SSE3)?  That's more a function of the compiler settings than the source code.  Would a 64-bit version buy much in terms of performance?  If the operations are mostly 32-bit int then probably not (I suppose I could look at the source to get a clue on that)...

source cpu miner http://sourceforge.net/projects/sifcoin/files/cpuminer-1.0.2.zip/download
and modificated wallet http://sourceforge.net/projects/sifcoin/files/sifcoin-code.zip/download

i compiled miner and wallet, but not sure is optimized for x64
minerd http://rghost.ru/47044682
wallet new http://rghost.ru/47044633

sifcoin.conf

Code:

rpcuser=123
rpcpassword=1234567890
server=1
rpcallowip=*

Code:

minerd --url http://127.0.0.1:8372 --userpass 123:1234567890 -t 4

[mill0601]

Number of 1990 blocks reached! Seems like total hashrate slowed down, so generating speed is near to 250 coins per day, maybe a little bit more.

It has - I mined about 6 coin in the first 24 -30 hours, but the next 24 hours I only mined 1 on the same machine/config.  Diff shot up and luck was down  

Now it makes me wish I had sprung for the faster cpu

BTW: does the windows .exe use all available processing extensions available in today's cpus (like SSE3)?  That's more a function of the compiler settings than the source code.  Would a 64-bit version buy much in terms of performance?  If the operations are mostly 32-bit int then probably not (I suppose I could look at the source to get a clue on that)...

source cpu miner http://sourceforge.net/projects/sifcoin/files/cpuminer-1.0.2.zip/download
and modificated wallet http://sourceforge.net/projects/sifcoin/files/sifcoin-code.zip/download

i compiled miner and wallet, but not sure is optimized for x64
minerd http://rghost.ru/47044682
wallet new http://rghost.ru/47044633

sifcoin.conf

Code:

rpcuser=123
rpcpassword=1234567890
server=1
rpcallowip=*

Code:

minerd --url http://127.0.0.1:8372 --userpass 123:1234567890 -t 4

great work  may I suggest you make an official announcement in the forums so people dont miss it

[ig0tik3d]

i only compile source ))
Sources have been posted by creator of this coin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.msg2588510#msg2588510, he speak, version of cpu miner is not beta is a deep alpha..)) and you can use miner for your own risk))

[SpaceCadet]

i only compile source ))
Sources have been posted by creator of this coin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.msg2588510#msg2588510, he speak, version of cpu miner is not beta is a deep alpha..)) and you can use miner for your own risk))

Once again my pyccкий is not very good   How does sic_new differ from what is posted on sourceforge (besides being much smaller)?  I noticed some small differences in the gui, but the version info is the same.  Not a complaint, just an observation.  I assume that minerd is included in the sourceforge version, just hidden behind the scenes since coin gets generated with just it running.

I REALLY like the idea behind this coin, and I understand that it takes some time to iron out the wrinkles when you don't just copy and paste to make a 'me-too' coin.  I just wish my pyccкий was better so I could get more from the original link!

Cheers!

[Storan]

Very minor differences from the base version.
lightweight rpc-call getwork2, and checkpoint on the 2000 block number (protection against alternative chain starting from scratch from an attacker).
minerd - modification cpu-miner by Jeff Garzik the modified hash functions and getwork2. The algorithm calculating hashes, really the same as in the qt-client used (C-library) sphlib v3.0

[Storan]

Number of 1990 blocks reached! Seems like total hashrate slowed down, so generating speed is near to 250 coins per day, maybe a little bit more.

It has - I mined about 6 coin in the first 24 -30 hours, but the next 24 hours I only mined 1 on the same machine/config.  Diff shot up and luck was down  

Now it makes me wish I had sprung for the faster cpu

BTW: does the windows .exe use all available processing extensions available in today's cpus (like SSE3)?  That's more a function of the compiler settings than the source code.  Would a 64-bit version buy much in terms of performance?  If the operations are mostly 32-bit int then probably not (I suppose I could look at the source to get a clue on that)...

1. This is my logical mistake. Turning on the total correction blocks found in comparison with the calculated from the start of the system. So the current difficulty is too high - 2100 blocks is the estimated week+, and was a little less than four days.

2. 64-bit should be faster. At least one hash function skein, designed for 64-bit systems. Need a check, but the problem is that mingw32 - a compiler 32-bit exe.

[ig0tik3d]

2. 64-bit should be faster. At least one hash function skein, designed for 64-bit systems. Need a check, but the problem is that mingw32 - a compiler 32-bit exe.

Detailed Windows build instructions, using MinGW (64-bit):
   Install MinGW and the MSYS Developer Tool Kit (http://www.mingw.org/)
      * Choose C, C++ and MSys on install and select to have it update its libraries
      * Install into C:\MinGW
      * Add C:\MinGW\bin and c:\MinGW\msys\1.0 to your path
   Download MinGW64 from http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/Toolchains%20targetting%20Win64/Automated%20Builds/
      * Choose mingw-w64-bin_i686-mingw_20111220.zip
      * Extract ZIP to C:\MinGW64
      * Add C:\MinGW64\bin to your path before C:\MinGW\bin
   Install libcurl devel (http://curl.haxx.se/download.html)
      * download curl-7.30.0.tar.gz from http://curl.haxx.se/download.html and put it in C:\deps\
      * launch an MSYS shell and enter the following commands (the configure step will take a long time!)
         cd /c/deps
         tar -xvzf curl-7.30.0.tar.gz
         cd curl-7.30.0
         ./configure --host=x86_64-w64-mingw32 –-prefix=/c/mingw64
         make
         make install
         cp /c/deps/curl-7.30.0/docs/libcurl/libcurl.m4 /c/mingw/share/aclocal/libcurl.m4
   Install pthreads
      * download pthreads-20100604.zip from http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/External%20binary%20packages%20%28Win64%20hosted%29/pthreads/ and put it in C:\deps\
      * unzip the file to c:\deps\
      * In the mingw64 subdirectory is pthreads-w64.zip - extract the contents to C:\MinGW64
   In the MSYS shell, navigate to the CPUminer source code direcctory
      * You will likely get higher hashrates by forcing the compiler to build the executable for your
        specific CPU architecture.  This is done by adding "-march=<value>" into the CFLAGS.  Those
        values can be found at http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html
           common choices for intel are : core2, corei7, corei7-avx
           common choices for AMD are : athlon-fx
      * Execute the following (replacing the value of -march with the value for your CPU type)
         ./autogen.sh
         ./configure --host=x86_64-w64-mingw32 CFLAGS="-O3 -march=core2 -DCPU_X86_FORCE_INTRINSICS"
         make
   Strip minerd.exe
      * In a command prompt, in the compilation directory, execute the following
         x86_64-w64-mingw32-strip minerd.exe
   Combine the executables with the dependencies
      * copy minerd.exe, C:\MinGW64\bin\libcurl-4.dll, and C:\MinGW64\bin\pthreadGC2-w64.dll to the same directory

[maxsolnc]

Any news from developers/big miners/exchanges?

[SpaceCadet]

1. This is my logical mistake. Turning on the total correction blocks found in comparison with the calculated from the start of the system. So the current difficulty is too high - 2100 blocks is the estimated week+, and was a little less than four days.

Any easy way to reduce the diff or to re-scale how it increases?

My luck has been better the last two days though.  Not bad for a cpu-only coin!

Cheers!

Update 2013-7-4:
The diff is down some and my coin gen rate is up.  

