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November 18, 2017, 09:07:01 PM
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Bitcoins (BTC) has a maximum supply of 21 million coins. Lets say as some people predict on a future date  a Bitcoin hits USD $1,000,000. During this scenario, is there any chance that someone can change the software program that restricts the supply of Bitcoins to mine more coins. Can someone give technical details if possible.

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November 18, 2017, 11:57:33 PM
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is there any chance that someone can change the software program that restricts the supply of Bitcoins to mine more coins.
Changing the block-generation reward to allow more than an asymptotic limit of 21 million coins would require a hard fork.  It would be a contentious hard fork, because many people strongly believe that the original plan should not be changed to dilute existing coins.

Lets say as some people predict on a future date a Bitcoin hits USD $1,000,000.
Then the smallest unit of bitcoin (1 satoshi) would be worth $0.01.  It is possible to hard-fork Bitcoin to allow further subdivisions; this would be far less controversial than increasing the maximum coin supply.
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November 19, 2017, 12:01:45 AM
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Bitcoins (BTC) has a maximum supply of 21 million coins. Lets say as some people predict on a future date  a Bitcoin hits USD $1,000,000. During this scenario, is there any chance that someone can change the software program that restricts the supply of Bitcoins to mine more coins. Can someone give technical details if possible.

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It would require a fork, which is something that anyone can do but no-one has to use if they don't want to. This is the same thing for Bitcoin; people can make forks which change the supply from 21m to 21 trillion Bitcoins, but it doesn't mean that anyone has to actually use whatever is on that blockchain, and they won't be able to use those extra coins unless there is someone that they can send the Bitcoin to.

It is impossible to change the supply without the community knowing, essentially. And the markets would be able to react accordingly, such as crashing because the limited supply no longer exists.
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November 19, 2017, 04:33:30 AM
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anything about bitcoin can change. it is just code that you can change to do something else. change the cap for example. but the trick is to change something without breaking the whole system, in other words have a solid reason for that change not just a guess about possible price. and also to get the whole system to agree to it so that the hard fork required for that change is accepted as bitcoin not just a useless altcoin.

you can look at all these recent altcoins: the controversial forks of bitcoin such as bitcoin cash, bitcoin gold, bitcoin silver, bitcre,... they have proven that you can change anything but when you don't have the support, you are  creating an altcoin that will die slowly because of lack of interest.

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November 19, 2017, 04:41:42 AM
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Just like how you can modify a software programme the same way you can modify bitcoins its not a great deal.
We have software updates like android updates..and stuff they all do the same...
Changing the bitcoin system will need... Consent of every authority related with bitcoins especially the creators and offcourse the public support because bitcoins is genuinely run by the public.
Thus I don't think that they will (the people) agree tp change Bitcoins maximum supply because in the future they can be benifited from it a lot !
But yes its possible

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November 19, 2017, 04:48:03 AM
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The effect is the same as fiat money. If you observe, when our fiat money has increased supply the value of it becomes lesser or lower but when the supply it cut off or there is a maximum supply then its value has a lot of possibilities to increase.

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November 19, 2017, 04:48:32 AM
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There would be a problem when the supply of bitcoin would increase same as fiat money. The problem would be, if they increase the supply or production of bitcoins, the value will decrease and when they decrease the supply of bitcoin the value would increase. The effect is the sameto fiat money.
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November 22, 2017, 02:47:13 PM
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Many here say it would require a hard fork "and that many don't want to see that" but perhaps at some point it will be the condition for Bitcoin to survive.
Not saying right now, but in one or two years.
A good product has to evolve and adapt to current markets, this is true for any product and any industry, why would it not be the case for Bitcoin?
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November 22, 2017, 02:53:05 PM
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Maybe it can be change and increase the supply of bitcoin but that's only possible if they can go over to the software of bitcoin made by its developer but I don't think it can be reiterate that easy because if that is easy in the previous years someone must already try doing that instead preparing hard fork and offering alternative coins to divert the increasing market and demand for bitcoin
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November 22, 2017, 02:57:05 PM
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i'm thinking what would happen if at some point devs will decide to increase the BTC cap, not with another fork but BTC itself.. what would happen? how the community will reach to this? It can be an interesting point of discussion and i don't know how it can affect the current market community.
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November 22, 2017, 03:02:38 PM
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This number was hardcoded by satoshi himself, and whoever wants to participate on the network should accept it to be part of it, that can actually be worked out, with BIP process. And this definitely a hard fork, and won't achieve sufficient consensus for it. If they force it they'll make an alt.
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November 23, 2017, 08:14:59 PM
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The supply of bitcoins is fixed and only 21 million bitcoins
can be mined with no additional increase in supply can be
made. It can be changed but then it will lead to a hard fork
which won't be bitcoin.

