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June 23, 2013, 04:32:35 AM
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Shadowrun and bitcoin's roots

Original link: http://garzikrants.blogspot.com/2013/06/shadowrun-and-bitcoins-roots.html


Satoshi's bitcoin paper, mailing list and forum discussions list bitcoin's ancestors as ecash, hashcash, b-money and the cypherpunk movement.  I'd argue that it has its roots in staple science fiction as well.

Recently, strolling through my stacks of scifi books, some Shadowrun novels leapt out at me.  Pulp science fiction of average quality, but some of the text particularly resonated with bitcoin today.  Quoting liberally from Never Deal With A Dragon,

p121, Like many clubs, Rumplestiltskin's employed a Troll to handle the lines of hopefuls. ... They were still ten meters from the front of the line when Roe suddenly appeared.  "This will never do," she said.  Taking each one by the arm, she led them directly up to the doorman.  She twirled a shiny credstick in her right hand.  The four dark bands on the end of the cylinder marked it as certified for at least one hundred nuyen.  She tossed it to the man.  "My friends here are late for their table."

p161, She held out her personal comp to him.  He smiled in assurance that he had regained the upper hand as he slotted his credstick and made the funds transfer.  To demonstrate her trust, Hart ran a confrmation of the transfer as soon as he returned the comp.
"Your money's good."
"Good as gold, Ms. Hart."
"Better," she said hefting her comp before slipping it back into her bag.  "Gold's too heavy."


p235, She stopped at a public telecom, slotted a credstick, and punched a number.  She waited while the connections were made and a voice on the other end repeated the last four digits of the telecom code.

p217, These files must be heavily protected.  The files turned out to be just that.  It was hours before they determined that Drake had certified several credsticks through Transbank.  It seemed hardly worth the effort and new headache to achieve such a dead end.  A certified credstick was the electronic equivalent of cash.  The money could still be traced once it reentered the financial network, but there would be no record of who had received the credstick.
"Twas a small hope that he would be so careless."
"Maybe if we can find some other transactions of the same monetary value as were assigned to Drake's certified sticks, we can pick up the trail by following it from whereever Transbank sends the funds.  Sure, some of the matches will just be coincidence, but some might actually be the recipients of Drake's generosity.  If we're lucky, some of the names attached to those transactions might mean something."
After two more days of data slogging, they had eliminated likely coincidences.  That left three names.  Each one connected to at least three transactions whose amounts equalled one of Drake's credsticks.
The first, Nadia Mirin, was no surprise.  In her case, the amounts were the smallest, suitable as gifts to one's paramour.  The second name was totally unfamiliar, but the pattern of intervening transactions was interesting.  Each amount went through a series of transfers, all for the exact value of Drake's credstick.  Each thread led to a sealed account in a Denver data haven.


Bitcoin has successfully achieved that which was science fiction prior to 2009.  The electronic equivalent of cash.  The US Dollar may be the world's largest digital currency, but only bitcoin (and other crypto-currencies) may claim to be the electronic equivalent of cash.

Now... where are those credsticks we were promised?  Bitcoin Wallet on a smartphone? Trezor, perhaps?

Jeff Garzik, Bloq CEO, former bitcoin core dev team; opinions are my own.
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June 23, 2013, 08:59:46 AM
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Interesting read.  Its interesting how a lot of futuristic ideas are first conceived and expanded upon by people who have science fiction leanings, then brought to reality later by others.  Arthur C. Clarke's geostationary satellites + GPS for example.
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June 25, 2013, 01:47:19 AM
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June 25, 2013, 01:55:03 AM
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Actually it was Neal Stephenson who nailed it.  Some of his work comes as close to the concept of 'Bitcoin' as you can get, and he was writing about it in the late nineties. Namely this sort story:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Simoleon_Caper

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June 25, 2013, 03:52:20 AM
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Actually it was Neal Stephenson who nailed it.  Some of his work comes as close to the concept of 'Bitcoin' as you can get, and he was writing about it in the late nineties. Namely this sort story:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Simoleon_Caper


That's astounding. I cant believe how alike the two are. It really does surprise me how far Bitcoin ideals go back in literature.

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June 25, 2013, 09:35:53 AM
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centrally issued? that's rather like OpenCoin's XRPs then though.  Shocked

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June 25, 2013, 09:52:20 AM
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I carry around my folded up stat sheet from Shadowrun the roleplaying game.
It's one of my prized possessions. Shame I never got to play the character much. I was a troll medic tank with emphasis on magic.
Thanks for the read, op.

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June 25, 2013, 11:00:44 PM
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Very interesting, how life mimics art and vice versa...

Relatedly, there is a new Shadowrun game coming out next month published by the original creator of the tabletop game:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowrun_Returns
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