The is a lot of activity on the Russian version of this thread. It would be great if someone could post some of the highlights and announcements from there to here (I'm impressed with how many on that thread are fluently multilingual!)

[FuzzyBear]

7iN9tZvkgPmrKD4ddTQrtpr8DaYB8wt6ch

any one fancy sending a miner with 0 coins their first??

many thanks

[testz]

7iN9tZvkgPmrKD4ddTQrtpr8DaYB8wt6ch

any one fancy sending a miner with 0 coins their first??

many thanks

Sent 1 SIC, enjoy 

[mill0601]

we need an exchange

[mill0601]

wow the network is going strong. This is one of those coins that are going to come from behind.

[lsd225]

addnode=68.81.64.95  in case you are one of the few like me fooling with this one

Mining close to two days , note first blocks were 1.0315 now up to 1.0501

Just for thought after reading how difficulty increases
extrapolating the last two days (which is a very small data set on a coin with a
very short history) to see where it can go....

501-315= 186 x 365 then divided by 2 since i am running 48 hours not 24
means this could ramp up really fast,  3.395 . plus the 1 for the block would mean 4.395
is an estimated block award in one year. 

Obviously the difficulty could increase faster or slower and 2 days worth of data is hardly anything
you can make long term predictions on but since this is a cpu only mined coin there are a lot of
cpu's out there. 

Somehow I find it a long shot all those cpu's will find and mine this coin but one never knows.

Obviously the foundation of why we are all here is bitcoin (also litecoin for me and some others) and no one should deny they deserves the focus. 

While we mine those in pools and watch the difficulty shooting up in both it is nice to have a few extras like one and prime coin to run in the background.  In closing I will say reading the Russian thread for this coin in google translate was something that I found very entertaining. 

[SpaceCadet]

Ok - now that I have all these SIC, is there an exchange or other place to use them? 

Hopefully someplace that's not just in Cyrillic

[testz]

How we have a clone? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260679.0

[com911]

How we have a clone? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260679.0

Yes, Quark has much better promotion.

[SpaceCadet]

How we have a clone? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260679.0

Yes, Quark has much better promotion.

It's almost as if the SIC dev wants to keep it a secret!  No exchanges that I can find carry SIC and it's hardly even mentioned any where except in passing.  I finally find a coin that my 'background' machines can mine efficiently, but there is no place to use them!  Maybe it's time to give Quark a try if it's based on SIC...

[mill0601]

How we have a clone? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260679.0

Yes, Quark has much better promotion.

It's almost as if the SIC dev wants to keep it a secret!  No exchanges that I can find carry SIC and it's hardly even mentioned any where except in passing.  I finally find a coin that my 'background' machines can mine efficiently, but there is no place to use them!  Maybe it's time to give Quark a try if it's based on SIC...

Dont give up on SIC now it's these coins that hide in the background for months that seem to do really well.

[SpaceCadet]

How we have a clone? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260679.0

Yes, Quark has much better promotion.

It's almost as if the SIC dev wants to keep it a secret!  No exchanges that I can find carry SIC and it's hardly even mentioned any where except in passing.  I finally find a coin that my 'background' machines can mine efficiently, but there is no place to use them!  Maybe it's time to give Quark a try if it's based on SIC...

Dont give up on SIC now it's these coins that hide in the background for months that seem to do really well.

At least the trolls leave it alone 

[Hydroponica]

Need node for russian coin

[SpaceCadet]

Is this coin still alive?  There is still no place to use it or exchange it!  I have almost 200 SIC I'd like to do something with, though I'd be willing to hold it if I knew it was still a viable coin...

[endlessskill]

7jAuSyi2RfAC2BUvxNZe1gRLwQJZVM5gyg
Donate please! Many thanks!

[robolove]

Does anybody know how to compile the custom sif-cpuminer on Ubuntu? There is no

Code:

autogen.sh

included. After

Code:

wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/sifcoin/files/cpuminer-1.0.2.zip
unzip cpuminer-1.0.2.zip
cd cpuminer-1.0.2
./configure CFLAGS="-O3"
make

I get the following error:

Code:

cpu-miner.c: In function "parse_arg":
cpu-miner.c:781:3: warning: passing argument 2 of "json_load_file" makes integer from pointer without a cast [enabled by default]
In file included from cpu-miner.c:26:0:
/usr/include/jansson.h:241:9: note: expected "size_t" but argument is of type "struct json_error_t *"
cpu-miner.c:781:3: error: too few arguments to function "json_load_file"
In file included from cpu-miner.c:26:0:
/usr/include/jansson.h:241:9: note: declared here
make[2]: *** [minerd-cpu-miner.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/cpuminer-1.0.2'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/cpuminer-1.0.2'
make: *** [all] Error 2

Any help appreciated. Please be as detailed as possible, as I'm no Linux guru. Thanks.

[Spoetnik]

what a dumb coin.
now how do i mine it ?
reserved..

[sumantso]

Any donations please 7jsPKCuoZ6Q1KJ5BjnsdKLrQoHZBhbpjAp
Thanks.

[robolove]

what a dumb coin.
now how do i mine it ?
reserved..

On the contrary, I think this one has a bright future, even if its promotion - especially in English - has been virtually nonexistent.

You can mine it in Windows by downloading the client in the OP, opening up the console windows and type "setgenerate true -1".

Now, if anybody could enlighten us how to get this working using an Ubuntu shell, I'd be most grateful.

[sumantso]

Can't connect. Working nodes please.

[com911]

Can't connect. Working nodes please.

addnode=95.58.166.224
addnode=206.248.191.155
addnode=85.173.199.226

[robolove]

Selling 100 SIC. PM me your bids in LTC or BTC.

[awoland]

addnode=89.254.233.248
addnode=178.32.218.153
addnode=217.25.223.37
addnode=95.58.175.26
addnode=178.33.22.10
addnode=90.0.121.179

[MaGNeT]

On the "Which coin would you like to see on PhenixEx?" POLL, these are the new coins you can vote for!

[SIC] - SIFCoin
[BFC] - ButterflyCoin
[BAC] - BaseCoin
[MPL] - Maples
[cD] - CryptoDollar

Did you vote for your favorite coin(s) already?

[com911]

On the "Which coin would you like to see on PhenixEx?" POLL, these are the new coins you can vote for!

[SIC] - SIFCoin
[BFC] - ButterflyCoin
[BAC] - BaseCoin
[MPL] - Maples
[cD] - CryptoDollar

Did you vote for your favorite coin(s) already?

Thanks MaGNeT

[mill0601]

I think sifcoin should be on an exchange

[cinnamon_carter]

I think this coin has a lot of potential and have been watching it for quite a while.
I guess i am in a minority opinion. Coins that do not get traded on an exchange are overlooked since the motivation of most people seems to be driven by value now and not the bigger long term picture.

[Balthazar]

Just sent a pair addition request to BTC-e, so maybe they'll add this. Will see...

[awoland]

addnode 198.211.117.175 add

[lsd225]

still watching this coin i notice difficulty is up higher , maybe than ever before

[in100]

still watching this coin i notice difficulty is up higher , maybe than ever before

New optimized miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.msg4350733#msg4350733

Wallet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.msg3115465#msg3115465
sic_new.zip http://yadi.sk/d/jlkk-JrC8yoxu

[ig0tik3d]

beta pool https://95.85.46.230/
 for sifcoin
miner for pool https://mega.co.nz/#!rdJQxLIA!RFYQRA3Mpx2dtL_wW8JLzy7q9sorvzlTukB7vVdtW8M
start example

Code:

minerd64_pool -a sif -o stratum+tcp://95.85.46.230:7777 -u workername -p workerpass

[ocminer]

Step by step guide here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404215.0

[DeskCoder]

So how do we get this into an Exchange?  I want to know how much a Sifcoin costs.