If the supply of bitcoin could be changed, then it would defeat
its purpose and basically be just like fiat. It has a fixed supply
just like gold which makes it lucrative.

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November 23, 2017, 08:17:22 PM
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Bitcoins (BTC) has a maximum supply of 21 million coins. Lets say as some people predict on a future date  a Bitcoin hits USD $1,000,000. During this scenario, is there any chance that someone can change the software program that restricts the supply of Bitcoins to mine more coins. Can someone give technical details if possible.

Thank you!

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According to official data, it is impossible to change the number of bitcoins, but we are all people and understand that if we could create bitcoins, then we can add more bitcoins to them. All this is decided by high-ranking managers of the crypto-currency world.
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November 23, 2017, 09:28:08 PM
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Lets say as some people predict on a future date a Bitcoin hits USD $1,000,000.
Then the smallest unit of bitcoin (1 satoshi) would be worth $0.01.  It is possible to hard-fork Bitcoin to allow further subdivisions; this would be far less controversial than increasing the maximum coin supply.
personally, id support this solution far more than raising the coin cap; it might get to be a headache counting the decimal places and such, but the 21 million cap was made so curb inflation and keep a stable amount in circulation. now, in macroeconomics, currency must be injected and taken out of circulation on a regular basis to accommodate for economic trends, but i think this would lead to a bitcoin bubble. now, i would accept an increase in the coin cap, if the coin reward was adjusted proportionately to match, effectively capping the market at a similar point in time, but this would also lead to the devaluation of the current coins in circulation; not much for that idea.

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November 23, 2017, 09:52:55 PM
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Far as i know there is nothing that can make bitcoin change, that is why it is having a lot of forks, because they really want to change bitcoin, but they have to do it indirectly.
The supply can not be changed, and that is maybe the main the reason of why bitcoin is being so expensive nowadays, $8300 per each bitcoin because the supply is very low compared to other cryptos (most of them have at least 50millions of coins in circulation)
But no, there is no way that there could be more forks, and if bitcoin touches 1 million dollars, 1mbtc is going to be worth $1000.

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November 23, 2017, 09:53:02 PM
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Well it's already made: after the hard-coded limit of 21 million is reached/mined completely, no one can create any more new coins. The coins in the circulation are the only ones that can be traded and will be traded in the coming years. It can be changed if the whole community agrees; if not, it stays the same. I'm inclined to think that this will not be changed since that will defeat the purpose of bitcoin being deflationary. Most devs would just compete about bitcoin being the king of microtransactions, scaling, fees etc. etc. and I don't even think that they'll do something about the 21 million limit. Not at least at these times.
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November 23, 2017, 09:59:03 PM
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Why do you want to have more supply? it is a waste of time, and you are going to have more coins, but the same amount of money if it really happen, only if we assume that the total supply is going to be increased, but it is never going to happen because bitcoin has already been created and the code can not be changed.

That is the main purpose of those shitty forks, they all were trying to fix some things over bitcoin, and they were trying to increase the supply of it, that is why they have their own supply and they gave us 1:1 of our bitcoin balance, because they want us to have more coins, but with the same amount of money (but the prices of those forked coins has been increasing during the last time)

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November 24, 2017, 11:19:05 AM
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For the base of the foundation of bitcoin to be changed, it will be very difficult or impossible. Instead of bitcoin to change its total supply, then there will be a continuous hard fork of bitcoin, for new coins to come up.
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November 24, 2017, 11:30:30 AM
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It is possible to change the maximum supply of bitcoin but this can lead to inflation that is why bitcoin have a limited supply. We do not even have any need of much supply.
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November 24, 2017, 11:30:59 AM
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Yeah it can, But i'm pretty sure it will just be forked instead.
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