fcmatt
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June 30, 2011, 02:18:51 AM |
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just what are the odds that someone knew what to look for when dropbox had their technical issue? honestly.. unless there was some way to use google to identify wallet files on dropbox's website OR someone knew it was there..
i find it highly doubtful that a person on the internet just happened to come upon that file on dropbox and had the insight to brute force the password.. and then transfer the bitcoins. heck.. just finding a person on the internet who even cares about bitcoins is a challenge let alone finding a wallet file during a few hour period.
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June 30, 2011, 02:29:11 AM |
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OK, so your Mtgox and Drop box were compromised... buy you say: "encrypted disk image to store the wallet" <--Was that PassWord the same too? and then you say: "zipped the wallet file with a long password" So, you backup your wallet to Dropbox that could have been compromised, in a Encrypted .DMG that might have had the same password, that was Zipped with a long PW <--- BTW Zipped PW is by far full-proof... I am thinking it is more likely your computer is compromised.... better check that also...
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cmh
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June 30, 2011, 02:31:33 AM |
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just what are the odds that someone knew what to look for when dropbox had their technical issue?
I'd say they are pretty good. Do you think none of the programmers working at dropbox know about bitcoin?... "Hey guys, I just published that password code, see you after lunch!" ... (quick trip to starbucks to download a few wallet.dat files) ... "hey guys, I found a problem with the password code... oops!"
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June 30, 2011, 03:25:35 AM |
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I'd say they are pretty good. Do you think none of the programmers working at dropbox know about bitcoin?... "Hey guys, I just published that password code, see you after lunch!" ... (quick trip to starbucks to download a few wallet.dat files) ... "hey guys, I found a problem with the password code... oops!"
Dropbox staff can access your files directly, no need to introduce a password bug.
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finnthecelt
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June 30, 2011, 03:42:05 AM |
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And no more messages from nakowa?
I'm telling you.....again my theory....
Everytime a "BTC stolen" story gets bumped to the bottom of the page or off the page a new one pops up. Legit? I don't know.
But it's like clock work. It's like the troll brigade just wants that front page of threads to be tainted with scandal. I don't buy it. Or I should say, I'm very skeptical.
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June 30, 2011, 03:58:12 AM Last edit: June 30, 2011, 04:08:53 AM by nakowa |
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And no more messages from nakowa?
I'm telling you.....again my theory....
Everytime a "BTC stolen" story gets bumped to the bottom of the page or off the page a new one pops up. Legit? I don't know.
But it's like clock work. It's like the troll brigade just wants that front page of threads to be tainted with scandal. I don't buy it. Or I should say, I'm very skeptical.
What do you have in mind? I updated some info by editing the original post. You're not skeptical, you are dark. Don't you see the blockexplorer link I've post? I lost all my BTC. However, do you think I should cry for it everyday? In fact, I'm busy on updating my BitcoinX (An AutoIt Shell for the official bitcoin client for windows. ) http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23791Because I have to work on a virtual machine - I'm using a Macbook air, I had no time to back here for crying...
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June 30, 2011, 04:13:52 AM |
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And no more messages from nakowa?
I'm telling you.....again my theory....
Everytime a "BTC stolen" story gets bumped to the bottom of the page or off the page a new one pops up. Legit? I don't know.
But it's like clock work. It's like the troll brigade just wants that front page of threads to be tainted with scandal. I don't buy it. Or I should say, I'm very skeptical.
What do you have in mind? I updated some info by editing the original post. You're not skeptical, you are dark. Don't you see the blockexplorer link I've post? I lost all my BTC. However, do you think I should cry for it everyday? In fact, I'm busy on updating my BitcoinX (An AutoIt Shell for the official bitcoin client for windows. ) http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23791Because I have to working on a virtual machine - I'm using a Macbook air, I had no time to back here for crying... Do you think you could answer the additional questions people have so we could continue in trying to figure out how you were hacked? It doesn't help your case that right now you are doing what a lot of other "I was hacked" posters do when pushed for more details the "I was hacked" -- being evasive. (by not providing the info being requested by those trying to help you out)
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June 30, 2011, 04:20:23 AM |
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And no more messages from nakowa?
I'm telling you.....again my theory....
Everytime a "BTC stolen" story gets bumped to the bottom of the page or off the page a new one pops up. Legit? I don't know.
But it's like clock work. It's like the troll brigade just wants that front page of threads to be tainted with scandal. I don't buy it. Or I should say, I'm very skeptical.
I'm not normally one to go for conspiracy theory type stuff, but the point you raise is a possibility that can't be ruled out at the moment. It's suspicious how these guys often ask for money, and almost never provide enough info to troubleshoot. When prodded for more details they suddenly post a message with what they believe to be the loophole by which they were hacked, but without a trail of evidence to make it plausible enough to stop troubleshooting/investigating. If I were hacked I know I'd be a lot more systematic about wanting to find out exactly what went wrong, and I'd be a lot more cooperative with the people on the message boards who were trying to help me investigate what happened. They should just all be pushed into a separate forum and urged to stick to a template if they want to get any help. Yet another case for having a bitcoin forum with better moderation.