[directedbit]

I'm mining this coin - the reward being a factor of the difficulty means not many have been created. Its also a good hedge against any adverse deflationary effects most other coins are exposed to.

[DeskCoder]

I've been trying to build the sifcoin source ... without much luck.  I got the bitcoind exe to build on my mac, but I can't get the wallet to build on my mac.  I can't get anything to build on Windows ... can't get the dependencies to compile.  I also tried merging bitcoin 0.8.6 with the sifcoin source, but getting some build errors in the LevelDb code ...

Since I've got the bitcoind exe built, I plan on building a block explorer, and maybe an API. 

Anyone know how to build the source, can help me out?  Anyone else working on advancing sifcoin, or should I give up?

[com911]

I've been trying to build the sifcoin source ... without much luck.  I got the bitcoind exe to build on my mac, but I can't get the wallet to build on my mac.  I can't get anything to build on Windows ... can't get the dependencies to compile.  I also tried merging bitcoin 0.8.6 with the sifcoin source, but getting some build errors in the LevelDb code ...

Since I've got the bitcoind exe built, I plan on building a block explorer, and maybe an API.  

Anyone know how to build the source, can help me out?  Anyone else working on advancing sifcoin, or should I give up?

Russian thread is very active. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.0
Balthazar is going to bring hardfork/relaunch of SIC soon. /already mined SIC coins should remain after hardfork/

[Void_80]

@DeskCoder

Did You tried to build on Linux ?
I built SIC from sources almost painlessly under Linux,
we are pretty small community, and likely/maybe nobody
 got it done on Mac...so, You unlikely will get help with it.
Also , You should try your luck with unchanged sources from
 Github...not with some merge SIC+BTC , made by You...

[DeskCoder]

@DeskCoder

Did You tried to build on Linux ?
I built SIC from sources almost painlessly under Linux,
we are pretty small community, and likely/maybe nobody
 got it done on Mac...so, You unlikely will get help with it.
Also , You should try your luck with unchanged sources from
 Github...not with some merge SIC+BTC , made by You...

Haven't tried on Linux, will try tonight.  And I was trying the unchanged source, but since it wasn't working (and the only instructions I could find for creating the qt app was for Bitcoin 0.8.6), I tried the merge to see if that would build.

[Void_80]

under Linux it works for me like this :

1) cd /dir/with/sifcoin
2) qmake bitcoin-qt.pro
3) make

On unchanged sources

[bathrobehero]

No active nodes.

Edit: nevermind, these worked:
addnode 95.85.45.65:8373 add
addnode 212.98.191.212:8373 add

[bathrobehero]

"difficulty" : 508.59308212,

...and everything's quiet.

[Void_80]

crowd discuss development of SIC 2.0 in russian thread
here you can see only some double postings for those , who don't speak russian...

[bathrobehero]

crowd discuss development of SIC 2.0 in russian thread
here you can see only some double postings for those , who don't speak russian...

If you mean this thread, it's pretty silent lately as well, comapred to the difficulty.

[Void_80]

All will be ok ...someday

[cinnamon_carter]

to me this coin belongs in the hall of fame,


the father of quark and all most other clones

the original multi hash coin

I mine some every week !!

And yes difficulty does go up and down !!

"difficulty" : 508.59308212,

...and everything's quiet.

[cinnamon_carter]

See this post , I am going to try to compile it now  , other say it works and it is a work of art , kudos to the developers of the gpu  sph miner

SIF now supported https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.msg6030812#msg6030812

[peterlustig]

I always wondered why this coin never took off, seeing how well QRK did. Also wtf is this coin not on an exchange?  
The working GPU miner surely could change that. 

[cinnamon_carter]

Checked it over the past weekend and tonight , actually difficulty seems to be dropping .....

I think the discussions on the russian thread of sic 2 and if it will or will not allow the private keys of this coin to be imported is something they seem to be up in the air about.     

Sic should be carried by every exchange just out of respect !!

Without it there would be no quark and no (insert hundreds of coins here not just quark clones)

[cinnamon_carter]

note, although i have been very busy with other projects I am still keeping an eye on this coin and try to spend a day or two a week mining it,  difficulty has been pretty steady, healthy blockchain, what are the exchanges waiting for  ??\

still exchange or no exchange, without this coin and it's brilliant design & groundbreaking mash up of algorithms we never would have seen many of the most popular non sha 256 d or scrypt 1024 coins now.....   

[testz]

Coin added to https://sharexcoin.com/votings
Please vote!
 

[mill0601]

voted

[Kryon]

do you know some fork of Sif with the same or close formula?

[cinnamon_carter]

there is discussion on the Russian thread of creation of a sif 2 which will involve proof of stake,

for now only sif 1

all first generation multi round algo coins are forks of sif

including quark, secure dozens of others, 

still other coins 'borrowed' some things from the source,

i asked on the Russian board if they could at least update the source with a checkpoint,

they told me basically not to be worried about it, and what I said above, 

a very active but laid back thread, 

i had to use google translate to post there so not sure how things got through on the other end...

still i have updated and checkpointed the coin privately so for now , I have a copy of the blockchain and can restart it if anything were to happen.

do you know some fork of Sif with the same or close formula?

[digitalindustry]

note, although i have been very busy with other projects I am still keeping an eye on this coin and try to spend a day or two a week mining it,  difficulty has been pretty steady, healthy blockchain, what are the exchanges waiting for  ??\

still exchange or no exchange, without this coin and it's brilliant design & groundbreaking mash up of algorithms we never would have seen many of the most popular non sha 256 d or scrypt 1024 coins now.....   

It should be on Qex.la indeed - i'll try to email them.

[sert]

Please, vote +1 https://cryptoine.com/voting#SIC

[cinnamon_carter]

difficulty was down last week , creeping back up this week, simple inflation coin is far from dead, plenty of connections,  I just wish the official developers would checkpoint the client.

[RamiroGomare]

Hello


The urgent need is block explorer!

[cinnamon_carter]

one can certainly be made but the resources, i.e. server /hosting costs are something i cannot take on at this time

if anyone else wants to host it i can most likely code it this weekend

Hello


The urgent need is block explorer!

[com911]

Please vote for SIC on "HitBTC" exchange https://hitbtc.com/vote

[sert]

Please vote for SIC https://www.swisscex.com/voting

[cinnamon_carter]

Block crawler on my to do list, however, not in top slot.

[cinnamon_carter]

note

block crawler delayed at least a week, got held up on personal non coin world related thiings this past week and am trying to catch up on some coin and other technology proecects i am working on , 

along with all the other charms life brings us

so sorry for delays,


if anyone wants to jump in front of me and do it i suggest posting to the abe github for advice explaining how the coin is similar to quark and that quark and the others are actually derived from this,  should be a basic re aranngment from there,

honestly i may be able to just pull it off,  not sure yet,  in the mean time difficulty is higher than i have seen it in months, 


i have an i5 i mine this with twice a week usually 24-48 hours a shot,  not one block until this morning,

guess i will have to see what our russian friends are doing on their thread,  sorry for no progress

[cinnamon_carter]

i apologize , i got sick a few weeks back and then purchased a mac to learn to make mac wallets for a few other projects I am working on and the abe block crawler for this got put on hold.   Still on my list of things to do , difficulty (as i remarked on the russian thread earlier this week) remains low, lower than it has been in months, excellent opportunity for cpu mining --- the only cpu coins i mine now are riecoin , sic, and a new high n factor scrypt variant called "imacredit" which may not have even been announced in these forums (picked it up on cryptocointalk)  both of those other coins are on exchanges poliinex and others,  I know everyone wants to see SIC get to an exchange but I think it would have happened by now if it was going to .

