Is selling malware against the rules of bitcointalk?

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=243214.msg2582801#new

(eg. bitcoin.czUp to 5 pools configuration. If you get banned from a mining pool, your slaves will mine on the other pool worker you will provide me (up to 5 different pools.
It is resilient, will start automatically on every startup and will be installed in a non-visible directory of the victim's PC, after a pc is infected only with format the victim will be able to remove it
Fully FUD.
This miner is fully FUD and crypted by me, which will remail fud for a long time(the AVs wont detect it) which means that you can start spreading asap, and don't pay 100$ or more for crypters

Also I can combine the miner with another exe file of your choice(eg. a crack or a keygen), which will help you spread it easier. I would recommend spreading with torrents, as crack for games.

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[escrow.ms]

Shouldn't be allowed here, infecting someone's pc is a crime.

[3btc]

Ban would be appropriate.

There are enough trading places but bitcointalk doesn't need such kind of attention.

[r3wt]

Ban would be appropriate.

There are enough trading places but bitcointalk doesn't need such kind of attention.

i second this.

[Birdy]

It will damage Bitcoins image, if the biggest Bitcoin forum allows advertisement for malware.
Ban is appropiate.

[John (John K.)]

*John wakes from hibernation*
Topic trashed.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Proof that it is illegal, tyvm. Oh wait, that's your opinion.

[r3wt]

Shouldn't be allowed here, infecting someone's pc is a crime.

This board commits all sorts of crimes like allowing tradfortress to promote his illegal unregisered bank, why start following the law now? (That would be very different).

well technically, his business isn't illegal. up until the recent fincen ruling, he was operating in a legal gray area. due to the latest ruling that bitcoin is governed under fincen, he will have 180 days to register with fincen. however in my opinion there may be additional requirements for his particular business model since it could fall under investment laws. it may be end up being simpler in the long run for him to shut off business in the US and relocate elsewhere. this is all opinion with exception of the statement about fincen. he will for sure have to register with fincen, which isn't a damning edict at all. in fact, he's probably already taken care of it.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Shouldn't be allowed here, infecting someone's pc is a crime.

This board commits all sorts of crimes like allowing tradfortress to promote his illegal unregisered bank, why start following the law now? (That would be very different).

well technically, his business isn't illegal. up until the recent fincen ruling, he was operating in a legal gray area. due to the latest ruling that bitcoin is governed under fincen, he will have 180 days to register with fincen. however in my opinion there may be additional requirements for his particular business model since it could fall under investment laws. it may be end up being simpler in the long run for him to shut off business in the US and relocate elsewhere. this is all opinion with exception of the statement about fincen. he will for sure have to register with fincen, which isn't a damning edict at all. in fact, he's probably already taken care of it.

What have you been reading?

An exchanger is a person engaged as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for real currency, funds, or other virtual currency. An administrator is a person engaged as a business in issuing (putting into circulation) a virtual currency, and who has the authority to redeem (to withdraw from circulation) such virtual currency.

FinCEN’s guidance explains that administrators or exchangers of virtual currencies have registration requirements and a broad range of AML program, recordkeeping, and reporting responsibilities.

CoinLenders is not an exchanger nor administrator.

[r3wt]

Shouldn't be allowed here, infecting someone's pc is a crime.

This board commits all sorts of crimes like allowing tradfortress to promote his illegal unregisered bank, why start following the law now? (That would be very different).

well technically, his business isn't illegal. up until the recent fincen ruling, he was operating in a legal gray area. due to the latest ruling that bitcoin is governed under fincen, he will have 180 days to register with fincen. however in my opinion there may be additional requirements for his particular business model since it could fall under investment laws. it may be end up being simpler in the long run for him to shut off business in the US and relocate elsewhere. this is all opinion with exception of the statement about fincen. he will for sure have to register with fincen, which isn't a damning edict at all. in fact, he's probably already taken care of it.

What have you been reading?

An exchanger is a person engaged as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for real currency, funds, or other virtual currency. An administrator is a person engaged as a business in issuing (putting into circulation) a virtual currency, and who has the authority to redeem (to withdraw from circulation) such virtual currency.

FinCEN’s guidance explains that administrators or exchangers of virtual currencies have registration requirements and a broad range of AML program, recordkeeping, and reporting responsibilities.

CoinLenders is not an exchanger nor administrator.

i guess you missed the motion classifying bitcoin as a currency in the United States, making it subject to the same banking laws as any other bank. Additionally, the FTC and FDIC will state their position on the matter in the coming months. like i said, you will still have to register with FINCEN

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Link? The most recent one I saw was Jun 13th, while the March one specially said Bitcoin is not a currency under BSA.

I don't need to register with FinCEN in any case, I can just block US IPs. The backend is not in the US. I'm sure passthroughs will turn up on bitfunder/btct.co if I do that anyways.

[r3wt]

Link?

I don't need to register with FinCEN, I can just block US IPs. I'm sure passthroughs will turn up on bitfunder/btct.co if I do that anyways.

eh no, i'm not gonna dig up a link for it. its a moot point if you're just gonna IP BAN the US users. I figured you would take that route

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Link?

I don't need to register with FinCEN, I can just block US IPs. I'm sure passthroughs will turn up on bitfunder/btct.co if I do that anyways.

eh no, i'm not gonna dig up a link for it. its a moot point if you're just gonna IP BAN the US users. I figured you would take that route

Is this what you're talking about? http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/speech/pdf/20130613.pdf

[r3wt]

Link?

I don't need to register with FinCEN, I can just block US IPs. I'm sure passthroughs will turn up on bitfunder/btct.co if I do that anyways.

eh no, i'm not gonna dig up a link for it. its a moot point if you're just gonna IP BAN the US users. I figured you would take that route

Is this what you're talking about? http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/speech/pdf/20130613.pdf

no, but after reading that, i will say you are still in the gray area of the law based on the poor language chosen in the brief. i think the user help.org had some information as to what actually constitutes a financial institution. by the very definition of the law, coinlenders is a financial institution and it would be hard to prove it isn't based upon the latest edict and the ones that are coming from the FDIC and FTC.

[Book]

There are parts of bitcoin that are a gray area, but still it's not a cyber-crime forum and allowing selling blatant software for crime is a step in the right direction of turning the trading section into a blackmarket. Next people will be trying to sell guns and drugs.

[razorfishsl]

It will damage Bitcoins image, if the biggest Bitcoin forum allows advertisement for malware.
Ban is appropiate.

And you think money laundering, drug dealing,  mining scammers..etc are what?
poster boys for a good clean image......

[Birdy]

It will damage Bitcoins image, if the biggest Bitcoin forum allows advertisement for malware.
Ban is appropiate.

And you think money laundering, drug dealing,  mining scammers..etc are what?
poster boys for a good clean image......

No, did I state that anywhere?
Your statement being what?

[Book]

It will damage Bitcoins image, if the biggest Bitcoin forum allows advertisement for malware.
Ban is appropiate.

And you think money laundering, drug dealing,  mining scammers..etc are what?
poster boys for a good clean image......

People don't do that on this forum. Mining scamming maybe but not the rest.