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June 30, 2011, 05:02:53 AM |
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Have you run any namecoin binaries?
Can you elaborate on why running namecoin binaries in general (and not just any binary) is risky? A few other people claiming to be hacked that I've tried to hammed detail out of (it is like pulling teeth, I might buy the conspiracy), mentioned using a namecoin binary.
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June 30, 2011, 07:12:27 AM |
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There is a new rootkit MBR virus, karpersky is almost "give up" (I hope they don't, keep it up guys!) Infected approx 4.5million, this virus is on your harddrive MBR, it's almost impossible to detect, In my personal oppinion, this kind of viruse cannot be detected & removed with "standard procedure". I hope you guys are not get invected with these virus. It's P2P type of virus. Check it out : http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9218034/Massive_botnet_indestructible_say_researchers?taxonomyId=82&pageNumber=1
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June 30, 2011, 08:03:28 AM |
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useful article, cept it doesn't tell you how to detect it lol
The advice seems to be - nuke your hard drive and reinstall!
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June 30, 2011, 08:11:07 AM |
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Here is an utility that I recommend people use to "nuke" their HD: http://www.dban.org/It is free software btw.
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theowalpott
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June 30, 2011, 09:05:31 AM |
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dban is a bit overkill if you just want to wipe the MBR and destroy data on a drive. A single zero pass would be fine Takes a hell of a lot less time!
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allinvain
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June 30, 2011, 01:28:18 PM |
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dban is a bit overkill if you just want to wipe the MBR and destroy data on a drive. A single zero pass would be fine Takes a hell of a lot less time! It does have that option. I used the so called "least secure" option of a zero pass on a 100 gb HD and it took 2 hours max. Some of the erase options dban offers are insane.
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finnthecelt
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June 30, 2011, 02:39:14 PM |
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And no more messages from nakowa?
I'm telling you.....again my theory....
Everytime a "BTC stolen" story gets bumped to the bottom of the page or off the page a new one pops up. Legit? I don't know.
But it's like clock work. It's like the troll brigade just wants that front page of threads to be tainted with scandal. I don't buy it. Or I should say, I'm very skeptical.
What do you have in mind? I updated some info by editing the original post. You're not skeptical, you are dark. Don't you see the blockexplorer link I've post? I lost all my BTC. However, do you think I should cry for it everyday? In fact, I'm busy on updating my BitcoinX (An AutoIt Shell for the official bitcoin client for windows. ) http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23791Because I have to work on a virtual machine - I'm using a Macbook air, I had no time to back here for crying... Well obviously after you had your good cry you were still reading the board!! Your only statement is against me and you call me "dark" (whatever that means) for being skeptical and pointing out a trend. I'm not calling you a liar. People are getting robbed and I sympathize. I was compromised as well within three days of getting into BTC but I think someone was punishing me for something stupid I did. We all know it's happening. Nonetheless, I'm skeptical. I and a few others exposed an obvious scam right on the board here so there are reports like yours that are false. If you're going to bring it to the board back up your claim. Otherwise you are just spreading fear and pessimism and in my world that would be considered "dark".
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June 30, 2011, 03:03:55 PM |
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Dropbox didn't require a login password for a while a couple weeks ago. Anyone storing a wallet file on dropbox should've promptly transferred the bitcoins to a new wallet file.
Are you serious? They don't run automated tests on something critical like authentication? That's retarded.
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theowalpott
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June 30, 2011, 03:11:29 PM |
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dban is a bit overkill if you just want to wipe the MBR and destroy data on a drive. A single zero pass would be fine Takes a hell of a lot less time! It does have that option. I used the so called "least secure" option of a zero pass on a 100 gb HD and it took 2 hours max. Some of the erase options dban offers are insane. Just use a linux liveCD and run: DISCLAIMER: DO NOT "test" THESE COMMANDS ON A SYSTEM YOU DON'T WANT TO DESTROY!!!!!dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX where X is the device Did this to a 1TB drive not long ago, took maybe 4 hours... maybe a little more. You could also do a (psuedo)random data write with dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda Since we were talking about these rootkit viruses within the MBR.. If you just wanted to kill the MBR: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1 and to remove both the MBR and the partition table (which you'd have to rebuild if you wanted to use the partitions again!): dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1 DISCLAIMER: DO NOT "test" THESE COMMANDS ON A SYSTEM YOU DON'T WANT TO DESTROY!!!!!I'd imagine these rootkits would get back into the MBR as soon as windows boots again, so I don't think this would fix it without at least killing the processes/services which it depends on in windows. Interesting virus.. very nasty I'm gonna do some checking on all my systems. Guess its perfectly possible that poeple are losing their wallets to this rootkit/botnet - they could easily send a command to the infected machines to search for wallet.dat and send email/send it somewhere. Obviously I'm just guessing! But AFAIK you could end up infected just by visiting the wrong website :/
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June 30, 2011, 10:02:56 PM |
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Is there any way to detect this virus?
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Capitan
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June 30, 2011, 10:32:49 PM |
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Man. Before two weeks ago I wasn't that concerned about security. This forum has made me super paranoid about network and PC security. Thanks a lot, guys.
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