I will continue to cpu mine it a few times a week and run a node for now.  Have 13 connections here in the united states.

SIC is obviously flying under the radar since if people were mining with a gpu I think the difficulty would have stayed up or at least level.

I went from hitting zero or 1 blocks in a 48 hour time frame a few weeks ago to hitting nearly a dozen in about the same amount of time this week..


If bitcoin is really outlawed in russia I think it possible since SIC started there SIC could still be a 'sleeper'  .....  but thats just me.

[lsd225]

I am still mining & hitting a lot of blocks

[SRBOOTH]

Please post good addnodes......unable to connect to block source.....I am currently using....

addnode=206.248.191.155
addnode=89.254.233.248
addnode=178.32.218.153
addnode=217.25.223.37
addnode=95.58.175.26
addnode=178.33.22.10
addnode=90.0.121.179
addnode=95.85.45.65:8373
addnode=212.98.191.212:8373

[cinnamon_carter]

Difficulty is rising again and rather fast ---- if you cannot connect something must be wrong --- make sure you are using a UPnP enabled wallet and are not behind a firewall or that your firewall is not conflicting with the wallet.  On my to do list since the people who launched this coin have never checkpointed it or applied a few other upgrades when I have time I will work off my forked repo and release the updates myself. Should happen within the next few weeks.   I am tied up with a few other things right now and studying the impact of the most recent open ssl issue.

NOTE --- I am not attempting in any way to take over the coin or the project.  I have no desire to do so.  This coin was started by some talented developers in Russia and the Russian language thread is quite active.  I just will be updating a few simple security items when I have time that I feel are 'necessary'. 

[Void_80]

actualy u can "takeover" SIC development.
we dont mind, coz we perhaps "lost" both of former devs...
just plz, announce it in russian thread too in plain english.
goggled translations are so ugly  
those russians of SIC supporting crowd have good command of english.

[cinnamon_carter]

I cannot commit to being the developer of this coin due to other responsibilities however it has been well over a year since it's release and I did want to update it since no one else has.  I made a new repo based on the old one so you can see exactly (how few) changes were made. The larger change is I compiled a wallet with open ssl 1.0.1j the most recent version.  There are a few other minor upgrades I threw in including a fix to rpc console when not running in server mode, changed bitcoin to sicoin on qr box, checkpoint and updates to pro file and mingw and linux build files from the older outdated ones if you are building yourself.


The wallet is here https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz8503hoyr74SWtZVFFFMFlkSXM/view?usp=sharing

The exact changes I made to source are here https://github.com/cinnamoncoin/https---github.com-cinnamoncoin-sifcoin/commit/02d053566bbbb0dea2d982a299943f33aa0802e1  (if this link does not work go to my github here and find the correct repo https://github.com/cinnamoncoin?tab=repositories  )  

Here is my repo of Simple Inflation Coin   https://github.com/cinnamoncoin/https---github.com-cinnamoncoin-sifcoin
                                                      

If you are having issues connecting here are some recently active nodes. I regularly get 10+ connections but I am not running a node 24 /7.

addnode=95.85.45.65:8373
addnode=198.211.117.175:8373
addnode=93.81.218.247:53612
addnode=89.254.229.70:57217
addnode=89.254.251.12:8373
addnode=178.90.217.240:28777


Again this is an 'unofficial' release, non mandatory --- but recommended since the shellshock and poodle issues of open ssl have come along since the original release. Finally to me a checkpointed coin is a lot safer then one not checkpointed ever......


Remember this english thread is not the real home of this coin that would be the russian thread located here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.0


I cannot promise any future updates but I always respected and liked this coin.  

Cpu miner https://github.com/ig0tik3d/sifcoin-miner

Gpu miner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.msg6030812#msg6030812

Enjoy  


EDIT DECEMBER 20 ---- ADDITIONAL CHANGES /UPDATES WERE MADE AND THE REPOSITORY WAS RENAMED

[com911]

Good news. I'm glad SIC is still alive. We are certainly need an active developer to reveal all potential of this undeservedly forgotten coin.
I'm sure, no one will mind about cinnamon_carter should takeover the development.

[SpaceCadet]

Is there any place that you can use/exchange this coin?  I know there has been lots of voting, but I haven't seen any results. What good is it to accumulate a coin that can't be used anywhere, no matter how great it is?

[com911]

Is there any place that you can use/exchange this coin?  I know there has been lots of voting, but I haven't seen any results. What good is it to accumulate a coin that can't be used anywhere, no matter how great it is?

The coin is fine, but we stiil need pool and block explorer for this...

[cinnamon_carter]

well, look back in history a bit,
people collected bitcoin when it was worth nothing.....


someone i know told me when it hit $13 it was like hitting the lottery !!

simple inflation coin has only been running a little over a year now, and people have been mining all along

personally i think it a crime it is not traded on every major exchange

but no one cares what i think ......

look at it as an experiment , nothing more,

likely outcome will be no big 'cash out' 

you can tell if you really are into cryptocurrency , bitcoin, or any coin if you are willing to spend time mining it , maintaining it, or even posting about it when everyone else is obsessed with VALUE

true value today in alt coins is mostly created by the developers buying thier own coins back or hyping things up via one method or another or more than one.... and duping others to buying the coins....sad but true.....

simple inflation coin has none of this baggage,  it is what is is - nothing more

the russian devs who put it together really did well, 

the code is not perfect and i will not tell you multiple rounds of hashing are more efficient or even more secure from a cryptography standpoint than a single proof of work algorithm,   

they are less efficient and less secure,  this is a proven fact from several academic papers......

still i learned a lot from the code these guys made, and if they are too busy now or whatever to maintain it, i felt the least i could do out of respect for what SIC made possible on the scene was just do a small update,   and now im probably going to run a node so we have some north american coverage......


here is a linux build if anyone wants one based on my fork of the code ----  generally i recommend everyone compile linux daemons themself however someone got in touch with me and said they were having trouble building it so here she is compiled on ubuntu -- its called bitcoind since they never changed the name but
when you run it create a .sifcoin directory in root and put your sifcoin.conf there

run from command line

sudo ./sifcoind -daemon

commands similar to rpc console  i.e.

sudo ./sifcoind -getinfo




https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz8503hoyr74V2hjc3BNdERNWWc/view?usp=sharing

Is there any place that you can use/exchange this coin?  I know there has been lots of voting, but I haven't seen any results. What good is it to accumulate a coin that can't be used anywhere, no matter how great it is?

[bathrobehero]

well, look back in history a bit,
people collected bitcoin when it was worth nothing.....

Well, if you consider how many coins there are now, bitcoin almost had it easy. There are so many coins exist today, that even great coins with nice features getting lost and forgotten. However, this is crypto so anything can happen.

