We should build a seastead

[malevolent]

What do you think will happen once a poor country which is used to wars (like both Egypt and Sudan are) sees that the territory they've sold has become rich and attractive and is rolling in money? First, there will be harassment, with the borders, with the shipping, with the trade then more and more demands and then what are you going to do if they decide to simply invade peacefully with 1 million civilians?
No, trying to create a nation near or inside an area that was part of a dispute that ended with war is suicide.

I find the idea of creating an independent community feasible and interesting, that of a nation, not so much.
There is no place for utopian dreams of independence in this world, at least not yet.

If it actually grew to be rich and attractive... that's a 'problem' that it would be nice to have. Don't put the cart before the horse. At that stage some sort diplomatic manoeuvring and/or buying protection or starting a professional army would probably become necessary.

[stompix]

Don't put the cart before the horse.

Hmm, quite the infidel  How would a crypto nation be anything other than prosperous?

At that stage some sort diplomatic manoeuvring and/or buying protection or starting a professional army would probably become necessary.

Buying your freedom and not really be free at all does not sound too good from my point of view.
It's like living as an expat in a foreign country, all is nice and well until that nation decides you're not welcomed anymore there since your former country wants you back for god knows what legal matter or cuts your pension. As for a professional army, times have changed, a real army that would have the capabilities of defending against one superior in numbers by factors of 5 or 10 would cost you more than bribing the entire congress.

Plus I don't know why but I can't picture a lot of the guys here would agree with paying taxes for a private army and even a lot less of them actually joining one, I've done my military service, no way in hell I'm going to a battlefield. Having an 417 under the bed in case some somali pirate thinks he's Long John Silver is one thing, open war is different.

A community near a somewhat stable and peaceful country is one thing, building and running a country in a hostile location is something else, but who knows, maybe I'm just growing to old for it.

[hulla]

I think British Virgin Islands, Zimbabwe and Liberland could be the best place part with sovereignty.

Yeah, the British Virgin Island would immediately part with sovereignty, I wonder what the UK thinks of this, I remember something about Falklands..
Zimbabwe? The country that turned a blind eye on white farmers getting killed and robbed just because they had more money and they were white? Imagine putting a town full of rich white guys next to this one, what will be the outcome?
Liberland, just lol!

The UK viewpoint on British Virgin Islands part with sovereignty don't count since they Virgin Island government are perform through representative democracy, parliamentary system and constitutional monarchy.
I'm aware of what you said about Zimbabwe, that's a cruel habit that will affect their future international relations.

[Ucy]

Don't put the cart before the horse.

Hmm, quite the infidel  How would a crypto nation be anything other than prosperous?

At that stage some sort diplomatic manoeuvring and/or buying protection or starting a professional army would probably become necessary.

Buying your freedom and not really be free at all does not sound too good from my point of view.
It's like living as an expat in a foreign country, all is nice and well until that nation decides you're not welcomed anymore there since your former country wants you back for god knows what legal matter or cuts your pension. As for a professional army, times have changed, a real army that would have the capabilities of defending against one superior in numbers by factors of 5 or 10 would cost you more than bribing the entire congress.

Plus I don't know why but I can't picture a lot of the guys here would agree with paying taxes for a private army and even a lot less of them actually joining one, I've done my military service, no way in hell I'm going to a battlefield. Having an 417 under the bed in case some somali pirate thinks he's Long John Silver is one thing, open war is different.

A community near a somewhat stable and peaceful country is one thing, building and running a country in a hostile location is something else, but who knows, maybe I'm just growing to old for it.

Better to invest in non-lethal weapons and a decentralized city that can be easily moved anywhere really fast to avoid destructive/violent war or conflict. Besides, I think such City/Nation will need to guarantee strong transparency in order to be allowed to operate. In my opinion, that should be part of her contract with host/neighboring nations.

[Kittygalore]

If it actually grew to be rich and attractive... that's a 'problem' that it would be nice to have. Don't put the cart before the horse. At that stage some sort diplomatic manoeuvring and/or buying protection or starting a professional army would probably become necessary.

Security of the seastead does seem concerning but in the long run, we can make this problem go away by making the seasteads a profitable economic hotspots for many countries and then we can bargain a deal that they will have some degree of privileges if they in turn protect the seastead from the possibility of attacks from pirates or other hostile forces. Small countries, don't need an army to protect itself let alone a seastead.

[lokas0506]

A defence mechanism based on drones and remotes sounds at theses times as most viable

1 to have swarms of disposable drones controlled remotely or with  preprogrammed friend or foe algorithms
2 command centre secure under ground
?dead man switch deterrent mechanisms

[Lucius]

Was that area (Liberland) even cleared of the mines that were laid during the war?
Anyhow, really bad spot, probably only something in Kosovo or Nagorno-Karabakh is worse than this.

I did not find any information that the area was mined at all, but given that some activities have taken place there in recent years, I would say that there are no mines, or no one has had the misfortune to land on one of them. When you look at what exactly it is about, then the only ones that benefit from that land are actually mosquitoes🦟


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[malevolent]

Buying your freedom and not really be free at all does not sound too good from my point of view.

Everything in the real world costs money/assets, security included, one way or another.

Security of the seastead does seem concerning but in the long run, we can make this problem go away by making the seasteads a profitable economic hotspots for many countries and then we can bargain a deal that they will have some degree of privileges if they in turn protect the seastead from the possibility of attacks from pirates or other hostile forces. Small countries, don't need an army to protect itself let alone a seastead.

Gambling ships are a thing, seems like the ideal business for a seastead.

[MickGhee]

"The bitcoin price is amazingly high"

And so am i...

Seriously though,  you think it's high now wait until December

[Elwar]

I looked into what it takes to actually buy a country.

What it basically boils down to is buying up the nation's debt or as much of it as possible, funding certain candidates and then leveraging that debt to get what you want from the politicians in charge. A big part of it being the relief of some debt in exchange for some policy changes you may want.

So some small country like Nicaragua could be bought, then you have them pass pro-liberty policies in exchange for restructuring their debt. Pass enough pro-liberty policies and the whole system goes toward freedom and they have no way of stopping it.

Similar to how China is making countries become communist through similar means.