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November 23, 2017, 01:43:15 PM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.

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November 23, 2017, 01:47:35 PM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.



I agree that more and more jobs are going to get replaced by machines ata faster rate than useful jobs could be created, but I really doubt a police officer, lawyer or doctor could be able to get replaced by a machine in 50 years, certainly not in 2050...

For you to have a fully replaceable police officer, the robot would need to be a literal terminator, capable of moving across every possible obstacle, asking questions, shooting, driving... anything that a police officer does on their career. It is simply impossible to come up with such a machine anytime soon, and 50 is soon. Maybe try again in year 3000.
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November 23, 2017, 01:59:19 PM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.


You seem to read too many fiction novels about the future LOL. I do not think in the future machines will completely replace people. If that happens, machines can be big bosses and we will be slaves.
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November 23, 2017, 01:59:50 PM
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None the less, this scares the hell out of me.

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November 23, 2017, 03:21:41 PM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
That's right, the innovation and the trend of the robotics industry are growing yearly, they tend to improve the existing one or find a common problem then deploy their solutions using the machines that they've invented to solve the issue and make the living easier and comfortable. take this machines for example that is being used for daily lives like iRobot Roomba 980 (used as a vacuum cleaner) and Robomow RS630 (Robotic lawn mower) the shifting is slowly overtaking the simple chores.

There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.
There's still a lot of loopholes for using such devices to what extent that they've programmed for, there's always a limitation for their task given by the situation and the changes that the machine cannot adapt to function. 50 years is still early for this machines to achieve that state but we can't disregard the book that is mentioned don't just fully rely on that.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.
But robots can't work with a conscience, even super coded algorithms can't fully adapt to different situations and there is no assurance that they will do the right judgment.
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November 23, 2017, 04:50:29 PM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.


Machines are replacing people that is correct, but it is going to be impossible for them to do every single thing that a human can, at least not now and not even in the future, besides we have used machines to enhance our own performance so unless a machine is that much better than us then the future you are predicting is not going to happen since a human plus a machine is a better option than just a robot.
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November 23, 2017, 04:55:46 PM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.



Yeah surely but they can’t replace the human completely. I mean when it will come to making moves, operations or thinking about something then it won’t be limiting factor for robots at all and I agree on it completely. But here is huge difference between robots and us, we can reproduce the human being but not robots can’t and they will never ever do that no matter what how giant leaps we take to develop these machines.

Reminds me all the judgment day and stuff where the machine or smart algorithm decides the fate of humanity by killing it, because it think that we are destroying the world and this is why they can just destroy but can’t reproduce.

What I mean by that? Well it’s just algorithm and but with limits and lots of limits.
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November 23, 2017, 06:58:46 PM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.



Police officers and doctors require a level of dexterity that robots cannot replicate, and doctors, lawyers and police officers require a level of conscious decision making that is unlikely for computers to be able to replicate. Lawyers create arguments based on abstract concepts, so even if a computer can learn legal precedent, it doesn't seem likely they can adapt and create novel legal arguments required to inform new areas of the law. Much of the law in the US is determined by case law, not legislative law, so it's just not likely robots will ever acquire the ability or be granted the authority to have input on such crucial items. If robots could learn to be a suitable lawyer, doctor or police officer, we would be living in a world where we are subservient to robots.
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November 23, 2017, 06:59:06 PM
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Protocols, nothing else.

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the world, and lose his own soul?
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November 23, 2017, 07:31:14 PM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.



Stop with all this robot stuff how about we enjoy our lives as they are now for the time being? Ya we all know robots will be integrated and transform the way we live our lives in the near future here, please lets enjoy now! Smiley

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November 23, 2017, 07:40:31 PM
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A robot can never replace humans. It is not possible. The robot can only perform mechanical work, but the algorithm of its work must be created by man. I believe that robots will replace people to carry out all physical work but intellectual work will only be performed people.
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November 23, 2017, 11:13:11 PM
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There are studies which claim 50% of current jobs are vulnerable to automation. The potential for mechanizing jobs is debatable as are the implications. There are many indirect points of interest such as the end result of replacing humans who pay taxes with robots who do not.

Artificial intelligence is a hot topic at the moment with considerable myths and hysteria surrounding it. There are also political angles which could be taken into account in terms of military drones and robotic vehicles centralizing military power under a single authority. The survival of republics may depend upon decentralized power in the form of congress, senate and different branches of legislative power. Drones have a net effect of centralizing this power in a way which could empower totalitarianism.