[cinnamon_carter]

difficulty slightly down


here are the nodes my full node is connected to now


sudo ./bitcoind getpeerinfo
[
    {
        "addr" : "198.211.117.175:8373",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160436,
        "bytessent" : 5720439,
        "bytesrecv" : 51059065,
        "conntime" : 1416031431,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.3/",
        "inbound" : false,
        "startingheight" : 146695,
        "banscore" : 0,
        "syncnode" : true
    },
    {
        "addr" : "83.136.243.162:50092",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160191,
        "bytessent" : 90137,
        "bytesrecv" : 181051,
        "conntime" : 1416032043,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 146697,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "212.98.191.170:50504",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160192,
        "bytessent" : 87021,
        "bytesrecv" : 162920,
        "conntime" : 1416032473,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 146698,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "69.253.31.197:49192",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160193,
        "bytessent" : 90453,
        "bytesrecv" : 207426,
        "conntime" : 1416043309,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.3/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 146744,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "176.51.48.131:10374",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160191,
        "bytessent" : 91391,
        "bytesrecv" : 69066,
        "conntime" : 1416061873,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 146806,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "5.9.56.229:51595",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160436,
        "bytessent" : 227510,
        "bytesrecv" : 197235,
        "conntime" : 1416067120,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.6/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 146825,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "89.254.195.93:49756",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160191,
        "bytessent" : 127452,
        "bytesrecv" : 105366,
        "conntime" : 1416090139,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.3/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 146900,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "89.254.196.52:1316",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160190,
        "bytessent" : 109134,
        "bytesrecv" : 84473,
        "conntime" : 1416090181,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 146900,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "69.253.31.197:55648",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160436,
        "bytessent" : 63338,
        "bytesrecv" : 124695,
        "conntime" : 1416101193,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.3/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 146943,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "46.159.104.16:56861",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160191,
        "bytessent" : 52780,
        "bytesrecv" : 32420,
        "conntime" : 1416125345,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 147013,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "128.204.24.52:50008",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160434,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160436,
        "bytessent" : 46773,
        "bytesrecv" : 33243,
        "conntime" : 1416137539,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.3/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 147063,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "95.58.187.221:15102",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160191,
        "bytessent" : 50082,
        "bytesrecv" : 13320,
        "conntime" : 1416143172,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 147073,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "83.104.61.47:26287",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1416160436,
        "lastrecv" : 1416160436,
        "bytessent" : 53063,
        "bytesrecv" : 27906,
        "conntime" : 1416148988,
        "version" : 70001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.6/",
        "inbound" : true,
        "startingheight" : 147098,
        "banscore" : 0
    }

[cinnamon_carter]

well well well....... difficulty now spiking up fast --- 

[cinnamon_carter]

difficulty holding --- network pretty stable

[cinnamon_carter]

difficulty still up and down but never dropping too low,

[gjhiggins]

difficulty still up and down but never dropping too low,

At one point, I hacked up a Python sifcoin-hash module (https://github.com/gjhiggins/sifcoin-hash) to get a Sifcoin version of Abe up and running:

Code:

datadir = [
    {
        "dirname": "/home/gjh/.sifcoin",
        "chain": "SiFcoin",
        "policy": "SiFChain",
        "code3": "SIC",
        "address_version": "\u0010",
        "script_addr_vers": "\u0005",
        "magic": "\u00f2\u00d5\u00d3\u00d8",
        "loader": "blkfile",    # See the comments for default-loader below.
        "conf": "sifcoin.conf"
    }
]

The Abe.Chain.SiFChain subclass is quite straightforward ...

Code:

# Copyright(C) 2014 by Abe developers.

# This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU Affero General Public License as
# published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the
# License, or (at your option) any later version.
# 
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
# WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
# Affero General Public License for more details.
# 
# You should have received a copy of the GNU Affero General Public
# License along with this program.  If not, see
# <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl.html>.

from . import BaseChain

class SiFChain(BaseChain):
    """
    A blockchain that hashes block headers using the SiF algorithm.
    The current implementation requires the sifcoin_hash module.
    """

    def block_header_hash(chain, header):
        import sifcoin_hash
        return sifcoin_hash.getPoWHash(header)

(I continue to run a SiFcoin node but I've migrated away from Abe in favour of ACME, my own (as yet unfinished) lightweight RPC-based blockchain explorer implemented in Python: https://minkiz.co/acme/sic --- it's basic and atm, barely better than the raw JSON but I have plans for it).

Also, fwiw: on a whim, I transcribed the Sifcoin code back into the full commit history, added getnetworkhashps to the API and squeezed a “diffplot” chart on to the overview page:

https://github.com/gjhiggins/sifcoin/commits/diffplot


Cheers

Graham

[sert]

https://cryptoine.com/voting

SIC (Sifcoin)    No block explorer, weak/low hashrate network, etc

cinnamon_carter, please write him, have block explorer, hashrate stable. My english is bad, so I beg you.

[cinnamon_carter]

nice work, i will have to check this out !!

would urge you if you get time to do a git pull to add support to official abe on github

https://github.com/bitcoin-abe/bitcoin-abe

jtobey regularly adds different algorithms....

difficulty still up and down but never dropping too low,

At one point, I hacked up a Python sifcoin-hash module (https://github.com/gjhiggins/sifcoin-hash) to get a Sifcoin version of Abe up and running:

Code:

datadir = [
    {
        "dirname": "/home/gjh/.sifcoin",
        "chain": "SiFcoin",
        "policy": "SiFChain",
        "code3": "SIC",
        "address_version": "\u0010",
        "script_addr_vers": "\u0005",
        "magic": "\u00f2\u00d5\u00d3\u00d8",
        "loader": "blkfile",    # See the comments for default-loader below.
        "conf": "sifcoin.conf"
    }
]

The Abe.Chain.SiFChain subclass is quite straightforward ...

Code:

# Copyright(C) 2014 by Abe developers.

# This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU Affero General Public License as
# published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the
# License, or (at your option) any later version.
# 
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
# WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
# Affero General Public License for more details.
# 
# You should have received a copy of the GNU Affero General Public
# License along with this program.  If not, see
# <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl.html>.

from . import BaseChain

class SiFChain(BaseChain):
    """
    A blockchain that hashes block headers using the SiF algorithm.
    The current implementation requires the sifcoin_hash module.
    """

    def block_header_hash(chain, header):
        import sifcoin_hash
        return sifcoin_hash.getPoWHash(header)

(I continue to run a SiFcoin node but I've migrated away from Abe in favour of ACME, my own (as yet unfinished) lightweight RPC-based blockchain explorer implemented in Python: https://minkiz.co/acme/sic --- it's basic and atm, barely better than the raw JSON but I have plans for it).

Also, fwiw: on a whim, I transcribed the Sifcoin code back into the full commit history, added getnetworkhashps to the API and squeezed a “diffplot” chart on to the overview page:

https://github.com/gjhiggins/sifcoin/commits/diffplot


Cheers

Graham

[gjhiggins]

a git pull to add support to official abe on github
...
jtobey regularly adds different algorithms....

Regrettably ...

I no longer work with Abe

Cheers

Graham

[cinnamon_carter]

i understand and respect that, good luck with your own python block crawler

eventually when i have time i may add it to abe ,

looks like you have all the right things in there,

you and I appear to be the only two people doing any development (even part time) work on this coin....

ironic

a git pull to add support to official abe on github
...
jtobey regularly adds different algorithms....

Regrettably ...

I no longer work with Abe

Cheers

Graham

[gjhiggins]

eventually when i have time i may add it to abe

Okay, I can do that --- but for a PR to make any sense, sifcoin-hash needs to be available to install from PyPi (which it now is).

TBH, I really doubt whether the PR will ever get merged because it proposes to add a Chain subclass with a known unmanaged dependency (i.e. sifcoin-hash) for which the requirement kicks at runtime and it's a showstopper for what would be reasonably expected to be a supported configuration.

I think this is why most algo-specific Abe variants inhabit their own fork, it allows the maintainer to include the specific supported hash function as a subdir, thus enabling the dependency to be advertised and imposed at install time.

Whatever, the edited bitcoin-abe fork is https://github.com/gjhiggins/bitcoin-abe, PR is https://github.com/bitcoin-abe/bitcoin-abe/pull/155

The supporting sifcoin-hash module is https://github.com/gjhiggins/sifcoin-hash and on PyPi: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sifcoin-hash/1.0.2

you and I appear to be the only two people doing any development (even part time) work on this coin....

Sifcoin's innovation of using a folklore hash combiner makes it one of the more notable members of the altcoin technical engineering heritage.


Cheers

Graham

[cinnamon_carter]

Thanks Graham

[cinnamon_carter]

OK a few additional minor updates ---

First I renamed my repository to the name of the coin (I was badly in need of sleep when I did the last update)

It is on github here https://github.com/cinnamoncoin/sifcoin

Changes are outlined here, basically a few cosmetics and I updated the version of level db.

https://github.com/cinnamoncoin/sifcoin/commits/master

The windows-qt release is here on github https://github.com/cinnamoncoin/sifcoin/releases

Finally I contacted Coins-e to see if they would add Simple Inflation Coin to Voting to be added to the exchange.

(Who knows maybe this weekend or sometime soon I will use Graham's contributions to make a full block crawler)

[com911]

Can't connect. Any working nodes? 

[gjhiggins]

Can't connect. Any working nodes? 

Code:

107.170.219.99:53826
128.204.24.52:60001
178.44.105.129:1421
178.90.195.228:19646
212.98.191.170:64584
31.181.247.251:55793
5.9.56.229:33463
69.253.31.197:56409
69.253.31.197:61251
83.136.243.162:58155
85.10.194.50:8373
94.241.218.78:59770

Cheers

Graham

[cinnamon_carter]

did not get very far with abe.... it runs and all but not able to read anything


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Abe/DataStore.py", line 2525, in catch_up
    store.catch_up_dir(dircfg)
  File "Abe/DataStore.py", line 2785, in catch_up_dir
    store.import_blkdat(dircfg, ds, blkfile['name'])
  File "Abe/DataStore.py", line 2899, in import_blkdat
    hash = chain.ds_block_header_hash(ds)
  File "Abe/Chain/__init__.py", line 136, in ds_block_header_hash
    ds.input[ds.read_cursor : ds.read_cursor + 80])
  File "Abe/Chain/SiFChain.py", line 29, in block_header_hash
    return sifcoin_hash.getPoWHash(header)
NameError: global name 'sifcoin_hash' is not defined
Abe initialized. 

it's running now on a node I made but returns nothing obviously, i now understnad what Graham meant when he said it may be impossible since difining sifcoin_hash is not so straightforward as in other proof of work coins..... I will think it over if i come up with something clever will let you know....

[gjhiggins]

did not get very far with abe.... it runs and all but not able to read anything
NameError: global name 'sifcoin_hash' is not defined

it's running now on a node I made but returns nothing obviously, i now understnad what Graham meant when he said it may be impossible since difining sifcoin_hash is not so straightforward as in other proof of work coins..... I will think it over if i come up with something clever will let you know....

You musta missed the bit:

The supporting sifcoin-hash module is https://github.com/gjhiggins/sifcoin-hash and on PyPi: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sifcoin-hash/1.0.2

All that's required is:

pip install sifcoin-hash

Abe should then be able to read the Sifcoin blockchain.


Cheers

Graham

[cinnamon_carter]

ok , i only had a few minutes to play with it, going to try a fresh install next time out.... thanks again.... i think i tweaked too many things on this attempt !!!

edit, it now reads the .sifcoin blockchain in my root directory a little bit before throwing all kinds of crazy errors ! !!

[panic]

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Send from 0.1 to 0.5 sic to 7niTHdfKAwB692SvuJ1jjSSXg1SNsny57L and win one of sixteen prizes:

x0.01

x0.4

x0.8

x1.5

x0.1

x0.5

x0.9

x1.8

x0.2

x0.6

x1.1

x2.2

x0.3

x0.7

x1.2

x3.5

Chance to win is 98.8125%.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Winning is sent after the first confirmation of the received transaction.
To determine win amount script uses the first symbol of sha256('txid'+'secret'); (in hexadecimal, '0'=0.01, '1'=0.1, '2'=0.2, ..., 'a'=1.1, 'b'=1.2, 'c'=1.5, 'd'=1.8, 'e'=2.2, 'f'=3.5). The 'secret' changes once a day (00:00 UTC) and is published in my forum sign.
Script accepts only normal transactions made with the reference wallet.
Bets greater than the maximum are returned minus fee 0.0005 sic.
Bets less than the minimum are equated with donations and are non-refundable.
The minimum win is 0.01 sic.
The maximum prize is limited by the size of the pot.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Currently 15 sic in the pot. Donate: 7d2C9EdQ3A3Z2twUWVWerb515zQdKM6yPL, thx.

[cinnamon_carter]

Impressive ! Nice to see some games !!

This weekend coming up i should have time for another go at the abe block crawaler unless someone beats me to it.

It's funny I have been mining this (not from the start) but for quite a while , on and off.

While I am not a fan of 'multi algorithim coins' in general you have to admit Simple Inflation Coin got there first and set the stage for hundreds of other coins , many of which are traded on exchanges all over the world every day.   

Yet the mother who gave birth to them all has just a few of us keeping it alive. 

Honestly I don't mine it 24/7 myself just a day or two at most a week depending on difficulty.....

I thought it was going to take off a few times but not yet. 

Very few people out there will mine a coin they cannot instantly exchange for btc. 

That means anyone mining this is hardcore and in cryptocurrency for what I feel are the best reasons !!

Hi, try your luck in SatoshiSmile xD

Send from 0.1 to 0.5 sic to 7niTHdfKAwB692SvuJ1jjSSXg1SNsny57L and win one of sixteen prizes:

x0.01

x0.4

x0.8

x1.5

x0.1

x0.5

x0.9

x1.8

x0.2

x0.6

x1.1

x2.2

x0.3

x0.7

x1.2

x3.5

Chance to win is 98.8125%.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Winning is sent after the first confirmation of the received transaction.
To determine win amount script uses the first symbol of sha256('txid'+'secret'); (in hexadecimal, '0'=0.01, '1'=0.1, '2'=0.2, ..., 'a'=1.1, 'b'=1.2, 'c'=1.5, 'd'=1.8, 'e'=2.2, 'f'=3.5). The 'secret' changes once a day (00:00 UTC) and is published in my forum sign.
Script accepts only normal transactions made with the reference wallet.
Bets greater than the maximum are returned minus fee 0.0005 sic.
Bets less than the minimum are equated with donations and are non-refundable.
The minimum win is 0.01 sic.
The maximum prize is limited by the size of the pot.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Currently 15 sic in the pot. Donate: 7d2C9EdQ3A3Z2twUWVWerb515zQdKM6yPL, thx.