It is possible that artificial intelligence is an incorrect term to describe the recent uptick in automated software. Many of the AI utilized in games like chess or go are brute force machines which attempt to calculate every possible scenario. There is a question as to whether a machine which brute forces every possible combination can be considered "intelligent".

Many of the gains in the AI industry have come from moore's law and the number of transistors etched in a silicon chip roughly doubling every 24 months. There is a considerable question mark as to whether a machine which utilizes brute force logic could ever fulfill the job of a police officer, fireman or role which requires considerably more critical thought and computational power than a simple game of chess.
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November 24, 2017, 02:44:32 AM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.



I agree that more and more jobs are going to get replaced by machines ata faster rate than useful jobs could be created, but I really doubt a police officer, lawyer or doctor could be able to get replaced by a machine in 50 years, certainly not in 2050...

For you to have a fully replaceable police officer, the robot would need to be a literal terminator, capable of moving across every possible obstacle, asking questions, shooting, driving... anything that a police officer does on their career. It is simply impossible to come up with such a machine anytime soon, and 50 is soon. Maybe try again in year 3000.

Yes if it happens robots can't replace every job that humans can do. Even if algorithms can help them on identifying what is right and what is not the decision that they will have will still not be the same. They don't have a heart to consider.
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November 24, 2017, 03:00:41 AM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.


If this happens I wonder what will we do? Or will robots replace us completely? And then we will begin to fade.
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November 24, 2017, 04:03:53 AM
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Robots are already used now a days in factory productions automation machine can already considered as robots but these machines still need human interventions. Imagine that if a production machine needs a human to manage it how much more if a machine needs to do more crucial tasks like those tasks that police and doctors do.

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November 27, 2017, 02:55:31 PM
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Thats quite weird that nearly everybody doesnt believe in that.

But just to give you a short impression about how this could work out.

All our judgments and feelings are results of previous inputs. If you had a bad experience with dogs you will feel afraid of dogs doesnt matter if you do not want to be afraid.

That mean, if you could teach a robot to judge about a person if he is guilty he would check several things like blood presure, if he is sweating the way he speaks etc. We already use mechanics that to so. Why should it not be possible to program an algorithm that combine all these things and identify if someone is telling the truth or not.

Same for doctors. You will answer several questions and to some tests like checking the blood etc. after that the algorithm will diagnose what you will have.

Remember that the computer / robot will combine every single diagnose around the world and will the light years ahead of a single medic.

Read the book homo sapiens and you will understand. Thats an awesome book and no its not scienes fiction.
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November 27, 2017, 03:13:31 PM
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Even now there is a program that automates trading, it amazing how artificial intelligence had evolved from past. I am starting to get a sense why many famous people like Elon Musk, Stephen Hawking had a dramatically concerns about artificial intelligence as a threat to humanity.
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November 27, 2017, 03:32:32 PM
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iam pretty sure that you can teach a machine better than a human. Just think about the network and the fast recognition time. As well it will never miss something nor it will remember something wrong or only detail of it.

One of the key arguments of this thesis is that we are too sepcialist in what we are doing. We are not all-rounder anymore.
That makes us week. A robot or computer could replace us because the tasked would be simple instead of doing several different things.
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November 27, 2017, 03:47:06 PM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.



Stop with all this robot stuff how about we enjoy our lives as they are now for the time being? Ya we all know robots will be integrated and transform the way we live our lives in the near future here, please lets enjoy now! Smiley
I get your point. You are worried to yourself and all other people who is living now. Enjoying life because if it happens that robot replace humans, it will still be in the future. Yeah you are right. Just enjoy the life we are living now. But, are you not worried about your son and daughter? . Or even your grandchilds because surely they will encounters so many robots in the near future. Sometimes. Lend some time to think about these things.

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November 27, 2017, 04:00:47 PM
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We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.


The computer modernization and the automation that is implementing throughout the businesses are one of the proofs that modern machines will innovate our daily lives in no time, there are a lot of inventions in particular for the daily living but still, the prototypes and improvements must implement.

iam pretty sure that you can teach a machine better than a human. Just think about the network and the fast recognition time. As well it will never miss something nor it will remember something wrong or only detail of it.
Im agreeing with this statement, people tend to have a difference in every aspect, but a machine can make a copy of itself the same traits, the same features and uses, it is much easier to control and teach robots, just execute a programming code for it then the machine will act no matter what is the command, no refuses.

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