[cinnamon_carter]

fyi

more discussion about the game on the russian thread....

also difficulty is up sharply well over 350, highest i have seen it in a long time, near an all time high to my memory

edit one difficulty now 376.3

edit two  rising still and fast 388.9 now  , a week ago it was around 240 , the only time I saw this kind of action was when Balthazar made this post to the Russian thread, long ago stating he would ask if the coin could be added to btce ... that was sept 2013

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.msg3236176#msg3236176

[com911]

Any news about Block Chain Explorer? 

[cinnamon_carter]

yea , i got it started but it sadly is not reading the blockchain if i try to use abe

maybe if someone can use Graham's work  ... here
https://github.com/gjhiggins/sifcoin-hash
and here
https://github.com/gjhiggins/altcoin-abe


and gitpull on abe here

https://github.com/bitcoin-abe/bitcoin-abe/pull/155

we could get some fresh ideas

if i get more spare time i can have another go at it

Any news about Block Chain Explorer? 

[Youghoor]

Any news about Block Chain Explorer? 

I think it will take time to setup.

[gjhiggins]

if i get more spare time i can have another go at it

Probably a minor issue. In the interim, I've set up a temporary instance, serving direct off''ve our server:

http://acme.bel-epa.com/chains

Cheers

Graham

[cinnamon_carter]

Excellent ! Thanks Guess I should notify the Russian thread.

if i get more spare time i can have another go at it

Probably a minor issue. In the interim, I've set up a temporary instance, serving direct off''ve our server:

http://acme.bel-epa.com/chains

Cheers

Graham

[gjhiggins]

Probably a minor issue. In the interim, I've set up a temporary instance, serving direct off''ve our server:

http://acme.bel-epa.com/chains

Ach, I got myself trapped in a twisty little maze of redirects*

New transient URL for Sifcoin Abe explorer:

https://minkiz.co/abe/chain/SiFcoin

Cheers

Graham

* or was it a little twisty maze of redirects?

[cinnamon_carter]

A while back someone contacted me and offered to host/mirror block crawler if I was able to make one.

I gave it a shot but never got it to work properly.  Eventually I may have but Graham certainly deserves 100% of the credit.

His code was what I worked from (see earlier in the thred) 

I cannot remember who it was but if you could arrange to host Graham's fine work might be a good idea.

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Unrelated ...........I was on another thread and saw a remark that was praising quark for how 'innnovative' a creation it was ect. ect.....

Others pointed out that was incorrect but I felt if being launched a month later was not proof enough that this commit on github for Quark

https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/commit/1c0961810b65226bf74ba98e7c0a11ada8b7cd32#diff-55e43a5d20bb81f2c06e4ddaee58ae6bR2

Anyone can clearly see in line 2 of the link there quark while certainly different in reward and proof of work was in reality derived from the work of Storan.

In fact just looking a second time here I see the quark dev actually named SIF here line 2 also https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L2   of course not many people read the source code......

[YoBit]

Dear Forum Members!

SifCoin [SIC] is listed on YoBit.net Exchange! ( Twitter: https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/568111367904993280 )

English: https://yobit.net/en/trade/SIC/BTC
Chinese: https://yobit.net/cn/trade/SIC/BTC
Russian: https://yobit.net/ru/trade/SIC/BTC

Our topic on BitcoinTalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914975.0



Logo img: https://yobit.net/i/small_logo.png

[Void_80]

Cool YoBit ! 

[com911]

Code:

I do apologize for the delay, after looking into the coin on the thread currently this coin does not meet the requirements for being added to the exchange. The best way to get added to the voting list is to have a great community following with an active dev. If the thread changes and goes more past 9 pages of comments and more links and logo's appear later down the road we will take a second look.

Sincerely
Mark
Cryptsy.com

So guys, we need an active dev and a logo. 

[sert]

9 pages

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.0
41 pages. Who more?

[cinnamon_carter]

Cryptsy has turned into a lousy crooked exchange anyway.

F them.

They have about 30 coins in maintaince mode
so you can't deposit or withdraw coins but they keep the markets open??

Also this bs about the voting is asking for a bribe , nothing more.

Anyone can get sock puppet accounts to make the page 500 or 1000 long like most of the shit traded on there.

Honestly at one time i liked them.

But no project I have ever been involved with has ever been listed there.

I don't take it personal but the things I work on are honest / not scams and I don't pay bribes.

Recently i bought a bitcoin or so of ix coin since I am kind of helping out with that but really own little of it & you can't mine it anymore.

After several days I tweeted them about it.

No answer. Nothing.   Not being able to withdraw my purchase i had to sell the coins back into the market at a big loss.

Cryptsy no longer cares about customers.

Eventually they will probably get """hacked"""  like other exchanges & just keep all the coins.

They really went downhill.

SIC is a great coin , one of the few 'honestly' run coins around.

[cinnamon_carter]

wow, difficulty now 680 and rising, cpu mining may no longer really be an option ....

strange the attention this is getting


edit one,   now 2 hours later over 710 and rising  , anyone out there want to say ''''' yea I decided to start mining  ''''' lol

[cinnamon_carter]

Unofficial Twitter

@sifcoin

https://twitter.com/sifcoin

[cinnamon_carter]

Not much new going on with Simple Inflation Coin,  the node I am running still has quite a few connections,  dificulty seems cooled off a bit.

Still checking it 1-2x a week as I have time.

In less than 200 blocks looks like sic blockchain will be 200k tall, so it has survived a lot longer than many coins that have had a lot more promotion behind them. This coin had zero promotion. In fact I almost get the feeling the dev's either want it kept quite or maybe they just moved on to other things and figured they would let it run.

Regardless, many popular coins today owe a lot to this coins source code.

[gjhiggins]

Not much new going on with Simple Inflation Coin,  the node I am running still has quite a few connections,  dificulty seems cooled off a bit.

Also see the ACME (RPC-based) summary stats on https://minkiz.co/acme ---

coin & symbol	home base	blockheight	nodes	difficulty	last (UTC)	networkmhashps
SiFcoin (SIC)	http://sifcoin.ru	199823	11	227.623092	2 Hours	15.9255

and the conventional Abe (block-based) SIF explorer: https://minkiz.co/abe/chains

Cheers

Graham

[cinnamon_carter]

i shut down my node, have not checked on sic in a while, obviously some people are still mining it but although for a while i thought it was a sleeper ,  i guess it would have woke up by now if it was ever going to , 


too bad sic never got the credit it deserved,  i learned a lot from study of this source code and am greatful to the creators of this alt coin for that at least,

farewell

[gjhiggins]

i shut down my node, have not checked on sic in a while, obviously some people are still mining it but although for a while i thought it was a sleeper ,  i guess it would have woke up by now if it was ever going to

Thank you for travelling SIFcoin, we hope you had an enjoyable journey.

I see things differently and will be maintaining the Minkiz SIF node and the ACME explorer for the foreseeable future.

Cheers

Graham

[David Latapie]

Not much new going on with Simple Inflation Coin,  the node I am running still has quite a few connections,  dificulty seems cooled off a bit.

Still checking it 1-2x a week as I have time.

In less than 200 blocks looks like sic blockchain will be 200k tall, so it has survived a lot longer than many coins that have had a lot more promotion behind them. This coin had zero promotion. In fact I almost get the feeling the dev's either want it kept quite or maybe they just moved on to other things and figured they would let it run.

Regardless, many popular coins today owe a lot to this coins source code.

I discovered this coin thanks to Ray Patterson's article.

Sifcoin was the first to introduce an idea of subsequent hashing with a few popular hash-functions […] Pioneers do not always get credit for their discoveries: this six-hash algorithm got popular (and acquired a name) in the first Sifcoin fork named Quark.

[cinnamon_carter]

i often wonder if simple inflation coin was made as a beta for quark and the others that followed....

Not much new going on with Simple Inflation Coin,  the node I am running still has quite a few connections,  dificulty seems cooled off a bit.

Still checking it 1-2x a week as I have time.

In less than 200 blocks looks like sic blockchain will be 200k tall, so it has survived a lot longer than many coins that have had a lot more promotion behind them. This coin had zero promotion. In fact I almost get the feeling the dev's either want it kept quite or maybe they just moved on to other things and figured they would let it run.

Regardless, many popular coins today owe a lot to this coins source code.

I discovered this coin thanks to Ray Patterson's article.

Sifcoin was the first to introduce an idea of subsequent hashing with a few popular hash-functions […] Pioneers do not always get credit for their discoveries: this six-hash algorithm got popular (and acquired a name) in the first Sifcoin fork named Quark.

[JanDzban]

Anybody is workin on this project?

[cinnamon_carter]

nodes to try   


  "addr" : "83.136.243.162:59557",
>         "services" : "00000001",
>         "lastsend" : 1463531025,
>         "lastrecv" : 1463531025,
>         "bytessent" : 2427182,
>         "bytesrecv" : 2017792,
>         "conntime" : 1460771883,
>         "version" : 70001,
>         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
>         "inbound" : true,
>         "startingheight" : 295429,
>         "banscore" : 0
>     },
>     {
>         "addr" : "78.46.92.72:35174",
>         "services" : "00000001",
>         "lastsend" : 1463531023,
>         "lastrecv" : 1463531023,
>         "bytessent" : 659072,
>         "bytesrecv" : 153048,
>         "conntime" : 1463080525,
>         "version" : 70001,
>         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.3/",
>         "inbound" : true,
>         "startingheight" : 302066,
>         "banscore" : 0,
>         "syncnode" : true
>     },
>     {
>         "addr" : "176.192.217.150:53270",
>         "services" : "00000001",
>         "lastsend" : 1463531053,
>         "lastrecv" : 1463531022,
>         "bytessent" : 113023,
>         "bytesrecv" : 104849,
>         "conntime" : 1463441567,
>         "version" : 70001,
>         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.3/",
>         "inbound" : true,
>         "startingheight" : 303530,
>         "banscore" : 0
>     },
>     {
>         "addr" : "89.254.216.106:53587",
>         "services" : "00000001",
>         "lastsend" : 1463531023,
>         "lastrecv" : 1463531023,
>         "bytessent" : 93964,
>         "bytesrecv" : 7545,
>         "conntime" : 1463516700,
>         "version" : 70001,
>         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
>         "inbound" : true,
>         "startingheight" : 303828,
>         "banscore" : 10
>     },
>     {
>         "addr" : "89.254.216.106:53586",
>         "services" : "00000001",
>         "lastsend" : 1463531022,
>         "lastrecv" : 1463530935,
>         "bytessent" : 80323,
>         "bytesrecv" : 1123,
>         "conntime" : 1463516700,
>         "version" : 70001,
>         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
>         "inbound" : true,
>         "startingheight" : 303828,
>         "banscore" : 10
>     },
>     {
>         "addr" : "217.9.156.80:52445",
>         "services" : "00000001",
>         "lastsend" : 1463531022,
>         "lastrecv" : 1463530316,
>         "bytessent" : 76634,
>         "bytesrecv" : 534,
>         "conntime" : 1463529602,
>         "version" : 70001,
>         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
>         "inbound" : true,
>         "startingheight" : 303876,
>         "banscore" : 0
>     },
>     {
>         "addr" : "217.9.156.80:25354",
>         "services" : "00000001",
>         "lastsend" : 1463531055,
>         "lastrecv" : 1463531053,
>         "bytessent" : 75231,
>         "bytesrecv" : 229,
>         "conntime" : 1463531052,
>         "version" : 70001,
>         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
>         "inbound" : true,
>         "startingheight" : 303882,
>         "banscore" : 0
>   "addr" : "78.46.92.72:35174",
> >         "services" : "00000001",
> >         "lastsend" : 1463529592,
> >         "lastrecv" : 1463529592,
> >         "bytessent" : 657425,
> >         "bytesrecv" : 152682,
> >         "conntime" : 1463080525,
> >         "version" : 70001,
> >         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.3/",
> >         "inbound" : true,
> >         "startingheight" : 302066,
> >         "banscore" : 0,
> >         "syncnode" : true
> >     },
> >     {
> >         "addr" : "176.192.217.150:53270",
> >         "services" : "00000001",
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> >         "lastrecv" : 1463529592,
> >         "bytessent" : 112602,
> >         "bytesrecv" : 103202,
> >         "conntime" : 1463441567,
> >         "version" : 70001,
> >         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.3/",
> >         "inbound" : true,
> >         "startingheight" : 303530,
> >         "banscore" : 0
> >     },
> >     {
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> >         "services" : "00000001",
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> >         "lastrecv" : 1463529592,
> >         "bytessent" : 92317,
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> >         "conntime" : 1463516700,
> >         "version" : 70001,
> >         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
> >         "inbound" : true,
> >         "startingheight" : 303828,
> >         "banscore" : 10
> >     },
> >     {
> >         "addr" : "89.254.216.106:53586",
> >         "services" : "00000001",
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> >         "lastrecv" : 1463529134,
> >         "bytessent" : 79925,
> >         "bytesrecv" : 1091,
> >         "conntime" : 1463516700,
> >         "version" : 70001,
> >         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
> >         "inbound" : true,
> >         "startingheight" : 303828,
> >         "banscore" : 10
> >     },
> >     {
> >         "addr" : "217.9.156.80:15243",
> >         "services" : "00000001",
> >         "lastsend" : 1463529592,
> >         "lastrecv" : 1463528287,
> >         "bytessent" : 75414,
> >         "bytesrecv" : 229,
> >         "conntime" : 1463528286,
> >         "version" : 70001,
> >         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
> >         "inbound" : true,
> >         "startingheight" : 303873,
> >         "banscore" : 0
> >     },
> >     {
> >         "addr" : "217.9.156.80:2052",
> >         "services" : "00000001",
> >         "lastsend" : 1463529592,
> >         "lastrecv" : 1463529155,
> >         "bytessent" : 75353,
> >         "bytesrecv" : 174,
> >         "conntime" : 1463529154,
> >         "version" : 70001,
> >         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
> >         "inbound" : true,
> >         "startingheight" : 303874,
> >         "banscore" : 0
> >     },
> >     {
> >         "addr" : "217.9.156.80:52445",
> >         "services" : "00000001",
> >         "lastsend" : 1463529603,
> >         "lastrecv" : 1463529603,
> >         "bytessent" : 75201,
> >         "bytesrecv" : 229,
> >         "conntime" : 1463529602,
> >         "version" : 70001,
> >         "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.8.2.2/",
> >         "inbound" : true,
> >         "startingheight" : 303876,
> >         "banscore" : 0

[trannamtan]

and today what happened on YOBIT


  whales are eating the wrong food

nevertheless congratulate everyone successfully sold.



 

[com911]

Someone spent about 25btc on SIC (atm), maybe he going to resurrect the coin?

[tb78dub]

What is the TOTAL amount of coins?

[in100]

What is the TOTAL amount of coins?

Unlimited.

Now exist ~500000 SIC.